Topic: World Renown Heart Surgeon Speaks Out On What Really Causes Heart Disease

[Tatyana]

I'd rather eat all the disgustingly unhealthy stuff I like and live happily for 65 years than eat a bunch of stuff I don't like, that may have some health benefit, so that I have the chance to live unhappily for 75 years. That doesn't sound like a good trade-off to me.

Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Depending on just how unhealthy your diet is it's unlikely you'll make it to 65.

Yeah, that is not what a lot of the emerging science is saying.

For those people who had good nutrition in utero and in early infancy, and good genes, it doesn't appear to make a lot of difference what their diet is.

There is a huge amount of research done on pre-term infants:

Long-Term Programming Effects of Early Nutrition — Implications for the Preterm Infant
http://www.nature.com/jp/journal/v25/n2s/full/7211308a.html

You may also want to look into 'Barker hypothesis' or Thrifty phenotype.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barker%27s_hypothesis

All of this is related to epigenetics, which is also a very interesting area of study.

[Citizen Skeptic]

I'd rather eat all the disgustingly unhealthy stuff I like and live happily for 65 years than eat a bunch of stuff I don't like, that may have some health benefit, so that I have the chance to live unhappily for 75 years. That doesn't sound like a good trade-off to me.

Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Depending on just how unhealthy your diet is it's unlikely you'll make it to 65.

But I'm going to die happy. Who wants to be a decrepid old man anyway?

My dad eats worse than I do and he's 82, and happy. It's all about the genes.

[lonely moa]

I'd rather eat all the disgustingly unhealthy stuff I like and live happily for 65 years than eat a bunch of stuff I don't like, that may have some health benefit, so that I have the chance to live unhappily for 75 years. That doesn't sound like a good trade-off to me.

Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Depending on just how unhealthy your diet is it's unlikely you'll make it to 65.

But I'm going to die happy. Who wants to be a decrepid old man anyway?

My dad eats worse than I do and he's 82, and happy. It's all about the genes.

I think luck is more important than genes, myself.  I have two close friends that are my age or younger and doing the final countdown. 

My wife's folks are in the Exit Australia and have the peaceful pill.  I'll get mine soon.

[Citizen Skeptic]

Yeah, it's part luck of the draw too. My wife always used to tell me I was going to go first. Not just diet, but lifestyle too. I gave up the lifestyle but I'm not giving up steaks, burgers, cheese, fried anything, and caffeine.

I hope it's a long time before the happy pill. It's something we should copy from you.

[EhJayArr]

Always good to read your posts, Tatyana--thanks for the info.

[lonely moa]

One of the reasons I am sceptical of the food plate, AKA food pyramid.

The McGovern Report

[Citizen Skeptic]

I remember the food pyramid. I even remember an eat healthy day when I was in the 3rd/4th grade in the 60's. What I remember most is how bad the good stuff tasted and how good the bad stuff tasted. I couldn't wait to get back to the peanut butter and jelly and bologna sandwiches.

[jaypee]

I'd rather eat all the disgustingly unhealthy stuff I like and live happily for 65 years than eat a bunch of stuff I don't like, that may have some health benefit, so that I have the chance to live unhappily for 75 years. That doesn't sound like a good trade-off to me.

65 is getting a bit too close to the bone for me.  I think I can do a healthy 80 and get killed in an avalanche skiing powder.  Anyway, I swallowed the kool-aid years ago and gave up the crap food for unlimited meat, vegies, red wine and BUTTER.

I'm with you guys. I'll either die happy at 65 or die happy at 100.

[Citizen Skeptic]

I'd rather eat all the disgustingly unhealthy stuff I like and live happily for 65 years than eat a bunch of stuff I don't like, that may have some health benefit, so that I have the chance to live unhappily for 75 years. That doesn't sound like a good trade-off to me.

65 is getting a bit too close to the bone for me.  I think I can do a healthy 80 and get killed in an avalanche skiing powder.  Anyway, I swallowed the kool-aid years ago and gave up the crap food for unlimited meat, vegies, red wine and BUTTER.

I'm with you guys. I'll either die happy at 65 or die happy at 100.

My fantasy going out with a bang scenario is standing on the cornice at Mammoth Mountain ready to leap, and just as I push off, Mammoth errupts and launches me into space. What a way to go!

Oh, and for breakfast that morning I had the usual pre-ski breakfast of aspirin, beer, and scrambled eggs and bacon. Yum. Not only tasty, but totally therapeutic for old knees and getting the rhythm going.

[lonely moa]

I'd rather eat all the disgustingly unhealthy stuff I like and live happily for 65 years than eat a bunch of stuff I don't like, that may have some health benefit, so that I have the chance to live unhappily for 75 years. That doesn't sound like a good trade-off to me.

65 is getting a bit too close to the bone for me.  I think I can do a healthy 80 and get killed in an avalanche skiing powder.  Anyway, I swallowed the kool-aid years ago and gave up the crap food for unlimited meat, vegies, red wine and BUTTER.

I'm with you guys. I'll either die happy at 65 or die happy at 100.

My fantasy going out with a bang scenario is standing on the cornice at Mammoth Mountain ready to leap, and just as I push off, Mammoth errupts and launches me into space. What a way to go!

Oh, and for breakfast that morning I had the usual pre-ski breakfast of aspirin, beer, and scrambled eggs and bacon. Yum. Not only tasty, but totally therapeutic for old knees and getting the rhythm going.

Always start the day with a good breakfast.