Topic: JREF involved in "cognitive infiltration"

[Chew]

Give him a break. Those BB bold tags are really tricky.

Oh, wait. No, they're not.

[Johnny Slick]

Give me a               break, now I know
    what it   takes, showin' the
whole

world, nothin' can get me down      .

Mmmm Hmmmm

[truthbadger]

Perhaps it's time to take your medication, hmm?

What brings you by? Are a you professional diversion/fake skeptic/consumer of my time?

Do you have something of value to pass along, but instead take more pride in keeping it hidden from other humans?

[pandamonium]

Perhaps it's time to take your medication, hmm?

What brings you by? Are a you professional diversion/fake skeptic/consumer of my time?

Do you have something of value to pass along, but instead take more pride in keeping it hidden from other humans?

if you stick around long enough, you'll figure out that Johnny has no pride.

And don't dodge my question--who is JP Grothe?

[David E.]

Perhaps it's time to take your medication, hmm?

What brings you by? Are a you professional diversion/fake skeptic/consumer of my time?

Do you have something of value to pass along, but instead take more pride in keeping it hidden from other humans?

if you stick around long enough, you'll figure out that Johnny has no pride.

And don't dodge my question--who is JP Grothe?

DJ's Evil Brother? 

[truthbadger]

Do you have something of value to pass along, but instead take more pride in keeping it hidden from other humans?
[/quote]if you stick around long enough, you'll figure out that Johnny has no pride.

And don't dodge my question--who is JP Grothe?
[/quote]

JP is the President of Thee James Randi Educational Foundation aka Cass Sunstein School For Illuminated Wizardry

And Johnny has already demonstrated his complete lack of pride...psssst...tell me quietly...does he get even worse?

Not dodging sir....just missed that one...my bad.

[truthbadger]

or DJ, whatever, oops

[drizz]

or DJ, whatever, oops

I take it you were so busy studying his evil that you glossed over the name?

[truthbadger]

JP Grothe.

Who?

JP, DJ, DP, JD, Grothe....one of them

[truthbadger]

or DJ, whatever, oops

I take it you were so busy studying his evil that you glossed over the name?

You should drive home this point that I confused the first two initials in name of a fool. Perhaps you will prove me to be the idiot with this discovery of the error I will never recover from? Pounce on me quick...blood in the water.....

[drwfishesman]

I knew you were the same Robert Hanson from DJ's post. I figured if I posted something about you, it wouldn't be long before your urges to engage would get the best of you and I would hear from you sooner or later. I still contend that you have some mental issues that need addressing after reading your blog and seeing the email you sent Greg Gutfeld and the exchange you had with DJ Grothe at JREF. I hope you're sincere about playing nice. I will if you will.

[Eternally Learning]

Hey truthbadger, I read through your latest blog post about all this as well as DJ's post.  Being an equally skeptical person I thought (skeptically of course) that perhaps your considerable skepticality had overlooked some other, perhaps more likely explanations for some of the damning evidence your skeptical inquiry had pulled up about the matter at hand.

First and foremost, it has been my experience that the vast majority of people in the skeptical community (i.e. those who associate with the likes of the JREF, the SGU, and so on) do in fact believe, that the theories of so-called 9-11 truthers are incorrect and potentially harmful.

Secondly, as you attempted to join the JREF forum yourself you are clearly aware that one does not need to be a memeber of or even informally involved with the JREF to post there.  Being as James Randi has been referred to as one of the fathers of the modern skeptical movement, it should come as no surprise that the forum which officially bears his name should attract a vast number of people in the skeptical community.

Thirdly (and to connect the first two points), my skeptical deductions (learned from my many years of skepticaling in one manner or another) have led me to tentatively conclude that it makes imminently more sense to believe that there simply happens to be a considerable overlap between those who post in the JREF forums, and those post comments elsewhere which are negative about 9-11 conspiracy theories. 

Furthermore, the linking of every single bit of data you've shared or implied you have to the federal government has not even been attempted by you; merely asserted repeatedly. 

There is plenty more that I could skeptically comment on had I the skeptical time available to me, but unfortunately I do not.  Additionally, my innate skepticism leads me to believe that the above skeptical points about this matter are in fact the most pertinent.  I'm skeptically interested in hearing what skeptical response you will come back with.  So long for now bruthtadger.

-EL

[Eternally Learning]

JP Grothe.

Who?

JP, DJ, DP, JD, Grothe....one of them

Actually, in your blog you called him JP Grohle as well.  Being a Foo Fighters fan (and despite the incorrect spelling), I got a nice kick out of it.

[Louie]

Now, I know that poking a crazy with a stick can be immense fun. O, to see him pacing his padded cell, the white froth of deluded indignation dribbling down his chin, his eyes darting to and fro like marbles set whizzing down the sides of a bowl. This is why I won't ask you to leave him alone. But please, if you've gone a-pokin', don't shower us with reports of his - undoubtedly mental - responses.

An alternative course of action could of course be not responding to him and letting him work out his current psychosis in a vacuum. 

Louie
3rd generation moderator
5th generation fucking chickenhawk spineless weak cowardly little man

[truthbadger]

JP Grothe.

Who?

JP, DJ, DP, JD, Grothe....one of them

Actually, in your blog you called him JP Grohle as well.  Being a Foo Fighters fan (and despite the incorrect spelling), I got a nice kick out of it.

Yeah, I noticed that too, I fixed most of them. I may owe JP Morgan Chase too much money, perhaps I'm villian-initial flip-flopping as a reflex. I appear to use a 65/35 mix of DJ's and JP's. I hope to improve this ratio as time goes on.

I forget what you wrote already. I must break it into parts or I lose my thoughts (this could be the best result for me)<--beatu2it

"First and foremost, it has been my experience that the vast majority of people in the skeptical community (i.e. those who associate with the likes of the JREF, the SGU, and so on) do in fact believe, that the theories of so-called 9-11 truthers are incorrect and potentially harmful."

Yeah, no shit, so give me some credit for hanging out in this den of vipers. There are much easier places/ways to spend my time and mental energy. What is so potentially harmful about 911 truthers? Do we threaten the stability and reputation of the government that takes care of us and keeps us safe?

This is like falsely lead 911truth skeptics continuously telling me 2+2=5. Never, ever, ever, am I going to flip flop on this, so debating it makes no sense if you are trying to convince me otherwise. Do I want to know 911 was planned ahead of time...hell no, but I do. If this sets me up for extra doses of the typical 911 twoofas are deranged lunatics gibberish, it only discredits the intellect on your side of the 911 skepticism.

"Furthermore, the linking of every single bit of data you've shared or implied you have to the federal government has not even been attempted by you; merely asserted repeatedly."

So would you recommend keeping our outstanding forecast a secret? Why would I bother being kind enough to point out the obvious future troubles for DJ/JP Grohle and Co? Knowing I am going to be hated by those that I initially wanted to help, I still gave them an opportunity to fix the problem before they transformed me into a messenger to they had to destroy.

As for tying this directly to the federal government...you have some serious lofty expectations. This penny ante operation has been up and running for only a couple weeks. Consider this the start of our start. Allow some government timing reality...IE: NIST released its final report on the causes of the collapse of 7 World Trade Center in November 2008.

"..as you attempted to join the JREF forum yourself you are clearly aware that one does not need to be a memeber of or even informally involved with the JREF to post there."

I get the feeling you are just feeling me out and trying to get more information from me than I care to share right now. If you expect me to present to you a finished case file full of evidence to improve my credibility with you...I can't. I'm a peon worker bee just like you.

"There is plenty more that I could skeptically comment on..."

Yeah, me too. Unfortunately, creating never ending debates has become a trendy. Using foresight to prevent future problems is still very unpopular.

Why solve problems when it is so much easier to magnify mine?

I don't mind the battle, beat me up real good, send me out of this forum as an illuminated 911twoofa idiot convert that blindly trusts our government.  I only wish you could.

I'm skeptically interested in hearing what skeptical response you will come back with as well!