Topic: Astrotheology cranks

[vespine]

Santos Bonacci is an absolutely amazing flamenco guitarist based in Melbourne Australia where I live and over the years I've enjoyed watching him busk many times in the city.

This is his legit music website (I don't want his stats to link back to this page, call me paranoid )
santos dot net dot au

I googled him a while ago and discovered that apart from that, he's also a total conspiracy crank, but I didn't really look into it further because it seemed so fringe as to be laughable.

I run a website and ocasionally get contacted by true believers, as a learning exercise I ocasionally reply to some of the more coherent less delusional ones to see if I can get any insight into the conspiratorial mind. A few days ago I had a bit of a to and fro with a true believer from the UK and Santos' name came up as one of this guys main "influences".. My jaw dropped... Santos is possibly the David Ike of Australia.

This is his crank website

universaltruthschool dot com

His youtube channel is pretty incredible. About as close to the bottom of the rabbit hole as I've ever seen.

The gist is that law, religion and science are all "fabrications" of some "illuminati" melevolent forces used to blind us of the "reality". I haven't worked out what that "reality" is yet because I can't be bothered sitting through the hour long videos yet. But from what i've gathered so far it sounds like some sort of "David Ike like" spirit realm or something where our minds are free of these mortal trappings...

One thing that made me laugh was reading some of the comments on his youtube videos from Christians arguing that there was too a real jesus.. As if THAT is the biggest flaw in his whole reasoning.. 

[Obsequious]

The first YouTube video I clicked on had the words "occult science" in its title. I'd like to know more about this occult science business. Does it involve repeatable experiments? What about peer review?

 

[Obsequious]

Am watching his video. He seems to be claiming "the ancients" based all their knowledge on "this simple science," which is astrology.

Oh, and he's claiming he's going to demonstrate how all religions and spiritual traditions can be traced back to one common source or whatever. I hate that shit. If they're all the same, and all equally good, then why aren't you a Shiite, buddy?

[arthwollipot]

The first YouTube video I clicked on had the words "occult science" in its title. I'd like to know more about this occult science business. Does it involve repeatable experiments? What about peer review?

 

"Occult" simply means "hidden", so "occult science" is simply the science that you don't want anyone else to know about.

[Obsequious]

This guy doesn't seem to know much about science. He has a certain charisma, though. I'm guessing he has a lot of female followers.

[Trinoc]

This is his crank website

universaltruthschool dot com

Is there a name for the law that says that anything having "truth" in the title almost certainly isn't? If not, there should be.

(See, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plain_Truth)

Edit: In honour of The Plain Truth, the radio show The World Tomorrow, and the inestimable Garner Ted Armstrong (who harangued many of my generation on Radio Luxembourg), I propose calling it "Armstrong's Law".

[vespine]

He has a certain charisma, though. I'm guessing he has a lot of female followers.

No Kidding! He is about as slick as it gets.  There's a youtube video called just "santos bonacci" in a channel called michaelmav: there's no denying it, the guy is an abolute wizard on the guitar...

[Beleth]

Is there a name for the law that says that anything having "truth" in the title almost certainly isn't? If not, there should be.

Beleth's Law of Overstatement:

If something should go without saying, but it's said anyway, it's probably not true.

Ex: There's a restaurant I pass on the way to work that has a sign that proudly proclaims "TRY OUR DELICIOUS BREAKFAST." Since restaurant food being delicious should go without saying, I am leery of the actual deliciousness of that breakfast.

Same with "Universal Truth School". That a school teaches true things should go without saying.

[Anders]

It's even better in Sweden where some people don't realize what quotation marks mean.

Try our "delicious" breakfast.

[JuniorSpaceman]

Another BLO - someone who calls themselves 'Dr Smith PhD' 

Anyway, I've heard of Santos as a guitarist, but didn't know we had our own hometown 'King Of Bullshit' (as Righteous Indignation would put it). I know people who buy into this sort of thing - I'll have to ask them if they've heard of him.