Topic: Treadmill

[Plastique]

At the end of the day, caloric deficit is what leads to weight loss.

I agree. And that can be created with exercise alone (not that I'm endorsing that method).

[seaotter]

Exercise can be used directly for weight loss.

Calories in calories out. If you want to lose weight very very slowly sure exercise can do it, but most people get rapidly disappointed with exercise as weight loss technique and quit exercising, which is bad.

[Plastique]

Calories in calories out. If you want to lose weight very very slowly sure exercise can do it

Depends how much exercise you do.

but most people get rapidly disappointed with exercise as weight loss technique and quit exercising, which is bad.

But I agree with you. Fat people who begin an exercise program and neglect nutrition will normally have limited success (at fat loss, anyway). And it's a surprisingly widespread ignorance; it's amazing how much of the population has no idea about exercise or diet.

[Johnny Slick]

The bigger issue with being fat is that if you're in a really, really deep fat-hole, our society doesn't give two craps whether you weigh 300 pounds or 280. Yeah, you'll live longer even if you shed 20 pounds, but once you're obese, you're just plain obese and jolly and whatevs until you're actually not obese anymore.

[lonely moa]

At the end of the day, caloric deficit is what leads to weight loss.  If you can control your weight by dieting alone, good for you.

Not sure if calorie deficit is too important.  I didn't change my diet when exercise dropped to near zero from injury.  I think the quality of food and macronutrient intake can maintain weight.  I lost 2 % of my body fat (and maybe a kilo total) in the last 5 months with no cardio or weights.  Actually, I hope to get that back and more when I am allowed to push some iron around again. 

[seaotter]

Sample size?

[lonely moa]

Sample size?

probably hundreds of thousands, if one believes a small percentage of some forums.

[341gerbig]

Lifting weights, and recovering from lifting weights, actually burn more calories that people think.


Let me see if I can find the original source for that thought in my head

[Ah.hell]

The thing about exercise that's been implied in the thread but not actually stated, only the most vigorous exercise will ever burn enough calorie to compensate for a small meal.  Really, only people that work hard for a living; manual labor and athletes really burn use enough directly during exercise to matter.  Sure it will raise your metabolism, which will help. 

Here's a list:http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/exercise/SM00109  For me, an hour of running burns a small meal.  Its just easier to cut out calories from food than to burn extra calories by increasing exercise. 

LM, did you keep a diet journal before and after the accident.  Are you certain you just weren't as hungry and thus ate less? 

[Cognoscento]

I just think that exercise is an incredible supplimental tool to help achieve an overall improvement in lifestyle, health, weight and overall fitness.  Look at it this way- If you needed to eliminate 1000 calories per day from your daily diet by only eating less, you would have to eliminate a prettly large portion of what you're used to eating.  In terms of will power, this can be extremely difficult to maintain for very long.  However, if you do an hour of moderate exercise every day (let's say 70% max hr on an exercise bike) you will burn 500-700 calories making the amount you have to cut out of your diet less.  For some, that would be eliminating 2 large cokes.  Much easier in my opinion and you get cardiovascular fittness as an added bonus.

[seaotter]

I stated that up front. The reason to exercise is for fitness.

I run every school night one mile burning ~100 calories according to my treadmill, then I have a 150 calorie coke.

[Cognoscento]

Yeah, but running a mile every day is not really enough to qualify as "exercise".  That is only like 7-10 minutes.  I'm pretty sure that one has to be in an aerobic state for 40-60 minutes to really get any benefit. Go run for an hour every day.  Then you can drink 6 cokes.     

[Xptical]

Yeah, but running a mile every day is not really enough to qualify as "exercise".  That is only like 7-10 minutes.  I'm pretty sure that one has to be in an aerobic state for 40-60 minutes to really get any benefit. Go run for an hour every day.  Then you can drink 6 cokes. 

I thought that was a myth.  It used to be 30 minutes 3 times per week.  Then it was 40 minutes 5 times per week.  Other people say you can get away with as little as 20 minutes.

When I hit the gym, I usually do 20 minutes of running and then another 20 minutes of lifting.

[Karyn]

For substantial health benefits, adults should do at least 150 minutes (2 hours and 30 minutes) a week of moderate-intensity, or 75 minutes (1 hour and 15 minutes) a week of vigorous-intensity aerobic physical activity, or an equivalent combination of moderate- and vigorous-intensity aerobic activity. Aerobic activity should be performed in episodes of at least 10 minutes, and preferably, it should be spread throughout the week.

http://www.health.gov/paguidelines/guidelines/chapter4.aspx

[Karyn]

Do 30 second sprints every 5 minutes.  So set the treadmill to your "cruising" speed (for me that's 8mph) - then every 5 minutes I punch it to 13mph and hang on for dear life for 30 seconds before coming back down to cruising speed.  It makes the time go by much faster because everything is broken down to 5 min blocks.  After an hour of this, I'm pretty pooped.

Because of this statement, I started do 30 - 60 seconds out of every 5 minutes of full blast on the elliptical.  I fished out my heart rate monitor now that it's back in a normal range to make sure things stayed okay.  I get my heart rate up to 170bpm and then let it drop back down to 150.  I notice as soon as the intense interval is up, I wonder why the hell I do such evil to myself, but then 5 minutes later, I'm ready to kick my ass again.  It's like a mini emotional roller coaster, which is way better than the utter boredom that is in the gym cardio.  I also notice that the first 2 intervals are harder to do and take longer to get the heart rate up.  I have no idea what that means.