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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #135 on: Nov 16, 2008, 09:49:56 AM »
Has anyone seen the movie "Expelled"?  It's a movie in support of Intelligent Design.  I'm not quite sure if they made any valid points toward their cause.  All I heard was: "Darwin is wrong, Darwin is wrong, Darwin is a bully".  I can agree that there could be a chance we were intelligently designed, however unlikely that it may be, but I believe since life started Darwinian evolution is what has driven the creation of more species and more advanced creatures.  The beginning of life is the only spot they should have touched upon with their argument!  If they had've done that then I could have lived with it.  But NO, they cut and paste and F***ED around with what people said and interpreted it against evolution in a way that could persuade the public without a scrap of proof.  THAT PISSED ME OFF.

Wow, you watched it?! Awesome. I'm sure that's empowering and probably enforces your resolve to say WTF!! Anyone know where I can get a copy!? I'd love to watch it, even if it is complete bullshit! I'm not sure I've seen it even advertised in ANY local cinemas here in Oz.


You could probably find it at some video stores or a video rental store.  Here's the movie's website: http://www.expelledexposed.com/

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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #136 on: Nov 16, 2008, 09:44:12 PM »
I'd watch it if it was funny, had violence, or was post-apocalyptic.
I can't believe you'd say that before you've watched it. How do you know it doesn't have any of that stuff!  ;D
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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #137 on: Nov 16, 2008, 11:20:53 PM »
Has anyone seen the movie "Expelled"?  It's a movie in support of Intelligent Design.  I'm not quite sure if they made any valid points toward their cause.  All I heard was: "Darwin is wrong, Darwin is wrong, Darwin is a bully".  I can agree that there could be a chance we were intelligently designed, however unlikely that it may be, but I believe since life started Darwinian evolution is what has driven the creation of more species and more advanced creatures.  The beginning of life is the only spot they should have touched upon with their argument!  If they had've done that then I could have lived with it.  But NO, they cut and paste and F***ED around with what people said and interpreted it against evolution in a way that could persuade the public without a scrap of proof.  THAT PISSED ME OFF.

Wow, you watched it?! Awesome. I'm sure that's empowering and probably enforces your resolve to say WTF!! Anyone know where I can get a copy!? I'd love to watch it, even if it is complete bullshit! I'm not sure I've seen it even advertised in ANY local cinemas here in Oz.


You could probably find it at some video stores or a video rental store.  Here's the movie's website: http://www.expelledexposed.com/


Sorry, I gave the wrong link.  The link I gave was a site debunking the movie.  Here is the "Expelled" movie's website: http://www.expelledthemovie.com/

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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #138 on: Nov 17, 2008, 05:17:13 AM »
Thanks muchly. Bizarre as it may sound, I'd love to watch it.
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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #139 on: Dec 31, 2010, 06:59:12 PM »
I don't disagree with the comments about the nature of Perrry's global warming input, but I am pointing out the absence of some balance on the issue.  Crichton himself spoke of the religious aspect of global warming.  Here is a brilliant, imaginative, extremely successful author and producer, but he did have a minority view on man made global warming.  Given his perceived uncertainties about the cause of the warming, he thought attacking poverty in the world made more sense than spending billions trying to sequester CO2 back into the ground, etc.  And at his death we have a largely critical discussion of him without even a suggestion that his global warming position could have an iota of merit.

I agree with Leggo.  I saw a talk by Crichton where he basically said that he believed that man-made warming was real, he was not sure how much it was responsible for the overall warming and he was definitely sure we do not fully understand all the consequences of a Carbon Reduction strategy, good or bad.  This is not at all like the bashing Rebecca gives him in this episode, very typical for her when she doesn't like someone's politics.

State of Fear is fiction, get over it.  When other fiction writers make fun of unscientific evangelical Christians, that is OK...news flash it is all OK.  Crichton is very well read on the topic and the evidence has matured since he wrote the book.  Dismissing him as a global warming basher is pretty shallow and thoughtless, neither of which I would use to describe Cricthon himself, no matter how much he musses up the science, at least he is looking at the evidence.

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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #140 on: Dec 31, 2010, 07:18:47 PM »
MMP?
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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #141 on: Dec 31, 2010, 07:32:23 PM »
Are you fucking kidding me? Your first post is on a episode from two years ago to bash rebecca for going after someone she (crazy) disagrees with?
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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #142 on: Jan 02, 2011, 08:18:18 AM »
I am listening to the SGU pod casts in order, about 1 a day,  this is the first one I am commenting on.

Rebecca misrepresented Crichton's position and was dismissive.  The fact that Rebecca believes she is way cooler than us and gets a pass from many of the listeners does not detract from the fact that she is generally pretty astute and well informed on most topics.


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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #143 on: Jan 02, 2011, 09:49:41 AM »
So how should we judge your personality based on the comment? Correct her! Hell I'd bet she would be the first to thank you for getting rid of her misconceptions, but personal attacks are beneath the level of discussion on the forums. Checks to see if he personally attacked the poster. Btw a thread defending creghton would be interesting as opposed to a post on a comment two years old which most just find annoying.
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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #144 on: Jan 02, 2011, 10:32:41 AM »
My post was primarily about Crichton....and your initial response was anything other than a personal attack....

As for the two year old staleness being annoying...you are at liberty to ignore this or any other untimely posts I might offer.

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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #145 on: Jan 02, 2011, 10:43:03 AM »
I am certainly at liberty to ignore this post, but a little work now will save me many unsatisfing posts later. And potentially provide me interesting threads in the future.
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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #146 on: Jan 02, 2011, 10:44:25 AM »
MMP?

Now I get it. Takes me a while sometimes.
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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #147 on: Nov 30, 2011, 08:12:33 PM »
Is the "lick" a SI unit of evidence or is it more like furlongs per fortnight -- an abstruse English unit?   As in "There is not a fempto-lick of evidence for Vitalism." ?     ::)
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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #148 on: Nov 30, 2011, 11:42:29 PM »
I thought a "lick" was slang for a lash? Not a lick of evidence meant no lash marks right?
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Re: Episode #172
« Reply #149 on: May 17, 2012, 12:01:42 AM »
i doubt anyone is looking at this thread any longer but i had a mistake in the episode to point out.  i really love randi but he mentioned something about dead crewmen on the sunken ship, the vasa, having been pickled in salt water.  i was curious about this but could not find any reliable source confirming this.  what i did find however, was that a number of dead crewmens' skeletons were discovered but they were not "pickled" as such. this information comes directly from the museum website on a page about the probably victims of the sinking: http://www.vasamuseet.se/en/Exhibitions/Face-to-face/

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