Thanks for the replies.
Pretty much the same here.
I do think the knee-jerk reactionary defensiveness is pretty telling.
The drama is almost embarrassing to look at.
Telling of what? That we are guilty as charged?
For everyone? No.
But the charges are far from unwarranted.
Any across -the- board condemnation would be wrong.
Most members here are excellent.
But compared to other forums I participate in --this place has a pretty big contingent of guys who fit the charges to a T.
From my perspective, it appears that the MOST defensive members are also the ones with the biggest "issues" about women.That's where I am seeing the drama coming from.
Perhaps. I don't have a checklist of posters who, I think, have issues with women. I haven't made that comparison. I don't think any group or side have a monopoly on the drama. thanks up to $0.04
Vague accusations stir the pot.
For all the non-drama seeking members, let me condense the solutions offered.
1) Cut the boobs and ass thread.
2) Remember how your mother taught you to be a decent human being when you were a kid? Ok, ya do more of that when posting here.
The latter is common sense, and I don't see how making a sticky about it is going to effect long-term change. If people haven't figured it out by this point in their lives...
And the former is just a knee-jerk solution to a non-problem. If we're losing potential members because they're offended by a small bit of nudity tucked away in a couple threads in the members-only, markedly explicit section of the forum, well, I don't think we're losing much.
Oh actually a summary is nice. An occasional reminder on expected behavior is fine, a message on top, in the thread, or in PM and that is done by the moderators
. As for the nudity, I always felt is was out of place here since I think of the forum as less of a hangout of friends than as a casual meeting place for those sharing an interest. However, I don't expect OTHERS to have the same view I do on that and I find the Explicit area to be a good compromise. It is worth noting that several people left the forum when explicit was created who did not like the moderation of the rest of the boards and some of those people were quite dramatic in departure.
Yeah, this has gotten a bit out of hand, and quite frankly I think it's a little bit overblown. "We" are putting these extremely high standards for behavior on each other that I don't think anyone could ever live up to.
Heya jaypee! I think we mostly DO live up to the high standards and I am for high expectations.