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AAAHRG!! The new Pope will likely embrace Intelligent Design
« Reply #15 on: Sep 20, 2006, 05:38:41 PM »
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"There are lots of people in this world that would rather have a literal religious text, something they can just follow and not think. Fundamentalist religions are make major inroads into the third world, the catholic's traditional stomping ground. Ever since the church gave up the "liberation theology" thing that seemed to offer people a promise of a better temporal life, the church has been losing numbers fast. The alternative in the last decade seemed to be "just shut up and say your prayers and we'll see."

I think you are right mindme that is why Islam is on the rise. It is very cut and dry you do this and that and you will get your rewards. There are loop holes but the Sharia spells it out for you. Now is'nt Judaism the same way?
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 20, 2006, 07:49:42 PM »
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Now is'nt Judaism the same way?


It is but it doesn't have an ethic of converting nonbelievers like Christianity and Islam. You never hear of Jewish missionaries. You never hear of Rabbi Scheinerman Among the Iroquois or stuff like that. Neither do you hear much of Hindus going hog wild trying to convert people. Certainly both kill in the name of their religion but they don't present you a convert or die option.

Christianity certainly had a long period of conversion by the sword. I would argue secularism is the reason Christian churches no longer unleash such blood baths, although if you look at some recent examples where Christianity was tied to the ruling government, you got modern day blood baths. For example, the Serbs and Croats both believed they were doing god's will and their actions were being blessed by their local religious authorities.

In Rwanda you had Catholic priests helping people slaughter tutsi or whoever seeking sanctuary right in the church.

And didn't Bush claim he talked to god and god told him to invade Iraq. To free the people. Of course.
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« Reply #17 on: Sep 20, 2006, 10:58:28 PM »
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Now is'nt Judaism the same way?


It is but it doesn't have an ethic of converting nonbelievers like Christianity and Islam. You never hear of Jewish missionaries. You never hear of Rabbi Scheinerman Among the Iroquois or stuff like that. Neither do you hear much of Hindus going hog wild trying to convert people. Certainly both kill in the name of their religion but they don't present you a convert or die option.


Judaism actually discourages conversion because of certain idiosyncracies in Jewish Law.  It's easier for non-Jews to gain "salvation" if they stay non-Jews and follow basic ethical behavior.

Modern Judaism (70 A.D. - present) has rarely, if ever, condoned killing in the name of religion.  I would argue that the advent of violent religious-Jewish extremism is a relatively recent and isolated phenomenon.

Of course the ancient Judean civilization was very violent during certain periods but as far as I know, the archeological details are sketchy.
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