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Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« on: May 01, 2012, 12:12:01 AM »
I'm not talking about that neli pot business, but something else. I don't know too much about it, but a friend of mine is really eager to have me give it a try, because my allergies have been just awful over the last few days.

Is there any evidence that any kind of nasal rinsing or washing can actually help me with my allergies, or is it just a bunch of nonsense?

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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 12:46:45 AM »
There is some evidence for it. Try PubMed.

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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 06:13:36 AM »
My ENT specialist has recommended this. You should boil the water and allow it to cool before use, and add salt, about 0.9% by weight for "normal" saline up to about 2.7% to clear serious congestion. Some sources suggest using rock salt since it generally doesn't contain additives, but I don't know whether this is well-founded or just a case of the usual "all additives are bad" assumption. I find that rinsing with non-saline water causes an instant headache.

Full rinsing too often can leave the sinuses too clean. I find spraying saline from a re-used decongestant inhaler bottle is enough most of the time.
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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 11:23:21 AM »
My ENT specialist has recommended this. You should boil the water and allow it to cool before use, and add salt, about 0.9% by weight for "normal" saline up to about 2.7% to clear serious congestion. Some sources suggest using rock salt since it generally doesn't contain additives, but I don't know whether this is well-founded or just a case of the usual "all additives are bad" assumption. I find that rinsing with non-saline water causes an instant headache.

Full rinsing too often can leave the sinuses too clean. I find spraying saline from a re-used decongestant inhaler bottle is enough most of the time.


Rock salt will also contain random minerals from whatever it came from, which may or may not be inert in your sinuses. It's not even food grade. Rock salt is typically used for de-icing because it has contaminates that make it unsuitable for eating. It's f***ing stupid to squirt rock salt up your nose.

http://www.foodsubs.com/Salt.html

There are plenty of options if you want a salt devoid of iodine and anti-caking agents, rock salt is NOT one of them.
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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 12:37:36 PM »
I am not an allergy sufferer, but I do occasionally use a neti pot to alleviate general congestion (I do live in LA and the air quality ain't great). It really does help me and I do boil tap water, you could also use distilled water. I have heard a lot of anecdotes from others that it helps them with allergies and it does help me with the symptoms of head colds. I'd be curious to hear your experience if you try it (my wife suffers from allergies and won't do anything about it, except complain of course).

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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 06:56:17 PM »
Warning: The use of a Neti Pot with tap water may infect you with a parasitic amoeba which will cause you to fall in love with a Real Doll.

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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 09:25:18 AM »
Rock salt will also contain random minerals from whatever it came from, which may or may not be inert in your sinuses. It's not even food grade. Rock salt is typically used for de-icing because it has contaminates that make it unsuitable for eating. It's f***ing stupid to squirt rock salt up your nose.

I was of course referring to rock salt which is sold as suitable for food use, not the stuff I put on the path to de-ice it in winter.
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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 09:29:02 AM »
I use the Neti Pot for allergies and when I have a head cold. 
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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 10:37:06 AM »
Rock salt will also contain random minerals from whatever it came from, which may or may not be inert in your sinuses. It's not even food grade. Rock salt is typically used for de-icing because it has contaminates that make it unsuitable for eating. It's f***ing stupid to squirt rock salt up your nose.

I was of course referring to rock salt which is sold as suitable for food use, not the stuff I put on the path to de-ice it in winter.

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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 10:53:16 AM »
I'll chime in with my anecdotal evidence for the usefulness of nasal saline lavage. Instead of using a neti pot, I use a small plastic water bottle with a sports valve. It sure does feel good when that warm salt water runs through my sinuses and I can usually breath through my nose more easily an hour or so after. :-)

Edit: Also, if I've been having sneezing fits, this will mitigate them for about 24 hours. YMMV.

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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2012, 01:39:54 PM »
Thanks for the feedback and info, people! I may give this a try.

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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 04:16:29 AM »
I tried my friend's nasal wash on Monday. I'd been suffering terrible allergies on Monday, and the nasal wash didn't help me at all. My friend wanted to believe it had helped because I seemed to be breathing easier when I left her home, but within just a few minutes, I was suffering again.

If anything, I suspect the nasal wash made my symptoms worse by irritating my nasal passages and sinuses. They were never meant to have pressurized water irrigating its way through them, after all.

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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 10:39:56 PM »
Warning: The use of a Neti Pot with tap water may infect you with a parasitic amoeba which will cause you to fall in love with a Real Doll.

http://calitreview.com/25661


first thing that came to mind when I saw this thread.
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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2012, 10:41:26 PM »
does it work any less to just snort the water from a glass instead of all this fancy head tilting nozzle inserting business?
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Re: Nasal wash/rince to alleviate allergy symptoms?
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2012, 10:43:25 PM »
I tried my friend's nasal wash on Monday. I'd been suffering terrible allergies on Monday, and the nasal wash didn't help me at all. My friend wanted to believe it had helped because I seemed to be breathing easier when I left her home, but within just a few minutes, I was suffering again.

If anything, I suspect the nasal wash made my symptoms worse by irritating my nasal passages and sinuses. They were never meant to have pressurized water irrigating its way through them, after all.

I've got this Beclometasone Dipropionate spray that works for me.
has quite a pollen'y smell to it, but helps me whenever I'm sneezing incessantly or my nose is running like crazy for no apparent reason.
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