Topic: The Cycling Thread

[pandamonium]

I doubt working eight hours before riding 5 miles effected my performance.

[GodSlayer]

I doubt working eight hours before riding 5 miles effected my performance.

as do I, but mostly for grammatical reasons

[pandamonium]

I always get that one wrong. Bah.

[WC]

Affected or effected? I usually mess that up.

[GodSlayer]

Affected or effected? I usually mess that up.

are there any instances where the rule doesn't apply:
effected = caused
afFECTed = influenced
AFfected = feigned
(maybe I'm the only one who pronounces a difference)

[quokka]

This probably doesn't warrant its own thread so I'm posting this here where the sporty types may be able to help out.....Compression pants, such as 'skins', '2XU', etc; is their any real science behind their efficacy when riding/running or exercising and as a recovery aid?

 I used them when I went to bed after I really managed to over do it and it didn't take long to feel a lot less sore.  The problem is; I can't find much in the way of credible research telling me that these things actually do to much.

[GodSlayer]

This probably doesn't warrant its own thread so I'm posting this here where the sporty types may be able to help out.....Compression pants, such as 'skins', '2XU', etc; is their any real science behind their efficacy when riding/running or exercising and as a recovery aid?

 I used them when I went to bed after I really managed to over do it and it didn't take long to feel a lot less sore.  The problem is; I can't find much in the way of credible research telling me that these things actually do to much.

Michael Shermer was big on cycling, right? might be something he's looked into. can he be tweeted or something?

[Cognoscento]

This probably doesn't warrant its own thread so I'm posting this here where the sporty types may be able to help out.....Compression pants, such as 'skins', '2XU', etc; is their any real science behind their efficacy when riding/running or exercising and as a recovery aid?

 I used them when I went to bed after I really managed to over do it and it didn't take long to feel a lot less sore.  The problem is; I can't find much in the way of credible research telling me that these things actually do to much.

There are endless debates on this very subject on the triathlon forums.  I've used compression sleeves both for racing and recovery.
There is research that supports the recovery claims made by the manufacturers of compression gear :
www.jssm.org/vol5/n1/12/v5n1-12pdf.pd

However there is nothing yet that definitively shows how wearing compression gear during exercise reduces fatigue.  That being said, I've worn compression sleeves on my legs both during and after endurance races and in my N=1 experience, they work.  During a long run, the constant jiggling of my muscles contributes to my overall sense of fatigue. However, when I wear compression sleeves, everything is held in place much better and I really notice it. It's hard to explain but they make me feel like my legs are "firing" more quickly with each stride.  It could very well be placebo or the fact that in triathlete culture it's the "cool" thing to wear.  A lot of times I'll notice that if I "look" fast, I am fast.  Who knows....


Speaking of endurance races - tomorrow I go again into the jaws of the beast.  The Leadman Triathlon.  The terrain is challenging enough and the water will be a bit chilly (56*F) but I am really worried about the forecasted 30-40mph sustained winds with gusts up to 60mph!!    Wish me luck!

2011 LeadmanTri Life Time Epic 250

[jaypee]

Good luck, you masochist.

[WC]

This probably doesn't warrant its own thread so I'm posting this here where the sporty types may be able to help out.....Compression pants, such as 'skins', '2XU', etc; is their any real science behind their efficacy when riding/running or exercising and as a recovery aid?

 I used them when I went to bed after I really managed to over do it and it didn't take long to feel a lot less sore.  The problem is; I can't find much in the way of credible research telling me that these things actually do to much.

I did a cursory search for any real science behind the concept too, after my super athlete brother suggested compression shorts for running, all I found was ad copy. The problem I was having was thigh chaffing, and my bits as well, and so I asked him what the best product out there was. I very much doubt there is any real "science" to this concept, and if there ever is, it will debunk the marketing gimmicks that our trending for "compression". But I swear by Under Armer compression hot weather shorts for running and working out, but only for the dreaded chaff, oh, and also for keeping everything in place. It's like manna from heaven for chaffing.

The only other use I have found for "compression" products are the ones sold for cold weather riding, for a base layer when layering up. It's also like spanks or something, and makes my flabby upper body feel more, um, shall we say; firm? So, bonus.

[jaypee]

This probably doesn't warrant its own thread so I'm posting this here where the sporty types may be able to help out.....Compression pants, such as 'skins', '2XU', etc; is their any real science behind their efficacy when riding/running or exercising and as a recovery aid?

 I used them when I went to bed after I really managed to over do it and it didn't take long to feel a lot less sore.  The problem is; I can't find much in the way of credible research telling me that these things actually do to much.

I did a cursory glance for any real science behind the concept too, after my super athlete brother suggested compression shorts for running. The problem I was having was thigh chaffing, and my bits as well, and so I asked him what the best product out there was. I very much doubt any real "science" to this concept, and see it as a marketing gimmick that's trending. But I swear by Under Armer compression hot weather shorts for running and working out, but only for the dreaded chaff. It's like manna from heaven for chaffing.

The only other use I have found for "compression" products are the ones sold for cold weather riding, for a base layer when layering up. It's also like spanks or something, and makes my flabby upper body feel more, um, shall we say; firm? So, bonus.

Yeah, I have two compression shirts. I don't think they make me any less fatigued, but they do girdle my fat a little bit while being a perfect base layer as they wick sweat really well and don't make me too hot.

[Cognoscento]

This probably doesn't warrant its own thread so I'm posting this here where the sporty types may be able to help out.....Compression pants, such as 'skins', '2XU', etc; is their any real science behind their efficacy when riding/running or exercising and as a recovery aid?

 I used them when I went to bed after I really managed to over do it and it didn't take long to feel a lot less sore.  The problem is; I can't find much in the way of credible research telling me that these things actually do to much.

There are endless debates on this very subject on the triathlon forums.  I've used compression sleeves both for racing and recovery.
There is research that supports the recovery claims made by the manufacturers of compression gear :
www.jssm.org/vol5/n1/12/v5n1-12pdf.pd

However there is nothing yet that definitively shows how wearing compression gear during exercise reduces fatigue.  That being said, I've worn compression sleeves on my legs both during and after endurance races and in my N=1 experience, they work.  During a long run, the constant jiggling of my muscles contributes to my overall sense of fatigue. However, when I wear compression sleeves, everything is held in place much better and I really notice it. It's hard to explain but they make me feel like my legs are "firing" more quickly with each stride.  It could very well be placebo or the fact that in triathlete culture it's the "cool" thing to wear.  A lot of times I'll notice that if I "look" fast, I am fast.  Who knows....


Speaking of endurance races - tomorrow I go again into the jaws of the beast.  The Leadman Triathlon.  The terrain is challenging enough and the water will be a bit chilly (56*F) but I am really worried about the forecasted 30-40mph sustained winds with gusts up to 60mph!!    Wish me luck!

2011 LeadmanTri Life Time Epic 250

Whoops - my link to the research didn't work.  Try this (it's a PDF document):
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CFoQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jssm.org%2Fvol5%2Fn1%2F12%2Fv5n1-12pdf.pdf&ei=IuF1T_2JEcTi2QXVyY2nDQ&usg=AFQjCNFpD_iZzmRlZotKTQlRyryZZpCj9Q&sig2=-ZIBbWDcyBSYkV8j3cbRFw

[Swagomatic]

My wife and I went to Vegas last week for 0ur 26th anniversary, and we brought our bikes (pretty romantic, eh?).  I had no idea where to ride, but I brought a laptop with, and searched online.  I just  happened to semi-randomly pick an awesome bike ride.  There is a course  called the Red Rock Canyon bike trail - it is mostly dedicated bike lanes all the way.  I had my mountain bike with me, but this trail is better-suited to a road bike.  Anyway, it was great.  There was a lot of steady climbing in the first half, but it was very manageable.  The ride back was a downhill cruise of biking sweetness.  We went on Wednesday afternoon, and there were quite a few bike riders out there.  I was kind of surprised.  Here's a link to the route: Biking Las Vegas


The next day, we returned to the Red Rock Canyon wilderness area for some great hiking.  It's only $7.00 for an all-day pass.  If you hit Vegas, I highly recommend a visit to this area.  It is very cool.  And if you can't bring your bike, make sure you bring your hiking boots.

Cogno:  Good luck in the tri.

[WC]

Cog's been documenting Red Rock http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,30987.msg9190579.html#msg9190579 and some other posts previously

[Swagomatic]

Cog's been documenting Red Rock http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,30987.msg9190579.html#msg9190579 and some other posts previously

That's cool, I've been lurking in this thread, but I haven't read every post.   He posted that on the 23rd, we rode our bikes on the 21st, and went hiking on the 22nd.   

That area is amazing, and it is so close to Vegas it's scary.