Eh, this is all like high school. Everyone and their clique. Cliques vs cliques. I hate tribal stuff, circling the wagons, in-group/out-group. People are
talking yelling past each other and browbeating. This is where hypocrisy, bigotry, and sectarianism raise their ugly heads. Cooler, wiser, heads are getting shouted down.
It doesn't necessarily mean it's a 'both sides do it', or that a controversy hasn't been manufactured or ginned up in some (not necessarily deliberate) way (with the exception of maybe two people I've noticed that really really REALLY hate the forums and the mods, and aren't missing an opportunity to take potshots or fan the flames).
Where's Zytheran and our other social scientists? They's got some 'splainin to do.
It's pretty toxic and nasty out right now. SGUF is currently being used as a strawman by folks who are blind to the irony of what they are doing, which is a pity because I think there have been some valid criticisms leveled at us, but those points of validity are being drowned out by a mob caught up in a frenzy.
When there's a reactionary shit storm going on that can't be bothered with reason or compelled by facts, I do what I always do; put in earbuds, take a klonipin, and focus on something either productive or calming, because otherwise I have panic attacks or rage fits. Life is too short for such unfortunate petulance, but it is so hard to look away... Harder not to jump in. Earbuds... Klonipin... Cycle... (hey, that's how I got through high school)
What else can you do?
As to your question.."Where's Zytheran" , well busy drinking alcohol before reading this forum or the total shit I have read on other forums is where I usually am.
I'll be upfront, I have have zero faith in this being resovled in any reasonable way as I'm seeing many, many unreasonable people who are unwilling to admit they were wrong and change their views. The irony is that these people all claim to be skeptics.
And you know what, ignorance IS bliss
. Knowing what I know about human behaviour because of my profession just makes this latest shit-storm even more annoying because of what I see. I could write a fucking encyclopaedia about the vast range of cognitive biases displayed over the whole RW/DJ issue by a whole pile of people.