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HFCS to Corn Sugar "RAGE!!" Ensues.
Johnny Slick:
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--- Quote from: DeepGlue on Apr 26, 2012, 05:33:47 PM ---Fixed my first point. It's an image comparing glucose, fructose and sucrose, showing that sucrose is just fructose and glucose held together by a tiny little bond.
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--- Quote from: DeepGlue on Apr 26, 2012, 01:47:21 PM ---3. As far as I know, the research does show that fructose is bad for you.
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What does that mean—could you be more specific?
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To be more specific, from the web and other threads on this board I've picked up that fructose is solidly established to be worse for people than sucrose or glucose. I don't recall specifics. Weight gain? Heart disease? I dunno. I just remember it's worse and I think that comes from more than one independent study. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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It contributes to fatty liver disease (Lustig). Its ubiquitisness contributes to gain in adipose tissue generally, and as I mentioned above, contributes to the overconsumption fo food in general and carbohydrates in particular(Kessler).
I would guess it is fine in the form of actual fruit, one wouldn't actually be able to eat the number of apples or oranges at one sitting that you can with juice. When you read from sources like Wrangham about the sort actual fruit that humans in the evolutionary past had available to them, one gets the ideas that they are not particularly high in fructose or particularly palatable for humans. Maybe we as a species are not generally well adapted to eat a lot of sweet fruit.
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It makes your face break out (Lonely)! It causes 16 kinds of cancers (Moa) and welcomes in another four into your body with promises of cheap tequila (Is)! It caused the collapse of the Brazilian economy (Full). MSNBC is powered entirely by it and they use it to give libs diabetes (Of). Matt Taubes said it was crap in this one book that he wrote (Hot). Finally, the ancient Chinese had a rule that said "HFC before bed, now you're dead" (Gas).
Plastique:
--- Quote from: Johnny Slick on Apr 26, 2012, 10:35:44 PM ---It makes your face break out (Lonely)! It causes 16 kinds of cancers (Moa) and welcomes in another four into your body with promises of cheap tequila (Is)! It caused the collapse of the Brazilian economy (Full). MSNBC is powered entirely by it and they use it to give libs diabetes (Of). Matt Taubes said it was crap in this one book that he wrote (Hot). Finally, the ancient Chinese had a rule that said "HFC before bed, now you're dead" (Gas).
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Hmm, compelling evidence. I didn't realize it was so serious, and I've thrown out all my strawberries in light of these watertight facts.
pandamonium:
tell me more about this cheap tequila: is it more or less deadly than HFCS? and how do both compare to cooked milk?
Halleyscomet/Wakefield:
--- Quote from: pandamonium on Apr 29, 2012, 11:37:13 PM ---tell me more about this cheap tequila: is it more or less deadly than HFCS? and how do both compare to cooked milk?
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I can't speak for the cheap tequila, but this looks like a promising source of a libation:
http://www.msk-ingredients.com/products.php?pid=33
Johnny Slick:
--- Quote from: pandamonium on Apr 29, 2012, 11:37:13 PM ---tell me more about this cheap tequila: is it more or less deadly than HFCS? and how do both compare to cooked milk?
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Well, since neither cheap tequila nor cooked milk cause cancer, it's very comparable. Except to HFCS, which is the anti-cooked milk in terms of not not not preventing cancer.
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