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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #405 on: Jul 11, 2012, 11:55:31 PM »
Do you guys know the backstory about why they joke about baby-eating?
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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #406 on: Jul 12, 2012, 01:01:54 AM »
Do you guys know the backstory about why they joke about baby-eating?

isn't it just a part of nerd canon?
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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #407 on: Jul 12, 2012, 08:15:07 AM »
Do you guys know the backstory about why they joke about baby-eating?
If I remember correctly, it's from a picture of Steve and some other skeptics at a Thanksgiving table with a baby on it put out by some creationist group.

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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #408 on: Jul 12, 2012, 10:07:21 AM »
Anti-vaxers. Age of Autism to be exact.

Here we go:

http://www.rescuepost.com/.a/6a00d8357f3f2969e2012875ee0678970c-350wi
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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #409 on: Jul 12, 2012, 10:11:32 AM »
Beat me

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« Reply #411 on: Jul 12, 2012, 10:14:04 AM »
Photoshop queen? Ironman would do a much better job.
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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #412 on: Jul 15, 2012, 12:48:41 AM »
lol@"Hotel California"! :D

And, hell, I could probably do a better PS mock-up and I haven't seriously used PS in years. :P

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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #413 on: Jul 15, 2012, 02:11:50 PM »

well, at least the guy wants to give the good doctor two dollars a year. so what if he wants them to negotiate for it?

I for one would never give a successful person two dollars without receiving some sort of compromise in return!

Negotiate?  Not sure what that means.  I'm more than willing to pay for the overhead my podcast consumption costs the SGU, plus a bit extra for the hassle.  If you think about it, the SGU has had to compromise.  Everyone does.  They accepted the ad money, after all, I'm assuming because the more the pod goes out, the more it costs them personally.

My system has another advantage.  The money they raise from subscriptions to ad-free podcasts theoretically has the potential to increase their revenue far more than ad revenue.  This would make already successful people more successful.  I can't see a down side to this.

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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #414 on: Jul 15, 2012, 02:30:26 PM »
Look, obviously this is just my opinion, but I find it very rude to complain about something that's free to me particularly when the person providing it is doing it at great cost of time effort and money, and haven't asked you're opinion.

But this is a thread that asks for people's opinions! :)

And separately, I don't think it's rude anyway if it is less a complaint and more of a suggestion. We obviously differ on what we think of what peristaltor was doing, but assuming it's thoughtful and respectful feedback I think it's beneficial for people to provide it as long as they don't expect their wishes to be granted simply because they expressed them.

Thank you, sir or madame.  I did try to make my contribution a constructive suggestion.

I don't know why ads bother me so much, just as I don't know why I like the taste of potato chips or bubbly water, or hate certain foods.  Maybe I have a mental affliction, I honestly don't know.

But, much as those afflicted with prosopagnosia cannot see faces, very few who can see faces don't get that the face blind aren't being rude or stand-off-ish in not recognizing friends or family in the room.  I find that there are many out there, like Sea Otter, that absolutely cannot understand why someone would want to live in a world without commercial ads.  They don't feel the rage, so they don't know what is so upsetting about ads.

I do know that I am, however, far from alone.  I know there is a market for ad-free content, even if this content comes with a yearly charge of some modest amount.  Again, my money goes where my mouth wanders.  I gave over $400 this year alone to podcasters to support their efforts.  These podcasters also know that if ads crept into their format, even a little, my money would disappear.  They get it.  One either accepts ads or one accepts contributions, but never both!

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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #415 on: Jul 15, 2012, 02:39:02 PM »
Oh I never watch ads. Again it was your attitude toward the sgu that got me going. IMO you were rude and so I retaliated. Not the most mature decision.
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« Reply #416 on: Jul 15, 2012, 02:46:17 PM »
My system would simply allow those concerned to opt out of ads.

how? by setting up an additional ad-free podcast especially for people like you, and somehow restricting access to it to those who paid?

Yes!

Right now the ability to do this is hampered by a lack of a service to collect the money and distribute the podcasts efficiently.  But if podcasters themselves suggest that this would be a way to go, I'm sure one of the distribution services would consider developing the tech.

Look, it may sound like a pain in the ass for the podcaster, but then again, so is producing ads.  I can direct you to podcasts that already encourage contributions effectively enough to more than offset their costs.  I know of one podcaster that now makes his living on podcasting alone, and all without commercial compromise.

Not only can it be done, it could be improved upon with suggestions like mine and done even better.

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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #417 on: Jul 15, 2012, 07:29:18 PM »
Negotiate?  Not sure what that means. 
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 The money they raise from subscriptions to ad-free podcasts theoretically has the potential to increase their revenue far more than ad revenue.  This would make already successful people more successful.  I can't see a down side to this.

why can't they do both?
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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #418 on: Jul 18, 2012, 01:15:57 PM »

 The money they raise from subscriptions to ad-free podcasts theoretically has the potential to increase their revenue far more than ad revenue.  This would make already successful people more successful

why can't they do both?

Obviously, they are.  As evidence, one can see in that episode both the donate button on the site and the Audibile ad. 

I object to that personally.  I guess I could go to my friends asking for money when I have a good job; I just don't see how they would be my friends if I did that.  NPR has been doing this for years, which is why I no longer listen to NPR.

I do realize not everyone shares this objection.  Go back in history, though, and many, many more did.

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Re: Podcast Change suggestions
« Reply #419 on: Jul 18, 2012, 07:14:49 PM »
I guess I could go to my friends asking for money when I have a good job; I just don't see how they would be my friends if I did that.

tangent: how do you feel about Obama raising money for the election campaign?

just because you have a job doesn't mean you have enough money.

with the argument you've offered, I could say 'SGU, dropping the ads isn't good enough -- I know one of you is a doctor, and the rest of you probably have jobs, so even if you drop the ads it's wrong for you to ask me for money'. (of course, a. they're not asking me for money, they're merely facilitating donations for those who want to give (giving makes people feel good, so it's only kind to make giving possible) and b. 'podcasters' aren't necessarily analogous to 'friends')
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