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flu vaccines and side effects
lonely moa:
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--- Quote from: lonely moa on Apr 27, 2012, 01:36:17 PM ---That's how i avoid the side effects of the flu vaccine.
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Are you saying that the side effects are solely caused by pathogens caught off other people subsequent to vaccination?
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No.
Tatyana:
--- Quote from: lonely moa on Apr 27, 2012, 01:36:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: GodSlayer on Apr 27, 2012, 04:46:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: lonely moa on Apr 27, 2012, 04:07:56 AM ---You are more at risk ifd you are potentially encountering other humans with the virus.
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#unhelpfulpost
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That's how i avoid the side effects of the flu vaccine. It's about 50% effective, no more than taking a few precautions. It isn't like like not immunising yourself against polio, measles or whatever.
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Not really.
Each year the flu vaccine is typically about three different variants of the influenza virus based on which H (hemagglutinin) and N (neuraminidase) spikes.
There are 16 H and 9 N subtypes known, but only H 1, 2 and 3, and N 1 and 2 are commonly found in humans.
If some novel mix of H and N spikes occurs, most people will not have a previous experience of the virus and have to go through the whole two week cycle of innate to acquired immune response.
If you have had previous exposure to at least ONE of the spikes, then you by-pass the innate immune response and move towards the more specific and deadly acquired immune response EVEN IF IT IS NOT EXACTLY MATCHED TO THE SEASONAL STRAIN.
The flu vaccine may not stop you from getting the flu, however, it does give your immune system a running head start that is going to reduce morbidity and mortality, especially in the elderly.
vociferous:
I think most people get swollen lymph nodes, at least if the vaccine is effectively provoking an immune response. General feelings of discomfort or tiredness for a day or two are not uncommon either.
GodSlayer:
--- Quote from: vociferous on May 06, 2012, 07:33:18 PM ---I think most people get swollen lymph nodes, at least if the vaccine is effectively provoking an immune response. General feelings of discomfort or tiredness for a day or two are not uncommon either.
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if someone has kids or works long hours or eats poorly, or something else like that, would they also feel more sickly/exhausted/etc. than someone who gets the same response but is also well nourished and well rested? (I guess I'm wondering how much of it is physical illness and how much is just in your head/how you feel)
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