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Vegan, we are not grizzly bears

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lonely moa:
Actually, cattle get most, nearly all, of their energy from fat.  Those bacteria in their stomachs and intestines digest the grass and the product of that metabolism is fat.  We don't have the same alimentary architecture or bacteria, but we aren't that different... but probably more similar to other mammilian omnivores, like bears.

GodSlayer:

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--- Quote from: lonely moa on Apr 19, 2012, 12:42:37 AM ---Grizzleys can go for maybe 6 months without eating anything but their own fat.

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how do they eat their own fat?


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Same way anyone does.  If one alters their body composition to have less body fat, that adipose tissue is metabolilsed.  The human body likes to hang onto this emergency store of food and has several (hormonal) ways to keep it, like downregulating your metabolism when you starve yourself (go on a "diet") or make you hungry when your most recent meal has been metabolised and stored.

Grizzzly bears might be quite insensitive to insulin during the feeding season so they can store fat.

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literalist joke fail :(

excuse me while I have sex with my own dick.

khendar:

--- Quote from: David "Stubb" Oswald on Apr 18, 2012, 09:30:26 PM ---I will start things off. I have ate the raw heart from a pronghorn antelope minutes after it was killed (by me) I did not get sick. I think we can digest raw meat and get the nutrition from it.

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I had a steak tartare with raw Angus beef slivers and a truffle dressing the other day...I'm not saying its EXACTLY the same thing..but still.

GodSlayer:
at first I read that as 'turtle dressing'

SkepticalVegan:

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--- Quote from: Wicked Combover on Apr 19, 2012, 10:01:58 AM ---I'm a veggie, have been since, oh, '92 or so. "Experimented" with veganism during teh stupid years (teens to early 20s). It was sloppy crap like this article that pushed me towards reality based thinking and evidence based positions. I hate to generalize unduly, but this has been my exeperience over and over and over and over, vegans are loons, and if I ever meet a non batshit vegan, I will eat my hat.

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Listen to Citizen Radio podcast.

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Yeah Jamie Kilstein is pretty awesome, though his co-host is anti-vax from what Ive heard.

also I like to think of myself as non-batshit and we had a number of vegans at TAM this year as well...even some "names"


--- Quote from: pandamonium on Apr 19, 2012, 07:37:47 PM ---We have Soymilk_gun on the forum. I'm sure you've run across him.

I will need to see photographic evidence of you dining on your hat, sir.

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Why thank you...but note the name change


--- Quote from: WC on Apr 19, 2012, 08:45:05 PM ---
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Yes, but I dismissed him outright as a hipster over his insistence on single speeds and fixies. I like soymilk (the bean juice and the man).
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no hipster here, just prefer to do minimal bike maintenance

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