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Fringe medical conditions (i.e. morgellons)
« on: Apr 30, 2012, 07:04:11 PM »
Is there a list somewhere of fringe medical conditions not really (or at all) acknowledged by medical science?

I'm looking for things like Morgellons and Chronic Lyme disease, not "possessed by demons." ;)

Or if no list, can anyone just think of any others?

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Re: Fringe medical conditions (i.e. morgellons)
« Reply #1 on: Apr 30, 2012, 07:17:53 PM »
These Wikipedia articles give examples:

Hysterical contagion
Mass hysteria
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Re: Fringe medical conditions (i.e. morgellons)
« Reply #2 on: Jun 20, 2012, 11:39:54 AM »
I'm convinced Fibromyalgia should fall under this category. After all, you can't see,smell,feel,or taste it. It shows up under no imaging technique. You can't really test for it; there is a "criterion" of more than a certain number of trigger points being positive, but in my experience, I can touch literally anywhere (elbows, forehead, etc.) on a pt. claiming to have fibromyalgia, and they will state they are tender there. So it is a useless test.
     Shouldn't one be suspicious of a condition that (a) is only there because the patient says its there (b) cannot be verified by any known test (c) persists for whatever duration the patient says it persists for; no way of objectively telling, and (d) allows a patient to apply for disability, workers' comp, and pain meds?
      For those who point to the immense number of fibromyalgia sites and support groups on the Internet as proof there must be something to it, I counter that there are thousands of sites devoted to UFO sightings also. Doesn't make it real.
      What is real, for the patient and her familiy, is the suffering. However, I truly believe they will more likely find effective treatment by regarding it as the psychosomatic disorder it is, and seeing a psychiatrist, rather than vainly search for medical cures for a nonexistent physical/anatomic cause.
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Re: Fringe medical conditions (i.e. morgellons)
« Reply #3 on: Jun 20, 2012, 12:03:19 PM »
It's very possible that fibromyalgia is in the same state migraines were 30 years ago. It's only recently that they've been able to examine migraines as a physical phenomenon, and I'm really damn sure they are real.  You might be interested in this article by Steve Novella regarding the subject:
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/homeopathy-for-fibromyalgia-dana-ullman-strikes-again-on-the-huffington-post/#more-8223
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Re: Fringe medical conditions (i.e. morgellons)
« Reply #4 on: Jun 20, 2012, 02:28:14 PM »
I'm convinced Fibromyalgia should fall under this category.


Fibromyalgia is a blanket term. Like cancer or autism, there are multiple disorders or problems that are described as "Fibromyalgia" today. It's more of a symptom set than a specific underlying condition.  The big problem is there are a people with psychosomatic symptoms who get a Fibromyalgia diagnosis. It's a popular one with hypochondriacs and people with "drug seeking behavior."

I have an acquaintance in the UK who has chronic pain issues stemming from a military training injury. She has extensive nerve damage. She's also getting close to a formal Fibromyalgia diagnosis. While getting a formal diagnosis wouldn't have much impact on the actual treatments she gets, it would wash away a LOT of red tape and waiting periods for her. A Fibromyalgia diagnosis would mean the doctors acknowledge there's something biological at play and they need to manage her pain as opposed to writing her off as having psychosomatic symptoms. She would have to deal with fewer people who try to convince her she can just think her pain away with therapy.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fibromyalgia/DS00079

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001463/
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Re: Fringe medical conditions (i.e. morgellons)
« Reply #5 on: Jun 25, 2012, 06:41:06 PM »
Thank you, Karyn, for the link to the fibromyalgia/homeopathy article. It was a good one.
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 26, 2012, 03:03:35 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 26, 2012, 03:33:51 PM »
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Re: Fringe medical conditions (i.e. morgellons)
« Reply #9 on: Jun 26, 2012, 06:56:23 PM »
Who did?

Me, in the title of this thread.

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Re: Fringe medical conditions (i.e. morgellons)
« Reply #10 on: Jun 26, 2012, 08:06:49 PM »
Doh!
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