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Offline Plastique

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Vegetable Stir Fry
« on: Jun 10, 2012, 08:59:37 AM »
Fine denizens of SGU, render unto me your finest vegetable stir fry recipes if you'd be so kind. Not so much the veges, but the major elements you use for flavor.

I normally fry up some garlic and ginger (and sometimes lemongrass), add veg, then add soy sauce later. I'm wondering how best to incorporate mirin, rice vinegar, five-spice, and whatever else (curry, oyster sauce, fish sauce, chili sauce?). I've tried a few combos that didn't quite mesh.

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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #1 on: Jun 10, 2012, 11:06:11 AM »
I like sesame oil in anything I make that's even remotely Asian.  I usually use a combination of soy sauce, sesame oil, fish sauce, rice vinegar (just a splash), garlic, lots of ginger and toasted sesame seeds.

If I'm making pork to go in my fried rice, I'll use cinnamon, black pepper, ginger, cloves, fennel seeds, brown sugar, rice vinegar, soy sauce and oil for the marinade.  The first 5 spices are my variation of Chinese five spice.  I don't care much for anise.
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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #2 on: Jun 10, 2012, 12:59:27 PM »
Thanks for the reply, Karyn, appreciate it.

Might have to check out the fish sauce; only problem is that my girlfriend hates most fish.

I'm with you on the ginger, I normally use so much that it makes the dish hot. I'm equally keen on the garlic, but slightly paranoid that I'm eating so much that it could make me smell garlicky when I sweat. And having been next to my share of garlic stenches on the treadmills, I'm not looking for that...

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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #3 on: Jun 10, 2012, 02:53:40 PM »
Fish sauce is interesting.  It doesn't really add a fishy flavor to things, and it smells absolutely horrible when you cook with it.  However, it makes everything taste better.  You really can't judge the stuff until you try it, and I guarantee if you've eaten at a Thai or Japanese restaurant, you've had it.
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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #4 on: Jun 10, 2012, 03:40:03 PM »
Fish sauce is interesting.  It doesn't really add a fishy flavor to things, and it smells absolutely horrible when you cook with it.  However, it makes everything taste better.  You really can't judge the stuff until you try it, and I guarantee if you've eaten at a Thai or Japanese restaurant, you've had it.

Oh, no doubt. SE Asia was brimming with it.

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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #5 on: Jun 10, 2012, 04:00:15 PM »
Red curry sauce and coconut milk makes a dandy Thai dish.
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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #6 on: Jun 10, 2012, 04:41:33 PM »
Red curry sauce and coconut milk makes a dandy Thai dish.

Got to try that one. I've heard of it, but never got around to getting the ingredients.

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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #7 on: Jun 12, 2012, 03:02:33 AM »
I usually fry all ingredients, starting with the hardest, for about 1 minute each; then add 1/4 cup of water and cover to steam for a few minutes; then add in this typical brown sauce:

Put 1 tsp corn starch in a small bowl or cup, add a bit of soy sauce and stir until starch is dissolved, squeezing out any clumps that form. Then add 2 tbs soy sauce, 1 tsp rice vinegar, 1 tbs sesame oil (or less if its roasted), 1 tsp brown sugar, 1 tsp sherry or brandy, a small squeeze of lemon juice, a small amount of vegetable broth, and somewhere between 1/2 and 1 cup hot (preferably boiling) water.

Add this after steaming the veggies and let it cook at medium-high heat sans lid for a couple of minutes to let the sauce thicken up and blend; then serve.

This is basically the same sauce you usually get with beef and broccoli at an American Chinese restaurant. Accordingly, I think it tastes best with broccoli etc. The amounts are really just guidelines; I don't actually measure anything anymore. The only thing you have to be careful with is the starch - too little and you've just got a thin broth, too much and it's a gloopy mess. You could certainly add different spices to this. I generally avoid them (and fish sauce) because my wife doesn't care for them too much.
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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #8 on: Jun 12, 2012, 03:51:56 AM »
Thanks for taking the time, sounds good.

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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #9 on: Jun 12, 2012, 07:57:34 AM »
I highly recommend finding and buying Long Pepper.  It is one of the most delicious spices around.  It goes great with veggies.     
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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #10 on: Jun 12, 2012, 08:08:55 AM »
Yeah? Is that spicy or more along the lines of capsicum?

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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #11 on: Jun 12, 2012, 08:20:16 AM »
Yeah? Is that spicy or more along the lines of capsicum?


It's earthy sweet in taste and smell, not hot.  It often can be bought in a grinder, but they don't work very well.  I tend to buy it and just run it through a spice grinder.   

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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #12 on: Jun 12, 2012, 12:12:19 PM »
Haha, sorry, missed the "spice" part. I was thinking of this type of thing:


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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #13 on: Jun 12, 2012, 02:04:17 PM »
My stir-fry "trick" is that I pre-cook the fresh garlic in the microwave (30s for 4 cloves) then slice or chop it. By then the garlic is mostly cooked and you can add it at the last second so you are sure it does not burn. Also we always keep very spicy sweet sauce and low-sodium soy sauce to be added according to each person's taste. Cook everything on very high heat, meat and veggies separately (or you risk boiling the meat, yuk), then assemble and add garlic.

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Re: Vegetable Stir Fry
« Reply #14 on: Jun 12, 2012, 02:39:14 PM »
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There is NOTHING more repulsive and offensive than the ubiquitous brown sauce stir fry, it is a pale and insulting imitation of real food. Okay, there are more repulsive and offensive things in the world, but not in the world of stir frys.

Not so much the veges, but the major elements you use for flavor.
It's all in the prep, you can go all willy nilly half way through, but you've got to take the time to chop, dice, and finely slice your ingredients. What follows is my base, from there I can take it in many directions and turn it into; Pad Thai, any Thai curry (fuck any Thai dish really), or Vietnamese and Malaysian style, or any kind of Chinese (the real deal, not the crap you find here), Korean, or just go 'po man style and dice up whatever you've got before it rots and toss it in, or whatever you can afford.

I start any style stir fry Thai style. Minced, or crushed and pressed garlic (and we're talking A LOT, like more than you can imagine, none of this two or three clove bullshit) in a bit of oil. Followed by A TON of shallots, not minced, but finely chopped. Sometimes onion too, or onion substituted for shallots if shallots can't be found. Any onion will do (rakkyo, leek, chive/green), I just toss in whatever I have or whatever I feel like. Now comes the tricky bit; pickled radish or galangal. Even well stocked asian markets may not carry it. It is very finely diced galangal pickled and salted. Various brands, various qualities. It's the secret ingredient. So secret, it's hard to come by. Shhhhhh....

Other essential flavor ingredients added at various points;
  • Soy sauce (duh), but sparringly
  • Sugar. Any kind, but palm is tops. Either palm cake sautéed in at the beginning, or pre crushed palm or regular sprinkled in on the noodles, if noodles are part of the stir fry. Or at any point if no noodles are going in, the only caveat is allowing it to liquify.
  • SRI-MOTHERFUCKING-RACHA
  • Eh, lemongrass if you're up for it. Not necessarily vital
  • And at the very end; Fish sauce. Can't let it cook, just a splash, very tiny amount at the very last minute. If you love southeast asian cuisine but hate the smell of stinky fishy feet, turn away and don't take a wiff, and pretend it's not there. BUT DO IT!!!
  • Squeezed lime or lemon from wedges only moments before it goes in 'yer gullet
It's all about getting 5 things in perfect harmony; sweet, salty, sour, savory, and spicy. You can do anything you want, go nuts with your stir fry, but it comes down to getting those 5 things just right, and not over doing it (for instance; the more soy you add, the more sugar you'll need, and the more pungent you have to make it... Less is more. Less is always more my friends. No need for a cold war arms race in your wok. Less sodium and empty sugar calories too. It's just about the balance of flavors, and less is always more, especially when starting out; sprinkles and splashes, not cups and tablespoons).
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