Topic: Has the easy access to sex enhanced this problem?

[goodthink]

I can see how porn desensitizes one to sexual stimuli. What I don't see is how porn creates more or less sexual harassment.

[pandamonium]

I can see how porn desensitizes one to sexual stimuli. What I don't see is how porn creates more or less sexual harassment.

Open your eyes, lib--PORN IS THE ROOT OF ALL EBIL IN THE WORLD.

But really, the arguments for porn being correlated with more sexual harassment generally favor the idea that the typical porn doesn't actually reflect reality and complex social interactions; and that young people are learning how to interact socially through porn--or at least that it biases/conditions people to expect certain things in social sexual situations. Eg, that women will always respond to aggressive male sexual advances, that men need to be the aggressor/initiator in the relationship, that women are there for men to have sex with.

The problem, imo, is that people are way too complicated, and there are too many other factors to consider (non-pornographic media, like romance films, television shows, etc) to lay the blame solely on porn. Can it exacerbate the problem? Probably. But I suspect that the problem (proclivity to sexually harass) has to exist already--and then porn is incorporated into the rationalization of dumbass behavior.

[goodthink]

How would one tease apart the affect of the internet vs. internet porn?

[pandamonium]

How would one tease apart the affect of the internet vs. internet porn?

With tweezers? I dunno. That's part of the problem--the two are virtually synonymous.

I will take this moment to point out that Utah, at one point, had the highest rate of porn search, and Mormons are incredibly sexist and patriarchal. It's a clear correlation, but not a clear line of causation. Hell, you can't even tell if or how the two are related. I suspect in this case, the sexism came first. Mormons have been around longer than internet porn, after all.

[goodthink]

Yerp. But they are also extremely sexually repressed. Which is the main reason I think they are so addicted to porn. I would imagine most red states rank high in porn searches.

[pandamonium]

Yerp. But they are also extremely sexually repressed. Which is the main reason I think they are so addicted to porn. I would imagine most red states rank high in porn searches.

Porn searches and "traditional family values" seem to correlate heavily with people I never want to encounter or even to acknowledge the existence of.

[goodthink]

Yerp. But they are also extremely sexually repressed. Which is the main reason I think they are so addicted to porn. I would imagine most red states rank high in porn searches.

Porn searches and "traditional family values" seem to correlate heavily with people I never want to encounter or even to acknowledge the existence of.

I think repression actually leads people to obsession.


When I was a christian, I used to think about the one unforgivable sin - rejection of the holy spirit. That lead to a flood of blasphemous thoughts. The more I tried to stop it, the more it happened and the worse it got. I don't think I was alone with the experience either.


My aunt is obsessed with the idea that she isn't really saved. That she will do something that will send her to hell. And because Jesus was nice enough to make the thought of an action equal to an action, she probably believes she is going to hell for her dreams and any unwanted thoughts that creeped into her conscious.


With sex, I think specific sects/religions attract sexual deviants.

[pandamonium]

I dunno... My family is pretty sexually repressed and I'm not overly obsessed with sex. I'm also a really weird person, so I might just be an outlier. I also have hangups concerning sex and sexual relationships, so maybe that's how it's manifested for me.

[Anders]

To what extent do people think that porn reflects reality? And are there any studies of whether rape has increased or decreased since Internet porn became a thing?

[moj]

To what extent do people think that porn reflects reality? And are there any studies of whether rape has increased or decreased since Internet porn became a thing?

yes, the internet/porn prevents rape

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/everyday_economics/2006/10/how_the_web_prevents_rape.html

The bottom line on these experiments is, "More Net access, less rape." A 10 percent increase in Net access yields about a 7.3 percent decrease in reported rapes. States that adopted the Internet quickly saw the biggest declines. And, according to Clemson professor Todd Kendall, the effects remain even after you control for all of the obvious confounding variables, such as alcohol consumption, police presence, poverty and unemployment rates, population density, and so forth.

[341gerbig]

Its strange that stereotypes and assumptions can be applied to males left and right in this forum, but if any are applied to females ITS GO TIME...

Instead of complaining that people aren't addressing stereotypes and assumptions about males, maybe you could actually address them. For one, it'd make for better reading, and for another, you'd actually be contributing to the discussion instead of just whinging.

I mean, really, how hard is it to point out how ridiculous the stereotype of the horny man is instead of saying stuff that's meant to annoy feminists? It's almost like you actually don't care about entering a dialogue with feminists. If you were, you'd figure out that we have way more in common than we disagree about.

Well that was badly misinterpreted...

Thank you for putting all those words in my mouth