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Cognitive Bias
« on: Jun 12, 2012, 08:33:40 PM »
Interesting article from the New Yorker which states that the smarter you are the more likely you are to fall to cognitive bias.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/frontal-cortex/2012/06/daniel-kahneman-bias-studies.html
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Re: Cognitive Bias
« Reply #1 on: Jun 12, 2012, 08:52:15 PM »
Thanks for pointing out the article, Skeptress. It's very interesting.

I wonder whether we should reframe how we look at things that somehow we have evolved a faulty intuition for. Perhaps we should treat these questions as equivalent to optical illusions, where no matter how much we know the trick, we still cannot see what is actually there. However, we can learn to act based on the reality of the situation, rather than the illusion.

This might remove the defensiveness that people feel when they get an answer wrong when it seems to be a simple question, and make people more willing to look into how their instincts can lead them astray.

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Re: Cognitive Bias
« Reply #2 on: Jun 12, 2012, 10:31:16 PM »
Yeah, and I'll say straight out that one big part of why is that people who can think more quickly are doing so by utilizing their intuition more and learning to trust said intuition.
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Re: Cognitive Bias
« Reply #3 on: Jun 15, 2012, 01:07:10 AM »
When people claim that someday AIs will achieve human levels of intelligence I wonder if they mean that the AIs will make these same sorts of errors?
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Re: Cognitive Bias
« Reply #4 on: Jun 15, 2012, 11:24:40 AM »
When people claim that someday AIs will achieve human levels of intelligence I wonder if they mean that the AIs will make these same sorts of errors?

They probably will be biased and bigoted since they are stupid computer people and aren't humans.
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Re: Cognitive Bias
« Reply #5 on: Jun 15, 2012, 11:46:58 AM »
When people claim that someday AIs will achieve human levels of intelligence I wonder if they mean that the AIs will make these same sorts of errors?

If (and I think it will happen eventually but latter rather then sooner) artificial intelligence becomes comparable to human intelligence, it will have it's own quirks.  It's just guess work as to what those quirks will be.  I suspect that forming as a result of an entirely different evolutionary process, artificial intelligence will have different strengths and weaknesses when compared to humans so comparable intelligence is very hard to measure.  When it is comparable then there will be things artificial intelligence does better and others that homo sapiens will do better.  Because of this there will be quirks unique to artificial intelligence, quarks artificial intelligence won't generate, and quarks artificial intelligence and humans share together.  Complicating matters is the likelihood of large variations in artificial intelligence and a non-trivial distribution of quirks between different species.
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Re: Cognitive Bias
« Reply #6 on: Jun 15, 2012, 12:31:41 PM »
Thanks for pointing out the article, Skeptress. It's very interesting.

I wonder whether we should reframe how we look at things that somehow we have evolved a faulty intuition for. Perhaps we should treat these questions as equivalent to optical illusions, where no matter how much we know the trick, we still cannot see what is actually there. However, we can learn to act based on the reality of the situation, rather than the illusion.

This might remove the defensiveness that people feel when they get an answer wrong when it seems to be a simple question, and make people more willing to look into how their instincts can lead them astray.
Thinking can be done poorly or well and illusions can always be recognized.  Hell, part of learning is getting better at thinking about stuff.  People can learn to think better about anything. 
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Re: Cognitive Bias
« Reply #7 on: Jun 15, 2012, 07:52:08 PM »
Interesting article, thanks.

I've been reading a bit on Dan Kahan's work specifically how it relates to how science informs our views on politically polarizing topics. I thought that maybe this finding would have a similar cause as what Kahan and others have found in their research.

They were saying that additional science information increases polarization, because with more knowledge individuals are better able to justify their intuited or group-influenced positions. But the research in the New Yorker article was saying that the intuitive thinking itself was worse in people scoring higher on measures of smartness.

I'm trying to figure out why that is. The proposed explanation in the article doesn't really make sense to me, although I might just not be understanding what it's trying to say. If it's that "smarter" people are more likely to go with bad intuition because they are more likely to believe their intuition is good, that might make some sense, but I got the impression that the study measured the intuition itself rather than how likely subjects were to use it. Can anybody clarify that for me?

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Re: Cognitive Bias
« Reply #8 on: Jun 16, 2012, 10:13:38 AM »
I wonder if this is a form of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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