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Vegan, we are not grizzly bears

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David "Stubb" Oswald:
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/04/17/is-veganism-good-for-everyone/we-are-not-grizzly-bears

New York Times had a serious of editorials about veganism and this was one. I really don't want to turn this into a meat vs plant based diet argument topic (which I am sure it will become) but I found this one editorial to be terrible. The author uses grizzly bears as an example of omnivore, then describes how we don't have claws and get sick from raw meat. So we are not grizzly bears and since grizzly bears are omnivores, we are herbivores.

I will start things off. I have ate the raw heart from a pronghorn antelope minutes after it was killed (by me) I did not get sick. I think we can digest raw meat and get the nutrition from it.

341gerbig:
It is a badly formed argument from an author who is either confused or grasping for straws.

nothing more

Chew:

--- Quote ---eating raw animal flesh usually makes us sick
--- End quote ---

Little known fact: 18 million Japanese get sick everyday after eating sushi.

WC:

lonely moa:
Grizzleys can go for maybe 6 months without eating anything but their own fat.  I've got less than the theoretical 30,000 calories stored, wouldn't work for me.

I think she mentioned gorrillas as well.  Our guts are about a third as long and our mandibles are no longer able to do the chewing they do. Poor comparison.

Dr Wrangham has put this in the best evolutionary terms, IMHO.  One does get more nutrition from cooked meat and it does have other advantages, but it is a tasty treat raw in the proper contest.

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