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Re: Introduce yourself here!
« Reply #5985 on: January 04, 2017, 08:04:46 AM »
I don't think I've seen anyone call someone a X-tard (where X can be replaced by many prefixes). There's always going to be some eye rolling and a few who overreact or use snark but nothing here has made me want to smash my head against the monitor. That's an actual feeling I get when I read in most other forums.

Libtard is frequently used in the forum satirically to make fun of people who use the term libtard.
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« Reply #5986 on: January 04, 2017, 09:59:48 AM »
... I've seen a lot of threads where there have been people in strong opposition to each other. Usually politics or things social justice related. I think this place still comes across as mature at least relative to 99.9% of all other online communities that aren't just echo chambers. ...

I agree. I've tried out a few other boards whose titles suggest they are unreligious or left-leaning, and was not at all comfortable. On one, after my first post I was accused, angrily and nastily, of being a pseudonym for someone else.

I do sometimes turn to a specialist board for information/advice on their subject, but not as places to chat generally.
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Re: Introduce yourself here!
« Reply #5987 on: January 04, 2017, 02:47:18 PM »
Naval Architecture is misleading in that it suggests I'm in the navy, at least to almost everyone I've ever met. It really just means that I've studied ship design and things relating to marine engineering. That I've worked almost entirely on projects involving naval vessels is a coincidence.
I've been in program management for school building for a long time and a ton of our project and design managers are from the Navy. Seems the Navy cranks out a lot of builders!
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Re: Introduce yourself here!
« Reply #5988 on: January 04, 2017, 09:14:38 PM »
I don't think I've seen anyone call someone a X-tard (where X can be replaced by many prefixes). There's always going to be some eye rolling and a few who overreact or use snark but nothing here has made me want to smash my head against the monitor. That's an actual feeling I get when I read in most other forums.

Libtard is frequently used in the forum satirically to make fun of people who use the term libtard.

That's pretty different and something that doesn't bother me. Really anyone who is overly disturbed by the discourse on this forum should just quit the internet.

I'm a pretty big fan of Joe Rogan's podcast (not for his knowledge of science obviously) and occasionally browse his private forum see feedback on a new guest he's had. Try reading pages of threads there and tell me this place has issues...
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Re: Introduce yourself here!
« Reply #5989 on: January 12, 2017, 04:48:41 PM »
Hi everyone.

Long -time, first-time. Big fan, new to the forums but lurked a little already.

Looking forward to chatting with all of you.

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« Reply #5990 on: January 19, 2017, 08:34:29 AM »
Hi everyone.

Long -time, first-time. Big fan, new to the forums but lurked a little already.

Looking forward to chatting with all of you.

Cheers!

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« Reply #5991 on: January 19, 2017, 03:46:57 PM »
So I'm reading about and listening to the disagreement that Dr. Novella had with Rhonda Patrick and Joe Rogan about cryotherapy and I'm wondering, if cryotherapy doesn't work (I really could care less honestly) would that also mean that putting an ice pack on a swollen injury wouldn't be helpful? Also, have those crazy looking "cryo-chambers" been around long enough to know how well or how little they work?

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« Reply #5992 on: January 19, 2017, 03:58:15 PM »
So I'm reading about and listening to the disagreement that Dr. Novella had with Rhonda Patrick and Joe Rogan about cryotherapy and I'm wondering, if cryotherapy doesn't work (I really could care less honestly) would that also mean that putting an ice pack on a swollen injury wouldn't be helpful? Also, have those crazy looking "cryo-chambers" been around long enough to know how well or how little they work?

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Good question, but Chinese traditional medicine has been around for millennia and still...
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Re: Introduce yourself here!
« Reply #5993 on: January 19, 2017, 04:24:20 PM »
Not too sure what you mean by that hahaha. sorry might just be missing your point

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Re: Introduce yourself here!
« Reply #5994 on: January 19, 2017, 04:30:15 PM »
There is a rather big difference between cooling an injury with a ice pack and freezing your body. The latter tends to destroy your cells.

And what Jeremy meant, if he'll pardon me for jumping in, is that Chinese medicine's efficacy has never been proven scientifically and it would be considered nonsense by many of us, yet people still believe in it after hundreds/thousands of years.

I think the key thing here is that cryogenic freezing won't really be proven to work until they freeze someone in that way and then wake them back up.
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« Reply #5995 on: January 19, 2017, 06:13:00 PM »
Not too sure what you mean by that hahaha. sorry might just be missing your point
Louie is right, sorry, I just meant that just because they've been around for a while doesn't mean much in terms of efficacy since total bunk persists despite any good evidence. I think it has been shown not to work well, but that hasn't slowed the true believers down.

A friend is raising money for his company for an Alzheimer's cure (don't worry, he's an actual neuroscientist with tons of research experience) who was talking about athletic enhancement shown through brain stimulation. I pointed out to him that athletes still wear magnetic bracelets for performance enhancement so self reported performance enhancement doesn't mean a whole lot. (The study, though small, seems promising regardless.) There's a lot of woo in sport's medicine.
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« Reply #5996 on: January 19, 2017, 06:43:34 PM »
Oh sports medicine (not what would be taught to someone who would be working for a college sports team but more along the lines of all the supplements) is FULL of bullshit ideas that people promote. Definitely makes sense that the cryo-chambers would damage cells since its an insanely low temperature. I wonder if in certain cases the benefits (if there actually are some) would be worth the cell damage.
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« Reply #5997 on: January 20, 2017, 09:04:40 AM »
So I'm reading about and listening to the disagreement that Dr. Novella had with Rhonda Patrick and Joe Rogan about cryotherapy and I'm wondering, if cryotherapy doesn't work (I really could care less honestly) would that also mean that putting an ice pack on a swollen injury wouldn't be helpful? Also, have those crazy looking "cryo-chambers" been around long enough to know how well or how little they work?

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There is a rather big difference between cooling an injury with a ice pack and freezing your body. The latter tends to destroy your cells.

I think what's meant by cryotherapy is when they expose you to extremely cold air for a brief time. Not long enough to freeze your skin (frostbite). Because air has such low density, a sufficiently brief exposure won't damage you. IIRC the Oh, No, Ross & Carrie podcast had an episode on it. To attempt to answer dteichrow's question, the difference is that an ice pack actually cools a part of your body, but not sufficiently to freeze it, whereas cryotherapy, in spite of the extremely cold temperature involved, doesn't even really do that. Also, an ice pack is aimed at a specific injured part of your body, whereas cryotherapy is claimed to provide generalized wholistic benefits.
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« Reply #5998 on: January 20, 2017, 03:17:11 PM »
Welcome!

Re: cryotherapy and ice packs: ice packs are applied to injuries because the cold triggers a narrowing of blood vessels, which can reduce inflammation and its associate pain. Cryotherapy will probably have the same effect on any areas that are inflamed (making it an extremely expensive ice pack), but beyond that, there doesn't seem to be much evidence for its utility.
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Re: Introduce yourself here!
« Reply #5999 on: January 21, 2017, 01:49:33 PM »
A friend is raising money for his company for an Alzheimer's cure (don't worry, he's an actual neuroscientist with tons of research experience) who was talking about athletic enhancement shown through brain stimulation. I pointed out to him that athletes still wear magnetic bracelets for performance enhancement so self reported performance enhancement doesn't mean a whole lot. (The study, though small, seems promising regardless.) There's a lot of woo in sport's medicine.

I would expand that to anything fitness related. I have several friends who are into weight lifting and I'm married to someone who spends most of their spare time at the gym. The amount of misinformation from coaches, podcasts etc is amazing. I guess once you introduce a competitive element it gets even worse as everyone is trying to get the smallest edge on their competition. So you get a lot of "what's the harm?" logic.
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