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Offline Beleth

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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2011, 09:36:18 PM »
Beleth: does this mean that people are free to use racial epithets, slurs, and code-words when not directed at another forum member?

If you're not sure, don't do it.
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #106 on: August 30, 2011, 09:37:36 PM »
Beleth: does this mean that people are free to use racial epithets, slurs, and code-words when not directed at another forum member?

If you're not sure, don't do it.


That is not an answer to my question.
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #107 on: August 30, 2011, 09:45:21 PM »
It is the answer I always give to rules-lawyer questions like that.
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #108 on: August 30, 2011, 09:46:25 PM »
I stand by my opinions, but behind the mods' and panel's decision.

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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #109 on: August 30, 2011, 09:48:18 PM »
Honestly, it really is basically an impossible question to answer.  There are what? 200 regular posters here?  I bet there would be 200 or more different answers as to what constituted some of those things..
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #110 on: August 30, 2011, 10:02:17 PM »
Im disappointed about what isnt mentioned.

I cant help but read this as essentially saying that off-topic spam is an approved activity.
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #111 on: August 30, 2011, 10:15:34 PM »
This is incredibly frustrating.  I am not trying to play a game of "gotcha."  I just want to know how the moderators of this forum are going to deal with people calling people of other races and ethnicities "chimps" or "animals" or "culturally inferior" or "savages," things they would not be allowed to call me or any other poster.  I don't think that's an unreasonable question, and I think I deserve more than a glib one-sentence dismissal.
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #112 on: August 30, 2011, 11:27:58 PM »
Not really, no, you don't. No offense, but "we'll take it as it comes" and "if you have to ask, you've probably gone too far" are perfectly reasonable lines in the sand for determining who is an unrepentant troll and who isn't.
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #113 on: August 31, 2011, 12:07:33 AM »
I'm glad the mods give leeway like that. Judging each post in context is more important than laying out strict rules for people to throw at each other.
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #114 on: August 31, 2011, 10:50:16 AM »
This is incredibly frustrating.  I am not trying to play a game of "gotcha."  I just want to know how the moderators of this forum are going to deal with people calling people of other races and ethnicities "chimps" or "animals" or "culturally inferior" or "savages," things they would not be allowed to call me or any other poster.  I don't think that's an unreasonable question, and I think I deserve more than a glib one-sentence dismissal.

I realize that it sounds like a glib dismissal, and I apologize for the layer of bad will that covered it.  But it really is what I mean.

If you wouldn't say it to your mom, or to your kindergarten teacher, or to Dr. Novella, or to a reporter from a well-respected media outlet, don't say it here.  Where you draw that line is up to you.  Where other people draw that line is up to them.

Where I draw that line on the forum for potential sanctioning is best summed up by the old adage "never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity."  Stupidity has to be allowed; otherwise, there'd be no opportunity for educational growth.  When I think someone's crossed the line from stupidity into malice, like Straws Pulled At Random did, then they get sanctioned.  I don't think I can make it less subjective than that, but I hope that it at least doesn't sound glib any more.
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #115 on: August 31, 2011, 10:56:38 AM »

Where I draw that line on the forum for potential sanctioning is best summed up by the old adage "never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity."

I always liked this quote. I know an author who signs all his emails on a fan mailing list with it, a reminder that some emails are just stupids.

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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #116 on: August 31, 2011, 11:39:48 AM »
Hanlon's Razor they call it.
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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #117 on: August 31, 2011, 12:19:45 PM »
Hanlon's Razor they call it.

I am officially renaming it Beleth's Blunderbuss

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Re: Racism on the forums
« Reply #118 on: August 31, 2011, 12:35:23 PM »
Hanlon's Razor they call it.

I am officially renaming it Beleth's Blunderbuss

I'll alert the media.
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