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Re: George R. R. Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire (1996 - ?)
« Reply #375 on: Apr 02, 2012, 11:52:50 PM »
The lists are not realistic. They are super-realistic. People are just not that observant. They are very stylistic. and that's fine... but 2.5 books in, i just stopped caring.

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« Reply #376 on: Apr 03, 2012, 12:16:13 AM »
The lists are not realistic. They are super-realistic. People are just not that observant. They are very stylistic. and that's fine... but 2.5 books in, i just stopped caring.

I don't even remeber the lists.

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« Reply #377 on: Apr 03, 2012, 10:01:40 AM »
The lists are not realistic. They are super-realistic. People are just not that observant. They are very stylistic. and that's fine... but 2.5 books in, i just stopped caring.
I don't remember them from the first 4 books which I read years ago.  Now I'm listening to the 5th and its really getting annoying. 

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Re: George R. R. Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire (1996 - ?)
« Reply #378 on: Apr 03, 2012, 04:03:49 PM »
Reading it instead of listening to it is a lot easier.

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Re: George R. R. Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire (1996 - ?)
« Reply #379 on: Apr 03, 2012, 04:23:17 PM »
Reading it instead of listening to it is a lot easier.

I would prefer to read it, but the time I have for reading is close to 0. But I have plenty of time to listen while I do other mundane things like driving.

I do not know if there are several audios, but I am enjoying the voice of the guy talking. At first it was hard understand, but I got used to it quickly, and I like how diverse is his character impressions.

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« Reply #380 on: Apr 03, 2012, 05:29:45 PM »
You know what I like most about his books?  The names.  They are all pretty simple, a lot of fantasy uses names that I end up reading as "the first letter followed by a the number of syllables" instead of a name.  Nope, GRR is all Robs and Theons. 

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« Reply #381 on: Apr 03, 2012, 05:42:19 PM »
Reading it instead of listening to it is a lot easier.

I would prefer to read it, but the time I have for reading is close to 0. But I have plenty of time to listen while I do other mundane things like driving.

I do not know if there are several audios, but I am enjoying the voice of the guy talking. At first it was hard understand, but I got used to it quickly, and I like how diverse is his character impressions.

Same, though instead of driving, it's blocking out the person in the next workstation and their inane chatter.
I do find that it's easy to miss details when multitasking.

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Re: George R. R. Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire (1996 - ?)
« Reply #382 on: Apr 04, 2012, 03:40:53 AM »
Reading it instead of listening to it is a lot easier.

I do not know if there are several audios, but I am enjoying the voice of the guy talking. At first it was hard understand, but I got used to it quickly, and I like how diverse is his character impressions.

One of the books is read by another guy, which is pretty damn annoying as he pronounces names differently.
There's, another example. See, here I'm now sitting by myself, uh, er, talking to myself. That's, that's chaos.

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« Reply #383 on: Apr 04, 2012, 09:27:34 AM »
You know what I like most about his books?  The names.  They are all pretty simple, a lot of fantasy uses names that I end up reading as "the first letter followed by a the number of syllables" instead of a name.  Nope, GRR is all Robs and Theons.
Then you get fantasy books like The Sword of Truth where you have heroes named Richard. 

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Re: George R. R. Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire (1996 - ?)
« Reply #384 on: Apr 04, 2012, 05:27:39 PM »
I do like the simple names. At the very least, it does help to keep them straight. Except that there are repeats (as you would find in real life) so there goes some advantage. Lord Walder Frey's brood is an example of this. I think GRRM included the family as a self-aware sort of joke. To counter the rest of the bloody, black series.

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« Reply #385 on: Apr 04, 2012, 06:06:23 PM »
You know what I like most about his books?  The names.  They are all pretty simple, a lot of fantasy uses names that I end up reading as "the first letter followed by a the number of syllables" instead of a name.  Nope, GRR is all Robs and Theons.
Then you get fantasy books like The Sword of Truth where you have heroes named Richard.
Sure, but it would suck no matter what you name the characters.

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« Reply #386 on: Apr 05, 2012, 09:10:59 AM »
You know what I like most about his books?  The names.  They are all pretty simple, a lot of fantasy uses names that I end up reading as "the first letter followed by a the number of syllables" instead of a name.  Nope, GRR is all Robs and Theons.
Then you get fantasy books like The Sword of Truth where you have heroes named Richard.
Sure, but it would suck no matter what you name the characters.

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Re: George R. R. Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire (1996 - ?)
« Reply #387 on: Apr 05, 2012, 09:39:57 AM »
The first book was really really good. Then the other books were either repeats of that or bad or a retelling of The Fountainhead.

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Re: George R. R. Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire (1996 - ?)
« Reply #388 on: Apr 05, 2012, 10:07:49 AM »
To derail this thread just a bit more.  I read the first 3 or 4 of the sword of truth books without noticing the Objectivist stuff.  Is that something he worked in later or did I just miss it? 

Also, I agree with with Deepglue, the first one was pretty good but the went downhill quickly.

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Re: George R. R. Martin - A Song of Ice and Fire (1996 - ?)
« Reply #389 on: Apr 05, 2012, 03:28:13 PM »
To derail this thread just a bit more.  I read the first 3 or 4 of the sword of truth books without noticing the Objectivist stuff.  Is that something he worked in later or did I just miss it? 

Also, I agree with with Deepglue, the first one was pretty good but the went downhill quickly.

I think the objectivist stuff starts in the 5th or 6th book. It's not in the first 4 for sure. It's really really obvious when you get to it.
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