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Offline Obsequious

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Posted by a conspiracy theorist on Facebook just now:



I didn't put this in my "Brainless things people say on Facebook" thread because I don't know whether it's BS or not. I have my suspicions, though...

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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #1 on: Apr 07, 2012, 07:33:58 AM »
Wiktionary:
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From Middle English governement, from Old French governement (French gouvernement), from Latin gubernatio (“management, government”), from Ancient Greek κυβερνισμός (kubernismos), κυβέρνησις (kubernēsis, “steering, pilotage, guiding”), from κυβερνάω (kubernaō, “I steer, drive, guide, pilot”) + -ment.
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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #2 on: Apr 07, 2012, 07:45:38 AM »
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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #3 on: Apr 07, 2012, 07:50:28 AM »
In addition to what the wiki says about the etymology - even if the two latin words did mean what the image says, does the conjunction of them translate in that way?

It could be "to control the mind".
Or it could be "the mind controls", or "to control with the mind".

We could a translation that means something equivalent to "to control with intelligence as opposed to controlling by force" which fits the two supposed latin translated words just as well... but somehow it seems much less threatening.
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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #4 on: Apr 07, 2012, 08:30:36 AM »
Here's another etymology from the blog The Cotton Ceiling.

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Cis. We’ve all heard it. Most women find the word offensive. Perhaps it’s because at some subconscious level women know there’s something creepy about the word? They’d be right. “Cis” comes from the Latin root meaning to “cut” or “kill.”

With this is mind, what do trans really mean when they call women cis-women or cis-females or cis-lesbians? They are literally saying, “cut and kill women/females/lesbians.”

I guess we now know what the trans agenda really is. Yet some women continue to believe trans are harmless and can be women’s/lesbian allies and should be welcome in women-only space. Get a clue already, k? Jack the Ripper is not your friend, your ally or harmless. By calling you “cis,” Jack has literally stated he wants to cut and kill you. So, are you still thinking about rolling out the welcome mat for all those Jacks out there?

A bit of explanation - some radical feminists do not consider trans women to be women, and say that if a trans woman has sex with a lesbian without disclosing her trans status this is rape. This systematic discrimination has been called "the Cotton Ceiling", referring to the Glass Ceiling and cotton underwear. And since radical feminists are a small community who see themselves as assailed from all sides, they have come up with all kinds of strange conspiracy theories. This post unites the two in a lovely and harmonious marriage.

Apparently when dietists speak about 'cis fats' they are planning a genocide on the obese. Good to know.
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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #5 on: Apr 07, 2012, 09:07:35 AM »
I guess I can kinda see how that relates to my OP, but if your beef is with feminism, I've gotta say I've observed a lot more bullshit coming from anti-feminists than I've seen coming from feminists.

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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #6 on: Apr 07, 2012, 03:36:32 PM »
Ah, yes. I agree with feminists most of the time but these are the small insane subset of feminists. Their relationship to other feminists is like the WBC's relationship to mainstream Christianity.
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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #7 on: Apr 07, 2012, 04:34:06 PM »
Just for a bit more info on why the "mind control" translation is wrong -

The 'ment' in 'government' has nothing to do with Latin 'mens' - it's a suffix that's hanged on to verbs to make a noun with a meaning related to the verb. Here's more than you ever wanted to know about the suffix, courtesy of the OED:

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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #8 on: Apr 07, 2012, 04:40:41 PM »
So once again, something that somebody shared and re-shared on Facebook turned out to be bullshit.

Can we pass a federal law that all FB posts must be fact-checked?

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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #9 on: Apr 07, 2012, 06:45:24 PM »
So once again, something that somebody shared and re-shared on Facebook turned out to be bullshit.

Can we pass a federal law that all FB posts must be fact-checked?

Perhaps we could ask for a  civil fine, with proceeds going to support the promotion of skeptical thinking, including the SGU.  :D

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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #10 on: Apr 07, 2012, 07:06:09 PM »
Posted by a conspiracy theorist on Facebook just now:

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from the modern English "facepalm" and the verb "book" (as in, in a sane world, we could book 'em, Danno, for posting dumb shit like that.  Or smack 'em upside the head with a large book, or make 'em actually, like, read one for a change, or something.)

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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #11 on: Apr 07, 2012, 07:25:19 PM »
The idiocy on Facebook is virtually infinite. 


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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #12 on: Apr 07, 2012, 08:04:53 PM »
Reminds of a Louis CK clip about the etymology of the word "faggot". It's fake, people like to try their hand at etymology without actually doing the work. This apparently constitutes meaningful discourse now, where people can ignore all the content of someone's article, accept that they didn't mean a word in an inappropriate way, but still be chastised for using certain words. Fake etymology aside, the root of the problem needs to be solved, people need to grow up.

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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #13 on: Apr 07, 2012, 09:10:39 PM »
The original thing sounds like something that nut in Arizona who shot the Representative would be saying, with his 'language controls the mind' thing....
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Re: Do the Latin root words of "Government" mean "mind control?"
« Reply #14 on: Apr 07, 2012, 11:29:13 PM »
The irony of this image is that the word idiot is derived from a Greek root word that means "private individual" or "private" according to Wikipedia.

 

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