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According to the definition given on the Genderbread Person below, what Gender Identity do you have?

Woman
11 (15.9%)
Man
57 (82.6%)
Genderqueer
1 (1.4%)
Other (describe below if you want to)
0 (0%)

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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #30 on: Jun 13, 2012, 01:01:25 PM »
Technically, "gender" is a linguistic term that refers to nouns. My sex is male.

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Technically, words can acquire new meanings.

Yeah, so when I say "that's bullshit" it might mean "I agree". Or maybe not. :)
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #31 on: Jun 13, 2012, 02:05:48 PM »
I'm about a generation (at least) out of touch with the culture but is "genderqueer" an acceptable term? Would it be OK to ask someone if they were "genderqueer?"



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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #32 on: Jun 13, 2012, 02:28:25 PM »
I cannot think this out for you. If you are truly finding this question this difficult, you should not feel obligated to answer it.

You seem pretty defensive. I was not being deliberately obtuse. It is really simple. To me sex=gender. That might be a language thing, English is not my first language. I'd counter your point with the statement that it is the communicators problem to make sure the question is understood correctly in order to be sure that the question is answered correctly. If you can't be arsed to be clear, don't ask.

That was aimed at GodSlayer, not you. Sorry if I got you in the crossfire.

The common understanding that sex=gender was why I posted the Genderbread Person graphic. It shows the difference in a wonderfully comprehensible (to me, anyway) way.
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #33 on: Jun 13, 2012, 02:29:19 PM »
I'm about a generation (at least) out of touch with the culture but is "genderqueer" an acceptable term? Would it be OK to ask someone if they were "genderqueer?"

It's just a word I copied from an image I snagged from a Google search.
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #34 on: Jun 13, 2012, 02:31:56 PM »
I'm about a generation (at least) out of touch with the culture but is "genderqueer" an acceptable term? Would it be OK to ask someone if they were "genderqueer?"

It's just a word I copied from an image I snagged from a Google search.

OK, I just wondered whether it was a new word that's easier to say than LGBT. :)
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #35 on: Jun 13, 2012, 02:47:45 PM »
I'm about a generation (at least) out of touch with the culture but is "genderqueer" an acceptable term? Would it be OK to ask someone if they were "genderqueer?"

It's just a word I copied from an image I snagged from a Google search.

OK, I just wondered whether it was a new word that's easier to say than LGBT. :)

L, G, and B are orientations. T is sex.  :jugglesaws:
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #36 on: Jun 13, 2012, 03:46:04 PM »
genderqueer is perfectly acceptable.  People in the community use it all the time.  I probably verge on being genderqueer, since I'm a tomboy that likes to get my hands dirty, wear jeans and tshirts and play with legos.  Or something like that. 
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #37 on: Jun 13, 2012, 03:50:32 PM »
genderqueer is perfectly acceptable.  People in the community use it all the time.  I probably verge on being genderqueer, since I'm a tomboy that likes to get my hands dirty, wear jeans and tshirts and play with legos.  Or something like that.

Do gender stereotypes have to be applied for "genderqueer" to be a useful word?
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #38 on: Jun 13, 2012, 05:23:37 PM »


I'm about a generation (at least) out of touch with the culture but is "genderqueer" an acceptable term? Would it be OK to ask someone if they were "genderqueer?"

It's just a word I copied from an image I snagged from a Google search.

OK, I just wondered whether it was a new word that's easier to say than LGBT. :)

L, G, and B are orientations. T is sex.  :jugglesaws:

LOL. See what I mean?

Why did they have to stick T on the end? Just to confuse old farts? And how did L get top billing over G? :)

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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #39 on: Jun 13, 2012, 05:30:27 PM »
genderqueer is perfectly acceptable.  People in the community use it all the time.  I probably verge on being genderqueer, since I'm a tomboy that likes to get my hands dirty, wear jeans and tshirts and play with legos.  Or something like that.

Do gender stereotypes have to be applied for "genderqueer" to be a useful word?

I think they do.  If you look at gender identity in the very young, you see that gender expression in people who are transgender tends to follow these stereotypes.  Not only is the boy insisting he's a girl, but he also wants to play with ponies, wear dresses and makeup.  Perhaps they do this just because gender stereotypes are so ingrained into our brains and culture.  One of the reasons I waffle on the 'genderqueer' label is because of this.  I certainly don't feel like I should be a girl or boy.  my gender and my genitals are not in conflict.  However, my gender stereotype and the way I actually want to express myself are.  I guess you could look to lesbians who tend to take on male stereotypical traits - short hair, jeans, more androgyny in their appearance.  I don't really know if they consider themselves genderqueer, or identify more as male without necessarily having an issue with their sex.  Honestly, I'm probably not the right person to ask about this.  I'm really just pulling all this ex ano.
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #40 on: Jun 13, 2012, 07:07:34 PM »
...I'm a stubborn asshole, maybe that makes me a man, like Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth

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Is that here real name?

first name is actually Omaroseonee, Omarosa is an abbreviation  8)
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #41 on: Jun 13, 2012, 07:09:37 PM »
...I'm a stubborn asshole, maybe that makes me a man, like Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth

 :roflolmao:

Is that here real name?

first name is actually Omaroseonee, Omarosa is an abbreviation  8)

LOL. I guess I shouldn't laugh though since I come from a culture of sometimes hilariously long names. There are some humdingers in my family.
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #42 on: Jun 13, 2012, 07:14:35 PM »
L, G, and B are orientations. T is sex.  :jugglesaws:
Why did they have to stick T on the end? Just to confuse old farts? And how did L get top billing over G? :)

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it's for the 'trans' community (transgender, transexual), who are part of the community targeted by the 'traditional values/god makes everything straight and perfect' type people, so, for parade/march/lobby/rally type reasons, it makes sense to lump them in together.
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #43 on: Jun 13, 2012, 07:18:10 PM »
genderqueer is perfectly acceptable.  People in the community use it all the time.  I probably verge on being genderqueer, since I'm a tomboy that likes to get my hands dirty, wear jeans and tshirts and play with legos.  Or something like that.

Do gender stereotypes have to be applied for "genderqueer" to be a useful word?

I think they do.  If you look at gender identity in the very young, you see that gender expression in people who are transgender tends to follow these stereotypes.  Not only is the boy insisting he's a girl, but he also wants to play with ponies, wear dresses and makeup.  Perhaps they do this just because gender stereotypes are so ingrained into our brains and culture.  One of the reasons I waffle on the 'genderqueer' label is because of this.  I certainly don't feel like I should be a girl or boy.  my gender and my genitals are not in conflict.  However, my gender stereotype and the way I actually want to express myself are.  I guess you could look to lesbians who tend to take on male stereotypical traits - short hair, jeans, more androgyny in their appearance.  I don't really know if they consider themselves genderqueer, or identify more as male without necessarily having an issue with their sex.  Honestly, I'm probably not the right person to ask about this.  I'm really just pulling all this ex ano.

I'm glad this turned into an interesting thread.  :)

I've always wondered what conclusions about identity people would reach without stereotypes to encourage conformity with expectations ('oh, you like My Little Pony? you must be a girl. oh, you don't like wearing dresses, then you're not a girl, you're just gay')
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Re: What gender are you?
« Reply #44 on: Jun 13, 2012, 07:20:21 PM »
Man, male, hetero. Usually masculine, occasionally androgynous.
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