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Anti-God just as likely as God, Peter Millican.
vespine:
--- Quote from: jomike on Jul 04, 2012, 03:06:58 PM --- If you enjoyed the Millican debate, you might also dig this one.
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Thanks for that. Actually, Millican might have mentioned Law when making the argument, i'll definitely give it a listen.
Desert Fox:
Going to have to try the evil god argument myself
Truth is that the problem of evil is not really stopped me from believing although it might have helped me continue questioning.
Edit: Looking on some of the religious arguments against it, it looks like many try to dismiss it without actually considering it. . . .
jomike:
--- Quote from: vespine on Jul 04, 2012, 05:36:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: jomike on Jul 04, 2012, 03:06:58 PM --- If you enjoyed the Millican debate, you might also dig this one.
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Thanks for that. Actually, Millican might have mentioned Law when making the argument, i'll definitely give it a listen.
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I thought Millican and Law put up pretty stiff challenges to Craig. Not that they "won," technically speaking; I don't know if anyone ever has outpointed Craig. But IMO Craig didn't successfully address the substance of Millican's and Law's evil-god argument; he mostly sidestepped it & ran out the clock.
Prompted by your post I googled to see if there's an mp3 of the Millican-Craig debate, and lo and behold! So thanks for posting.
vespine:
--- Quote from: jomike on Jul 04, 2012, 07:43:01 PM ---Prompted by your post I googled to see if there's an mp3 of the Millican-Craig debate
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The full thing is on youtube... i can't search youtube at work so i can't link it but it's easy enough to find.
If you want to download it or get an mp3 version, I found an excellent way to save youtube vidoes, it's so good it's almost unbelievable until you try it.
You find the video you want on youtube and just type the word save directly in front of youtube in the address bar.
so http://www.youtube.com/blahblah/ becomes http://www.saveyoutube.com/blahblah/
That's all there is to it. This takes you straight to a page where you can download the chosen video in several different formats, including mp4 AND audio only mp3 if you prefer.
I've downloaded dozens of full debates I've found on youtube this way (and pretty much every clip of Hitchens I've managed to find) and I just listen to them on my iphone on my commute to work.
jomike:
--- Quote from: vespine on Jul 04, 2012, 08:01:59 PM ---You find the video you want on youtube and just type the word save directly in front of youtube in the address bar.
so http://www.youtube.com/blahblah/ becomes http://www.saveyoutube.com/blahblah/
That's all there is to it. This takes you straight to a page where you can download the chosen video in several different formats, including mp4 AND audio only mp3 if you prefer.
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This is fantastic. I'm forever stumbling on stuff on Youtube that I'd much rather dl & listen to on my mp3 player. Thanks for the tip.
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