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Neanderthal Sex
« on: June 13, 2009, 08:38:10 AM »
On early editions of the SGU, evidence that there has been no genetic exchange between Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal as taken as evidence that there had been no sex between the two species - but isn't this incorrect? We could similarly infer from doing genetic analysis on horses and donkeys that mules don't exist and that any who appear in the neighborhood are merely hallucinations...
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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2009, 11:44:37 AM »
Are you questioning the SGU?  >:(
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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2009, 05:31:40 PM »
On early editions of the SGU, evidence that there has been no genetic exchange between Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal as taken as evidence that there had been no sex between the two species - but isn't this incorrect? We could similarly infer from doing genetic analysis on horses and donkeys that mules don't exist and that any who appear in the neighborhood are merely hallucinations...

Did they say no sex took place, or no breeding?

I vaguely recall some discussions on it, but certainly not the details.

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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 05:51:14 AM »
On early editions of the SGU, evidence that there has been no genetic exchange between Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal as taken as evidence that there had been no sex between the two species - but isn't this incorrect? We could similarly infer from doing genetic analysis on horses and donkeys that mules don't exist and that any who appear in the neighborhood are merely hallucinations...

Interspecies sex happens all the time. If there were fertile offspring produced from these separate groups (whether you want to call them "species"), we wouldn't call them separate species. The same would be true if found evidence of genomes converging with donkeys and horses.

What's important to note is that Cro-Magnon and Neanderthals were biologically pretty similar AFAIK. So a lack of genome convergence not only suggests a lack of ability to interbreed, it suggests that they never really tried.

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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 10:23:43 AM »
On early editions of the SGU, evidence that there has been no genetic exchange between Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal as taken as evidence that there had been no sex between the two species - but isn't this incorrect? We could similarly infer from doing genetic analysis on horses and donkeys that mules don't exist and that any who appear in the neighborhood are merely hallucinations...

Interspecies sex happens all the time. If there were fertile offspring produced from these separate groups (whether you want to call them "species"), we wouldn't call them separate species. The same would be true if found evidence of genomes converging with donkeys and horses.

What's important to note is that Cro-Magnon and Neanderthals were biologically pretty similar AFAIK. So a lack of genome convergence not only suggests a lack of ability to interbreed, it suggests that they never really tried.

I'm pretty sure they interbred, but in such small volumes that no offspring made it more than a generation.

I seem to remember seeing this on a Science Channel special.
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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2009, 03:44:55 PM »
Interspecies erotica.  So easy a caveman can do it.
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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2009, 03:58:48 PM »
Interspecies erotica.  So easy a caveman can do it.

That was a low blow.

You could say the joke sucked.

I'm sure, however, some folks were tickled.

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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2009, 04:07:09 PM »
Is this going to turn into an explicit thread?
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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2009, 05:23:19 PM »
Is this going to turn into an explicit thread?

Only if we're doing it right.

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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2009, 05:45:18 PM »
Is this going to turn into an explicit thread?

Only if we're doing it right.

Thread needs more graphic descriptions!
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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2009, 07:45:37 PM »
Interspecies erotica.  So easy a caveman can do it.

That was a low blow.

You could say the joke sucked.

I'm sure, however, some folks were tickled.

That's the way I roll  8)
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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2009, 09:36:50 AM »
Is this going to turn into an explicit thread?

Only if we're doing it right.

Thread needs more graphic descriptions!

Thock raised his club to strike, but realized he wasn't sneaking up on just any other primate, but on a female of the short, squat species that often copulated with his kind, but never burdened one with young. It had been weeks since Thock had mated, and his desires had been growing. Nights alone were wearing on him sine he'd been separated from his tribe. He'd never actually BEEN with one of these creatures, but he'd heard stories, and seen encounters from afar.

Instead of striking he made the soft hooting sound he'd heard these creatures make when mating. The female looked up and turned around, surprised. She was shorter than Thock, with a broader chest and a bit more hair. She smiled and held out her hand. She wanted payment for what Thock so clearly wanted....

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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2009, 11:22:38 AM »
I think we're getting closer to explicit here! Funny how that is, so easy to get sidetracked from the real questi...


...what was the question?
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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2009, 02:00:39 PM »
I think we're getting closer to explicit here! Funny how that is, so easy to get sidetracked from the real questi...


...what was the question?

Did our ancestors and Netherlanders do the nasty? If so, is the progeny still among us?

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Re: Neanderthal Sex
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2009, 05:23:38 PM »
I think we're getting closer to explicit here! Funny how that is, so easy to get sidetracked from the real questi...


...what was the question?

Did our ancestors and Netherlanders do the nasty? If so, is the progeny still among us?

Hmmm

Maybe

Though we can't be sure

 

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