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[UncleNasty]

Hi all,

I noticed there were a couple of older threads mentioning this subject but they're kinda out dated.

As a bit of background, I live in the middle of a wind farm in Ontario, Canada, and we're hearing a lot of the anecdotal rubbish (personal bias) about people falling ill from a whole host of complaints due to the recently built turbines.

There's a local lobby to stop them building more and a lot of people trying to claim loss of property value, etc.

Hunting around the web I've not found a lot of information on the health impact of turbines until I found this study from AWEA and CanWEA.

http://www.canwea.ca/wind-energy/talkingaboutwind_e.php

The study seems reasonable, but if any proper scientific types out there feel like commenting, I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.

Cheers,

Unclenasty

[Bunsen]

I only have one problem with their findings, and it has to do with the property values discussion.

When you consider property value, you have to consider what the property is going to be used for.  If you moved to the country to start a farm, then there is no claim against the turbines because there is no impediment to your ability to do so.

However, in the United States, there is a concept called "right of quiet enjoyment" which has some limited application if, for instance, you moved to the country to escape the noise of the city and relax in your convalescence, only to discover that you are now constantly inundated with the sound of a slow-motion helicopter attack on your property. 

The application of the nuisance per accidens legal standard would give an American property owner the right to request a trial by jury to decide whether or not the turbines qualified as a private nuisance to the property owner.  A private nuisance which violates enjoyment rights can result in lowered property values, and restitution for such damages can be enforced by the state.

Of course, this report originated in Canada, and I don't know shit from shit about privacy and nuisance laws up there in America's Hat.

[Bunsen]

Whoopsie, double post.

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 Hi, there.  I think you're really nice for clicking on my spoiler.  I hope you have a great day!

[jaypee]

I'd prefer calling it "America, Jr."

[Bunsen]

I'd prefer calling it "America, Jr."

Did I just accidentally hijack UncleNasty's thread and turn it into a giant Canada-bashing?

If so, good.  Wind power is an excellent choice for them.  Unless they can attach solar panels to a moose, they don't have much else going for them.

I kid, I kid.  I used to love driving up to Windsor and banging out the daft 19 year-old university girls there.  Canada's great when you're high, drunk, and have a bulk roll of condoms in the trunk.

Also, welcome to the forum, UncleNasty!  Great name.

[UncleNasty]

I'd prefer calling it "America, Jr."

Did I just accidentally hijack UncleNasty's thread and turn it into a giant Canada-bashing?

If so, good.  Wind power is an excellent choice for them.  Unless they can attach solar panels to a moose, they don't have much else going for them.

I kid, I kid.  I used to love driving up to Windsor and banging out the daft 19 year-old university girls there.  Canada's great when you're high, drunk, and have a bulk roll of condoms in the trunk.

We're bigger and we're on top... What does that say about the relationship
<cue Moulin Huge links>

Also, welcome to the forum, UncleNasty!  Great name.

TYVM It's not so much a name as a description 

[jaypee]

We're bigger and we're on top... What does that say about the relationship
<cue Moulin Huge links>

well, that triggered a flashback I could have lived without

[JoelWhy]

We're bigger and we're on top... What does that say about the relationship

According to Stephen Colbert, that makes you America's sombrero.

[jaypee]

at any rate, back to the topic at hand:

compare wind turbines to the ecological apocalypse which is the Canadian tar sands industry.

supposed "health effects" of having to hear the "whoosh whoosh whoosh" of turbine blades doesn't seem so bad in comparison, now does it?

[Hanes]

I grew up next to a highway and about a mile from a rail line.  When I went to college, I missed the steady hum of traffic, and when I'm having trouble sleeping, the sound of a train whistle puts me right out.

People complaining about a little wind turbine noise need a big fat helping of shut the fuck up.

[jaypee]

I grew up next to a highway and about a mile from a rail line.  When I went to college, I missed the steady hum of traffic, and when I'm having trouble sleeping, the sound of a train whistle puts me right out.

People complaining about a little wind turbine noise need a big fat helping of shut the fuck up.

I grew up down the street from a fire station and a police station, I literally get freaked out by the lack of sirens when I go camping.

that and the thought of wolves eating me.

[Chew]

Seems suspiciously like electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

[David E.]

Seems suspiciously like electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

You mean "Pleasepayattentiontome!!itis"

Also known as "attentionwhorebosis."

[Bunsen]

Seems suspiciously like electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

You mean "Pleasepayattentiontome!!itis"

Also known as "attentionwhorebosis."

That's not funny - my mother died from attentionwhorebosis.

[David E.]

Seems suspiciously like electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

You mean "Pleasepayattentiontome!!itis"

Also known as "attentionwhorebosis."

That's not funny - my mother died from attentionwhorebosis.

How did she die of it?  My deepest condolences