Topic: Steven Novella on Prime Time Sports!

[James]

My podcast worlds are colliding!  I listen to the sports talk radio channel The Fan 590 AM and if I miss my favourite show- Prime Time Sports with Bob McCown, I go online and listen to the archived podcasts.  Imagine my surprise when Dr. Novella was listed as a guest on the show.  He was on discussing NHL superstar Sidney Crosby's concussion and the fact that he is seeing a chiropractic neurologist?! whatever that is.  I had heard this latest development in Crosby's ongoing medical problems and thought about starting a thread asking just what the hell a chiro-neuro could possibly be.

It's a shame all the millions of dollars Crosby has and access to the best doctors and advisors in the world and this is the path they are choosing for him.  Dr. Novella is the first guest on the show and they don't refer to him as a skeptic until the end of the interview  and even then its just briefly mentioned, which is good as we all know some people equate skeptic with cynic.  He's on for about 20 minutes and you can hear him here.

[amysrevenge]

That was pretty cool - thanks for the link.

(They never did use the 's' word, they do use "debunker". Unless they bring it up again after the break - I didn't listen on to the heartwarming story of kids/Africa/baseball.))

[superdave]

clearly the best part of this was the intro music.

[Grimner]

So I voluntarily listened to 'sports'. Clearly pigs are flying somewhere.
Pretty good - surprised at how the two commentators seemed to get it.

Yeah, what was that music - the child of Airwolf and Terminator?

[Shibboleth]

So I am a avid Pens fan and on the Pens discussion board there was just a heated conversation about this topic.

[random poet]

haha. That's funny. I catch that show on Sportsnet (this is a sports TV station) from time to time. They film these guys while they are on the air – during their radio show – and put it on TV. It's really strange.

The hosts were surprisingly understanding and receptive! Kind of refreshing. Sure is different than that time Steve was on the Dr. Oz show.

Good job!

[npoeschek]

That was surprisingly good, you never know what you are going to get from a sports show. Sports is full of magical thinking and superstition, so it was nice to hear the hosts giving him plenty of time to make his points and generally agreeing with him. I was also half expecting them to lead off with Steve, then bring on a chiro afterwards to get the last word.

[Shibboleth]

So this is a smaller thread on the topic. There was a longer thread that got really heated but I figured I would share. Please do not go to the message board and bombard it with non-hockey talk. I just figured people would find it interesting.

http://fans.penguins.nhl.com/community/topic/12182-sids-chiropractor-dr-carrick-is-fraude/

[James]

That was pretty cool - thanks for the link.

(They never did use the 's' word, they do use "debunker". Unless they bring it up again after the break - I didn't listen on to the heartwarming story of kids/Africa/baseball.))

That's true, they never did actually say he was a skeptic, although being a debunker can also be seen as a negative by some people as is the case with cynic.  The topic wasn't brought up again on the show, other than thanking Dr. Steven Novella for being on the show.

I think Steven gave a very fair assessment of chiropractics, and provided me with a good way of explaining to people what they actually are.  It's a hard one to explain to people that know very little about the field,  it's based on absolute nonsense but has evolved into  semi-legit massage therapy.  Crosby suffers from concussion related symptoms which has nothing to do with chiro.  He probably should ne seeing a real neurologist, like Steve 

[amysrevenge]

Crosby suffers from concussion related symptoms which has nothing to do with chiro.  He probably should ne seeing a real neurologist, like Steve

Well, I assume he has been seeing real doctors all along, and this is seen as just another tool in the box. 

I can see the appeal, if you know about as much about chiro as a typical person does.  And, for otherwise clever people who haven't really had to think about such things before, "what's the harm" is a perfectly reasonable first response.  It's only upon deeper study that you can find out the harm.

[Willard]

Has anyone read the link provided by "Dorf-on-Hockey"? I'll post it here;
http://www.bolenreport.com/feature_articles/Doctor%27s-Data-v-Barrett/moneytrail.htm

I've never heard of the Bolen Report. It's quack gold!

[drizz]

Seriously how does that program still have that music...actually, how did it ever have that music? Bob McCown is a fool.

[James]

The music gets your attention, and its a sports show- who cares about music.  Oh, and Bobcat's no fool he knows his shit, even his hockey which is rare for an American

[random poet]

The music gets your attention, and its a sports show- who cares about music.  Oh, and Bobcat's no fool he knows his shit, even his hockey which is rare for an American

Sorry but this isn't "get your attention" music. This "laugh out loud stupid" music that just ... keeps going, oblivious, even after it's dug its own hole, clambered down it, then poured the dirt back on top. It is pathetic and funny in repeating 10-second intervals. Whoever wrote it is either the worst musician ever, or the greatest genius; kind of like the guy playing flute on the metro that seems to manage to play completely random notes, never hitting on a melody, let alone following it.

The rest of the show is fine, as you describe. But I still don't see why they thought filming a radio show and putting it on TV would be a good idea. Howard Stern notwithstanding.