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Episode #354
« on: Apr 28, 2012, 11:22:54 AM »
Live from NECSS 2012 with special guest James Randi
This Day in Skepticism
News Items: Pedantic Words, Sports Pseudoscience, Nuking Asteroids, Loch Ness Monster Spotted, Cosmic Rays, Space Shuttle Enterprise
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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #1 on: Apr 28, 2012, 11:33:53 AM »
Awesome! Thank you, as always!
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Re: Episode #354 Sports Pseudoscience
« Reply #2 on: Apr 28, 2012, 12:54:42 PM »
I have always been somewhat sympathetic to those in sports who latch onto superstitions or rituals. The problem, as several have told me is that they are attempting to do the same incalculable thing with their bodies each week (such as hit a baseball coming at them faster than their brain can actually process it) and the truth is, they have absolutely no real conscious idea how they do it. Worrying about it just tempts their conscious mind to interfere with their muscle memory, a sure way to fail. So, what many of them do is latch onto rituals that are anti-thought, which frees them to not to think about what they are doing. (a true description of ritual if I do say so myself, but in this case, not overthinking is the goal)
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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #3 on: Apr 28, 2012, 06:47:59 PM »
A blobsquatch equivalent of the Loch Ness Monster?

Blobbie?

Blossie?

Blob Ness Monster?
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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #4 on: Apr 28, 2012, 09:59:26 PM »
slightly disappointed that 'decimated' wasn't better explained.

wouldn't the answer to Jay's 'why so specific?' be the historical origins--why a word for killing exactly one tenth existed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_%28Roman_army%29
"A unit selected for punishment by decimation was divided into groups of ten; each group drew lots, and the soldier on whom the lot fell was executed by his nine comrades"
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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #5 on: Apr 28, 2012, 10:47:12 PM »
I loved the discussion on words that have changed meaning - there's a fascinating balance between what words do/can mean, as against what they mean for the general public. I agree that it's a pity we've lost disinterested - maybe there's a cultural shift where the original meaning doesn't matter any more? On the other hand, in the Australian media in the past couple of years, a new word has come into use, 'agreeance', which means exactly the same as 'agreement' (eg 'I'm in agreeance with you'). I wish someone had found a different word to synonimise with 'uninterested' which didn't lose us a valuable word.

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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #6 on: Apr 29, 2012, 12:09:16 AM »
it's a pity we've lost disinterested

I didn't know we had!
have you ever encountered people misusing it, or is it just that they misunderstand when you use it?
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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #7 on: Apr 29, 2012, 03:35:15 AM »
No article or anything in the Show notes on the Neutrino/Icecube story :( anyone have it? Mostly I wanna see the picture referenced.
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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #8 on: Apr 29, 2012, 03:47:47 AM »
A blobsquatch equivalent of the Loch Ness Monster?

Blobbie?

Blossie?

Blob Ness Monster?

I immediately though "Messie" or "Loch Mess Monster"

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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #9 on: Apr 29, 2012, 10:14:04 AM »
A blobsquatch equivalent of the Loch Ness Monster?

Blobbie?

Blossie?

Blob Ness Monster?

I immediately though "Messie" or "Loch Mess Monster"

Damn you beat me to it.  I had that idea as well.  The Ness Mess. 
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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #10 on: Apr 29, 2012, 07:49:32 PM »
Regarding asteroids:

I've heard the claim that a nuclear weapon used on an asteroid on it's way to earth wouldn't help the situation because it would create thousands of smaller asteroids.  But, my question is this: isn't a lot of small asteroids a *lot* better than one big one?  Afterall, most meteors burn up in the atmosphere before they hit the earth.  Assuming that any meteor smaller than a volkswagon burns up in the atmosphere without harming anything on the ground, why wouldn't a thousand volkswagon-sized asteroids be better than one big asteroid that's so big that it actually hits the earth?

Also, even if there are asteroid fragments large enough to hit the earth, wouldn't most of them still be small enough that they wouldn't, for example, cause a large tsunami like a large asteroid would?

Also, wouldn't the kinetic energy of an nuclear weapon dramatically change the velocity of quite a few of those asteroids - causing them to miss the earth entirely?  It seems to me that a single blast on the nearside of an asteroid could slow it down enough that it would miss the earth entirely (assuming it's not already really close).
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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #11 on: Apr 29, 2012, 09:05:03 PM »
Regarding asteroids:

I've heard the claim that a nuclear weapon used on an asteroid on it's way to earth wouldn't help the situation because it would create thousands of smaller asteroids.  But, my question is this: isn't a lot of small asteroids a *lot* better than one big one?

Only if they are really small, like you commented below. We've discussed the hazard of blowing them up here: Re: Blowing up asteroids?


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  Afterall, most meteors burn up in the atmosphere before they hit the earth.  Assuming that any meteor smaller than a volkswagon burns up in the atmosphere without harming anything on the ground, why wouldn't a thousand volkswagon-sized asteroids be better than one big asteroid that's so big that it actually hits the earth?

In keeping with another topic discussed on the show I will be pedantic. The original diameter of an asteroid broken into a thousand Volkswagen sized pieces would be 10 times the diameter of a Volkswagen. A small but horrifying asteroid, say 200 meters in diameter, would need to be broken into about 300,000 pieces to get that Volkswagen atmospheric benefit. But reading the PopSci article Steve discussed it would seem a large asteroid could be nuked and most pieces, big and small, would miss the Earth entirely.


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Also, even if there are asteroid fragments large enough to hit the earth, wouldn't most of them still be small enough that they wouldn't, for example, cause a large tsunami like a large asteroid would?

You can plug in the numbers and select an impact target, including water and water depth, into the Earth Impact Effects Program and it will return tsunami height (at the very bottom). The minimum possible impact velocity for the Earth is 11.2 km/s. The tsunami wave height coming ashore needs to be corrected for shoaling.


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Also, wouldn't the kinetic energy of an nuclear weapon dramatically change the velocity of quite a few of those asteroids - causing them to miss the earth entirely?

A potential Earth impacting asteroid that comes from the main asteroid belt would need have its velocity changed while at aphelion by 0.2 meters/sec to miss the Earth on its next swing. The PopSci article didn't mention calculated velocity changes but given the discussion of escape velocity of the pieces I would assume it is more than sufficient.

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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #12 on: Apr 30, 2012, 04:57:33 AM »
Transcript is done:

http://www.sgutranscripts.org/wiki/SGU_Episode_354

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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #13 on: Apr 30, 2012, 04:27:46 PM »
Transcript is done:

http://www.sgutranscripts.org/wiki/SGU_Episode_354

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Re: Episode #354
« Reply #14 on: Apr 30, 2012, 04:47:05 PM »
I'm curious to know if language changes less (or more slowly) with a higher literacy rate and standard, written dictionaries?

 

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