Topic: Episode #265

[alanog]

Loved the interview, would have liked to hear his thoughts about ray kurzweil's idea to  slow down the aging process until it can be reversed; bridging the gap until the next bridge is built (or something like that). Love the show

[Chew]

WTN = Some sort of beetle?

You have to name the species. Sorry. It's the rules.

[GodSlayer]

Did anyone else just crack up at 27.38 where Steve says.
"And you didn't think that was a good idea, to take industrial strength bleach."
So calm and straight faced.

in future, the manufacturers will use only "medicinal-strength bleach", and their customers will be all the more impressed.

[Old Hoplite]

Champagne :
I recently heard a 50 minutes podcast about the science of Champagne with Gérard Liger Belair, the same physicist who led that study. He mentionned an urban legend about putting a spoon in the bottleneck to keep the bubbles in the wine. I've seen people doing that, quite certain it worked. Of course it doesn't, he precised it had no reason to.

When I heard this science or fiction and Ms. Watson's 'defense' of the French it reminded me of a story one of my instructors told his class.

During World War 2 a Free French division was assigned to Patton's 3rd Army and Patton was a bit of a Francophile so he assigned them to clear out the Champagne region, but instead of moving right thru the Germans, for some reason they stalled so Patton sent a Staff Officer to find out what was going on. While this staff officer was talking to the French division commander the French intelligence officer burst in and said he had found the flaw in the German defense; all the German position were in vineyards of inferior vintage. The division commander ordered an immediate attack.
I have no idea if the story is true or not, but it does say something about how the worlds view the French.   

[Old Hoplite]

"I quickly rubbished." by Reese. Quote of the Week!

Sounded fine for UK vernacular. Is "rubbish" not used as a verb in the US?

(BTW, it's Rhys ... Welsh spelling.)

Its not really used a noun in America either.

[Chew]

"I quickly rubbished." by Reese. Quote of the Week!

Sounded fine for UK vernacular. Is "rubbish" not used as a verb in the US?

(BTW, it's Rhys ... Welsh spelling.)

Its not really used a noun in America either.

Rubbish! I use it all the time as a noun.

[Kwisatz Haderach]

"I quickly rubbished." by Reese. Quote of the Week!

Sounded fine for UK vernacular. Is "rubbish" not used as a verb in the US?

(BTW, it's Rhys ... Welsh spelling.)

Its not really used a noun in America either.

Now that I've lived in England for about a year, I find myself equally fluent in both vernaculars, and find it strange both when a British person is confused by American words and when an American person is confused by British words.

But really, even before I moved here it though it was kind of strange.  I mean, seriously... we've been watching eachother's TV shows for years now, we should know what eachother's words.  Sometimes I think people emphasize the differences just to be jerks.

[seaotter]

WTN = Some sort of beetle?

You have to name the species. Sorry. It's the rules.

Isn't naming the largest order of animals on the planets enough? Probably really some order of nematodes if we knew more about them.

[GodSlayer]

Now that I've lived in England for about a year, I find myself equally fluent in both vernaculars, and find it strange both when a British person is confused by American words and when an American person is confused by British words.

But really, even before I moved here it though it was kind of strange.  I mean, seriously... we've been watching eachother's TV shows for years now, we should know what eachother's words.  Sometimes I think people emphasize the differences just to be jerks.

der jerkin? das ist verboten!

[Old Hoplite]

"I quickly rubbished." by Reese. Quote of the Week!

Sounded fine for UK vernacular. Is "rubbish" not used as a verb in the US?

(BTW, it's Rhys ... Welsh spelling.)

Its not really used a noun in America either.

Rubbish! I use it all the time as a noun.

Rubbish bin or trash can?
“What a load of garbage!” or “That is absolute rubbish!”
Wasn’t it Churchill that said we are “Two nations divided by a common language.”
I spent a length of time in England in the mid-late 80’s sort of commuting between there and Germany and found it pretty easy to slip from one vernacular to another (middle class RAF officer Brit speak and middle class American Milspeak). However, when I opined that one female RAF  officer had an “outstanding fanny”, which brought the conversation to a halt, my Brit friends quickly explained my error. 

[Old Hoplite]

"I quickly rubbished." by Reese. Quote of the Week!

Sounded fine for UK vernacular. Is "rubbish" not used as a verb in the US?

(BTW, it's Rhys ... Welsh spelling.)

Its not really used a noun in America either.

Now that I've lived in England for about a year, I find myself equally fluent in both vernaculars, and find it strange both when a British person is confused by American words and when an American person is confused by British words.

But really, even before I moved here it though it was kind of strange.  I mean, seriously... we've been watching eachother's TV shows for years now, we should know what eachother's words.  Sometimes I think people emphasize the differences just to be jerks.

Or wankers?

[MisterMarc]

Next time Rhys (I'll take Trinoc's word that is the correct spelling) finds himself shouted down or banned from a forum full of woo, he should come here and mobilize the infantry.

On the gas in the water topic: I think the gas wouldn't just be one giant bubble as Jay seemed to be implying. More likely it's an area of ocean which is infused with a huge number of small gas bubbles for what may be a long period of time. I don't know if it's enough to sink a ship, but it's used in olympic training. The aerialists (ski jumpers who do the flips and such) use it in summer training. They ski down an artificial turf, hit the jump, practice their flips, and land in a pool of water. There is a series of pipes in the pool that release large volumes of air at the appropriate moment to create bubbles and break the surface tension. Makes it hurt less to hit the water with skis.

[Beep Boop Boop]

Just as a side note for whoever of the podcast is listening. That paper was published in July.  I remember reading about it on the American Chemical Society's journal article news page.  What you should do is just peruse every enigneering and science society's website instead of any news networks and you shall never loose.

Did anyone else just crack up at 27.38 where Steve says.
"And you didn't think that was a good idea, to take industrial strength bleach."
So calm and straight faced.

Actually, its worst.  Its a hypersensitive explosive.  The MMS method of producing this chemical is the only safe way of transporting it. You can't actually produce said chemical and transport it because if light comes in contact with concentrated enough solutions it goes boom.

[vespine]

I discussed MMS on these forums earlier this year. The scam has actually been around for nearly a decade, unfortunately for the majority of that time, MMS supporters have been unchecked in their prolific dissemination of propaganda around the web. The result is now the web has literally hundreds of thousands of sites supporting this bunk.

http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,26025.0.html

A user named Woolf actually joined the forum to debate the subject with me. It was very interesting to hear his side of the story and how powerful personal experience can be to some people in creating a belief which is not supported by scientific evidence. To his credit, Woolf was nothing but polite and reasonable during the whole thread, he never resorted to personal attacks or some of the more typical hysterical "conspiracy" responses, (EDIT: I  just re read the thread and he did in fact resort to the conspiracy argument) but I was thoroughly unable to even make a dint in his "belief" in what MMS was really responsible for and how placebo, bias and fallacy might instead be responsible for what he perceives as having experienced.

Here's a website with a critical examination of Jim Humble's claims and the MMS scam.

http://sites.google.com/site/mmsdebunked/

[Evil Eye]

I discussed MMS on these forums earlier this year. The scam has actually been around for nearly a decade, unfortunately for the majority of that time, MMS supporters have been unchecked in their prolific dissemination of propaganda around the web. The result is now the web has literally hundreds of thousands of sites supporting this bunk.

[url=http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,26025.0.html]http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,26025.0.html[/url]

A user named Woolf actually joined the forum to debate the subject with me. It was very interesting to hear his side of the story and how powerful personal experience can be to some people in creating a belief which is not supported by scientific evidence. To his credit, Woolf was nothing but polite and reasonable during the whole thread, he never resorted to personal attacks or some of the more typical hysterical "conspiracy" responses, (EDIT: I  just re read the thread and he did in fact resort to the conspiracy argument) but I was thoroughly unable to even make a dint in his "belief" in what MMS was really responsible for and how placebo, bias and fallacy might instead be responsible for what he perceives as having experienced.

Here's a website with a critical examination of Jim Humble's claims and the MMS scam.

[url=http://sites.google.com/site/mmsdebunked/]http://sites.google.com/site/mmsdebunked/[/url]

Ian Woolf?

http://www.hereswhy.tk/