Topic: The Hobbit (2011)

[MisterMarc]

There was that one scene with Mickey Rooney as the asian Terminator, but I thought that was only in the directors cut.

A thread about the Hobbit, redirects into a long discussion about the Terminator, then gets a Breakfast at Tiffany's reference?  I love this forum.

I completely forgot this was a thread about The Hobbit. 

[Neon Genesis]

Um... the black dude died? That's about the only thing I can think of. I don't see it either.

Whoops, I was thinking of the wrong movie.

[Eternally Learning]

Um... the black dude died? That's about the only thing I can think of. I don't see it either.

Whoops, I was thinking of the wrong movie.

Ok, you've gotta spill.  What on earth were you thinking of that involved T2, T3, and racism?

[Vincegamer]

Um... the black dude died? That's about the only thing I can think of. I don't see it either.

Whoops, I was thinking of the wrong movie.

Ok, you've gotta spill.  What on earth were you thinking of that involved T2, T3, and racism?

MIB?

[Demosthenes]

Don’t dismiss Cameron, Aliens remains one of the most perfectly crafted action films made to date.
Not to mention that he literally designed the alien queen and a lot of other elements in the film.

Really? Because I would say that Cameron took an amazingly rare example of artful, thoughtful, horror film-making, and began it's eventual decline into pointless summer action blockbuster territory. I don't dislike Aliens, and I agree it's a good action film, but it's no Alien.

I think Cameron made exactually the right choice not try and recreate the feel of Alien.
Alien is one of the greatest horror films ever made and trying to duplicate it's feel would have never worked out no matter who directed it.

[Vincegamer]

I will never trash Aliens because it brought me some of the most fun I had in college: Aliens Tag.

A friend owned about a dozen laser tag guns and 3 sensors.  We devised a game where we went into one of the campus buildings at night, turned off all the lights but the safety lighting over the stairwells (this building had one main hall and 2 wings and thus 3 separate stairwells and 4 stories plus a basement). People drew cards to determine their roles (including "traitor") and weapons (pistol, rifle, medic or being an alien).  2 aliens (wearing sensors) hid 2 boxes in the building while the 12 marines lay down in the dark on the auditorium stage and played the opening music. When the music ended the marines got up and under a time limit tried to find a bandana that was in one of the boxes (the other box had the 3d sensor a.k.a. face hugger). Marines had to shoot aliens 5 times for a kill and aliens had to touch - body for a kill, limb for a maiming.

I remember one time the guy we voted captain happened to have drawn the traitor card.  He divided us into 2 groups and while my group was grumbling about how he stupidly imbalanced the groups we heard screams and ran down stairs to find the entire other team slaughtered by aliens.
ah, good times.

[David E.]

I will never trash Aliens because it brought me some of the most fun I had in college: Aliens Tag.

A friend owned about a dozen laser tag guns and 3 sensors.  We devised a game where we went into one of the campus buildings at night, turned off all the lights but the safety lighting over the stairwells (this building had one main hall and 2 wings and thus 3 separate stairwells and 4 stories plus a basement). People drew cards to determine their roles (including "traitor") and weapons (pistol, rifle, medic or being an alien).  2 aliens (wearing sensors) hid 2 boxes in the building while the 12 marines lay down in the dark on the auditorium stage and played the opening music. When the music ended the marines got up and under a time limit tried to find a bandana that was in one of the boxes (the other box had the 3d sensor a.k.a. face hugger). Marines had to shoot aliens 5 times for a kill and aliens had to touch - body for a kill, limb for a maiming.

I remember one time the guy we voted captain happened to have drawn the traitor card.  He divided us into 2 groups and while my group was grumbling about how he stupidly imbalanced the groups we heard screams and ran down stairs to find the entire other team slaughtered by aliens.
ah, good times.

That sounds awesome.  MIT used to host a nerf gun battle in one of the campus basements.  Your game sounds even more fun.  Though I can say that I took a year of Nerf Gun at MIT 

[Eternally Learning]

Some troubling news about The Hobbit:

The Hobbit ... Didn't Look So Good

Warner Bros. screened roughly 10 minutes of footage from The Hobbit today at their CinemaCon presentation in Las Vegas. The footage was projected in 3D at 48 frames per second for theater owners and press attending the conference.

A taped intro from director Peter Jackson preceded the footage. There is no honest discussion that can be had about this Hobbit footage without emphasizing the 48fps presentation. The film was shot this way and will be digitally projected this way, as well as presented in 3D. So what does 48fps movie footage look like as opposed to your usual 24fps theatrical movie experience? In this reporter's opinion, it looks like live television or hi-def video. And it didn't look particularly good. Yes, this is shocking, but I was actually let down by the Hobbit footage, as were a number of the other journalists that I spoke with afterward.

[Morvis13]

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[Neon Genesis]

Ok, you've gotta spill.  What on earth were you thinking of that involved T2, T3, and racism?

I saw the shortened title for Terminator "T2" and thought it meant Transformers. ^^;;

[Eternally Learning]

Ok, you've gotta spill.  What on earth were you thinking of that involved T2, T3, and racism?

I saw the shortened title for Terminator "T2" and thought it meant Transformers. ^^;;

Lol!  Two and a half months later and he comes through!!

[MisterMarc]

Some troubling news about The Hobbit:

The Hobbit ... Didn't Look So Good

Warner Bros. screened roughly 10 minutes of footage from The Hobbit today at their CinemaCon presentation in Las Vegas. The footage was projected in 3D at 48 frames per second for theater owners and press attending the conference.

A taped intro from director Peter Jackson preceded the footage. There is no honest discussion that can be had about this Hobbit footage without emphasizing the 48fps presentation. The film was shot this way and will be digitally projected this way, as well as presented in 3D. So what does 48fps movie footage look like as opposed to your usual 24fps theatrical movie experience? In this reporter's opinion, it looks like live television or hi-def video. And it didn't look particularly good. Yes, this is shocking, but I was actually let down by the Hobbit footage, as were a number of the other journalists that I spoke with afterward.

I can't find the discussion, but didn't we predict this? I feel like we discussed the shittiness of 48 FPS....or maybe that was a real life discussion, rather than on this forum.

[Scaramaus]

The Hobbit ... Didn't Look So Good

Warner Bros. screened roughly 10 minutes of footage from The Hobbit today at their CinemaCon presentation in Las Vegas. The footage was projected in 3D at 48 frames per second for theater owners and press attending the conference.

A taped intro from director Peter Jackson preceded the footage. There is no honest discussion that can be had about this Hobbit footage without emphasizing the 48fps presentation. The film was shot this way and will be digitally projected this way, as well as presented in 3D. So what does 48fps movie footage look like as opposed to your usual 24fps theatrical movie experience? In this reporter's opinion, it looks like live television or hi-def video. And it didn't look particularly good. Yes, this is shocking, but I was actually let down by the Hobbit footage, as were a number of the other journalists that I spoke with afterward.

there are also other opinions about this.
Read this from Aint it Cool News
I guess we have to wait and see for ourselves.

[Eternally Learning]

there are also other opinions about this.
Read this from Aint it Cool News
I guess we have to wait and see for ourselves.

That seems like a reasonable take to me.  I guess the good thing is that the movie itself seemed to be universally praised even though the medium was not.

[mindme]

I was at a store and they had Lord of the Rings on blueray and some sort of super high def tv and it basically looks like it's shot on video. How does a movie lose the "movie" look when it gets too high def?