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Anti-God just as likely as God, Peter Millican.
Desert Fox:
--- Quote from: vespine on Jul 05, 2012, 08:09:07 PM ---They certainly could.... Sounds like something Mother Teresa would have said, in fact from what I understand she went even a step further in that suffering was somehow glorifying God.
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Notice it was mostly others suffering :argh:
Shibboleth:
--- Quote from: vespine on Jul 05, 2012, 07:45:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shibboleth on Jul 05, 2012, 12:56:07 PM ---I never claimed that they were arguments for God. I was just pointing out that I think this world is constantly in a flood of joy which is one of the reasons why dying is so upsetting.
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Right, then I think you've missed the point of my argument. Of course I personally believe there are lots of wonderful aspects to life which can be explained by natural means.
The point here is to build a hypothetical argument for "anti-God" or "evil-God" as a counter-argument to God. I think tsunamis are very strong evidence for an "evil god" (in a theological sense) because there is no correspondingly "powerful" but opposite effect that can be attributed to a "benevolent God".
There seems to be a lot more suffering then joy in the world which is what you would expect if the ultimate ruler and creator of the universe was "evil".
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Is darkness anti-light or the absence of light? Is a vacuum anti-mater or the absence of matter?
vespine:
--- Quote from: Shibboleth on Jul 05, 2012, 10:25:04 PM ---Is darkness anti-light or the absence of light? Is a vacuum anti-mater or the absence of matter?
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I'm not sure I understand the point you are trying to make.
The specific point here is that an argument such as "good can't exist without god" which is the argument from objective morality can simply be restared as "evil can't extist without evil-God". It's just as logical and consistent, it illustrates the problem with the theists argument.
jomike:
--- Quote from: Shibboleth on Jul 05, 2012, 10:25:04 PM ---Is darkness anti-light or the absence of light? Is a vacuum anti-mater or the absence of matter?
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Is light anti-darkness, or is it the absence of dark?
Beleth:
Light is the perception of photons in a certain range of energy levels. For the photons to be perceived, they must exist.
My question is: Can the creator of the universe possibly be described as an anti-God, or are we just talking about the morality aspect of God here?
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