Topic: Dealing with religion on the doorstep

[Alex]

that was great! thought I think he went too far by following them.

[Leslie 417]

that was great! thought I think he went too far by following them.

I don't think he did... they were the ones who knocked on his door, they were on his property.

[Sunmn]

I usually try to politely get rid of JWs but once I kinda let em have it.

The JW was a black woman who handed me a pamphlet with a picture of a blond haired blue eyed Adam and Eve on the cover. I seriously asked her,  "Do you really believe that the first people were white?" She didn't answer me, she just said she was only dropping off the pamphlet and left. I wonder why she didn't want to talk to me?

[Leslie 417]

shame?

[Sunmn]

shame?

I like to think I converted her. Wouldn't that be cool!

[carlyle]

Just yesterday I had some JW's show up at my door.  Within the first fifteen seconds of them being there, I told them that I was an Atheist with good reason.  They still decided that they wanted to push the bible on me, so I decided to push my reasons back on them.

After they made very bold statements like, "How do you have any morals without a guide.", or, the one I liked best, "Your life must not mean much to you".  That really upset me.  I told them that I am here for my life only.  Once I did, that's it for me.  Explaining to them that my life probably means more to me then there's does to them, after all, they will have eternal life.

Anyways, I said there is little or no proof of any of the ramblings they are saying to me, and the lady responded with, "I will bring proof to you."  Sure I said, and she brought me over this book that delt with science and religion.  I read the first 15 or 20 pages, and it was all horse shit.  She will soon return to pick the book back up, but I'm afraid I will have to tell her I don't want to continue the battle any more.  I am never going to get threw to her head that she doesn't have to worry about religion and what she is doing.

Anyone have any ideas for a closing statement that I can say to her when she returns?

I'd like to say something like, "There isn't a god, you can live your life and not worry about it."  "Research it yourself."  I just don't think I will get threw to her at all by doing this.\

Thanks for letting me ramble.

Carlyle

[BigDumbWeirdo]

I was approached one saturday morning by two of them. I told them I didn't want to discuss religion and one of them asked "Is it the inherent hypocrisy in religion that bothers you?"
I was quite taken aback by such a blatant admission, and responded "Are you Jehovah's Witnesses or Dawkins' Witnesses?" at which they laughed and said goodbye.

[Leslie 417]

I was approached one saturday morning by two of them. I told them I didn't want to discuss religion and one of them asked "Is it the inherent hypocrisy in religion that bothers you?"
I was quite taken aback by such a blatant admission, and responded "Are you Jehovah's Witnesses or Dawkins' Witnesses?" at which they laughed and said goodbye.

Wow, that would have taken me back as well. Cool.

[Jim S]

Just yesterday I had some JW's show up at my door.  Within the first fifteen seconds of them being there, I told them that I was an Atheist with good reason.  They still decided that they wanted to push the bible on me, so I decided to push my reasons back on them.

After they made very bold statements like, "How do you have any morals without a guide.", or, the one I liked best, "Your life must not mean much to you".  That really upset me.  I told them that I am here for my life only.  Once I did, that's it for me.  Explaining to them that my life probably means more to me then there's does to them, after all, they will have eternal life.

Anyways, I said there is little or no proof of any of the ramblings they are saying to me, and the lady responded with, "I will bring proof to you."  Sure I said, and she brought me over this book that delt with science and religion.  I read the first 15 or 20 pages, and it was all horse shit.  She will soon return to pick the book back up, but I'm afraid I will have to tell her I don't want to continue the battle any more.  I am never going to get threw to her head that she doesn't have to worry about religion and what she is doing.

Anyone have any ideas for a closing statement that I can say to her when she returns?

I'd like to say something like, "There isn't a god, you can live your life and not worry about it."  "Research it yourself."  I just don't think I will get threw to her at all by doing this.\

Thanks for letting me ramble.

Carlyle

I would draft a short paper, maybe two pages, entitled, Your Church Is Lying To You.  In it I would take 3-4 of the better ideas from that religion and science book, and shred them. 

When she shows up, say, "OK, I read your book.  I'm asking you to read these two pages that I wrote about the book.  Read it tonight when you get home, or maybe when you stop for lunch.  I read the whole book, surely you can read two pages."

 

[Hanes]

I would draft a short paper, maybe two pages, entitled, Your Church Is Lying To You.  In it I would take 3-4 of the better ideas from that religion and science book, and shred them. 

When she shows up, say, "OK, I read your book.  I'm asking you to read these two pages that I wrote about the book.  Read it tonight when you get home, or maybe when you stop for lunch.  I read the whole book, surely you can read two pages."

Ya, because that's really one of the big problems with religious idiots.  They get told all these lies about science and atheists and when they're shown to be wrong they never think to themselves, "hey, they lied to me!"

[carlyle]

That is what I would like to do.  However, they always have the same terrible arugment that, "God said so."

"Why do you think earth is so perfect for life" she says to me, "Because god created it like this."

I just wrap my head off the walls trying to explain to them that they are beyond lucky just to be here.

[BigDumbWeirdo]

My mother is a hardcore baptist. Quite a few times when the JW's come to her door, she'll invite them in and start preaching to them how they're sinning by misinterpreting God's word, limiting the lifestyle and career choices of their children and judging people rather than teaching them. One or two have actually converted to baptism because of her.

While I admire the spirit of what she's doing, her success has made her pretty headstrong whenever me and her get into discussions of religion.

[Evil Eye]

Now that I have some really good background, I can't wait for them to show up.

[Evil Eye]

Oooh ooh! I just had an idea!

When they show up and want me to take their book or pamphlet, I will hand them a copy of "Demon Haunted World" and say, "I'll read yours if you will read mine."

If they refuse... fair.

If they accept, and don't read it, then they are worse than what they claim I am.

[Dirty J. Martini]

I live in an apartment building where you have to buzz someone to let you in. Unfortunately, my number on the buzzer is 1, so I'm always the first person buzzed. (I can understand a random person like a JW or mormon buzzing me because they aren't looking for anyone in particular, but when you have a pizza for "Jones" does it really take that much effort to look for the buzzer marked "Jones"? But I digress.)

So one time a JW buzzed me and said something about wanting to share God's word with me. I politely said I wasn't interested and she asked, "Well can I leave these pamphlets at the door?" To which I replied, "No." She was shocked. "What?" "I said, 'No' you may not leave your pamphlets." And it appeared that she didn't! I thought for sure she would anyway.