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DK:
Saw this idea from someone on Twitter this morning and I had to agree with it.

(click to show/hide)The Hulk/Loki scene is the 21st century version of Indy/sword-wielding guy from Raiders.

Holden Attradies:
(click to show/hide)I was stunned that they killed Colsan!  My guess is he'll be back some how, being he's been pretty popular.  How could would it be if he was back as Vision?
Also how many people caught that the Chitari were in fact (click to show/hide)Skrull?  It's their name in the Ultimate universe, I figure they did it this way due to the original name being tied in to the FF rights which another studio has.

David E.:
It would be nice if Marvel could just buy the rights to their shit back from Fox.

GodSlayer:

--- Quote from: Caffiene on May 07, 2012, 12:39:30 AM ---Lets try again... You said that superman looked defeated, just like batman looked dead. Moloch responded by saying that the author states that batman faked his death but the idea that superman faked his defeat is only from your imagination. "Assertion that Superman was doing likewise" means "assertion that Superman was faking his defeat", using your own terminology that Superman looking defeated is like Batman looking dead.

--- End quote ---

batman looked dead, superman participated in maintaining that illusion
superman looked defeated, batman participated in creating that illusion.

if batman had actually deserved to die and tried to kill superman, superman could've just killed him rather than letting him fake his death. if superman was happy for batman to merely retire, they could cooperate to stage this whole display where people would think batman died--where so hurt was superman that it couldn't possibly be believed by onlookers that he was just playing along, though he was since he knew he was in no real danger.
it's unlikely that Batman knew he might die for being batman, but only became willing to retire from a heart attack, as though he'd never been close to death and had to evaluate his priorities before.
it's also unlikely that superman would attack Batman while Batman was awake and wearing a giant suit of armour. but if he was to do this, it's more likely he'd use heat-vision to burn Batman to death from a safe distance in the air, rather than come even close enough to the ground to risk contact with kryptonite (if he was not on good terms with Batman, he had to assume that Batman, like Lex Luther, might carry around some Kryptonite).
Batman even made a big 'I'm saying something to someone who is about to be dead' speech as though an arrogant asshole, or a complete moron, or just acting and emphasizing the lie he wants the audience to buy. pretty cliche... 'I hate you', 'I hate you, too'...'d'you think they bought it?', 'yea, now they'll never suspect we're having an affair'. Instead of being a psychopath and taking pleasure in his suffering, just get Mr Archer to fire more Kryptonite into him when you get the upper hand and end the fight ASAP. ... does Batman lack forethought?

Neither person's actions make any sense except under the hypothesis that the whole fight was staged, superman getting what he wanted (no more Batman vigilante action), Batman getting what he wanted (no more people shitting on him).

GodSlayer:

--- Quote from: Moloch on May 07, 2012, 12:31:17 AM ---Superman only realized Batman's plan at the funeral. During the fight Superman tried his hardest, and was completely unaware of Batman's plot.

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if he tried his, hardest Batman would've died in his sleep. Superman could drop a jumbo jet on Batman's house if he wanted to. he's not limited to hand-to-hand combat that runs the risk of Kryptonite being introduced.

if you're forced to contrive a happy ending for childish readers, you could do some dreadful writing and make Superman do dumb things, but this hardly settles the matter.

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