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CONTEST - Correctly name that fallacy
« on: August 12, 2007, 04:19:01 PM »
One of the few books I have read that I would recommend to others with the observation that it is "biblical" is The Joy of Work by Scott Adams.  He includes a section of 32 logical fallacies, some of them accurately named, most of them just silly examples.

1.  I will provide the example of the fallacy as identified in the book.

2.  Once a person has replied with the correct name of the fallacy, with an explanation, I will give Adams' name and move on to the next.

4.  This string will continue until all 32 fallacies have been covered (might take a while).

5.  Dissent and bickering are encouraged.  This is practice for me too, and I reserve the right to be dead wrong and be corrected!

6.  There is no #3.
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FALLACY #1
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 04:20:05 PM »
Example #1

You can train a dog to fetch a stick.  Therefore, you can train a potato to dance.
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CONTEST - Correctly name that fallacy
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 04:28:30 PM »
False analogy, potatoes don't have brains.
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Re: FALLACY #1
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 04:28:36 PM »
Quote from: "CapSponge"
Example #1

You can train a dog to fetch a stick.  Therefore, you can train a potato to dance.


False analogy.  A dog's trainability does not carry over to a potato's.

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FALLACY #2
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 04:32:25 PM »
ding, ding, ding!  Adams' identification:  "Amazingly Bad Analogy"

Example #2:

On the basis of my observations, wearing huge pants makes you fat.
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Re: FALLACY #2
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2007, 04:33:44 PM »
Quote from: "CapSponge"
ding, ding, ding!  Adams' identification:  "Amazingly Bad Analogy"

Example #2:

On the basis of my observations, wearing huge pants makes you fat.


No fallacy, you are fat.
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Re: FALLACY #2
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2007, 04:34:01 PM »
Quote from: "CapSponge"
ding, ding, ding!  Adams' identification:  "Amazingly Bad Analogy"

Example #2:

On the basis of my observations, wearing huge pants makes you fat.


Also, correlation fallacy.

EDIT: I guess the Latin name is "Cum Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc."
quot;if you looat the world and think there is a God nothin make sense but if you see it fro a naturalistivc perspectiove all the shti goin on is exactly what youd expect-"  -The Always Eloquent Richard Dawkins

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Re: FALLACY #2
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2007, 04:35:17 PM »
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ding, ding, ding!  Adams' identification:  "Amazingly Bad Analogy"

Example #2:

On the basis of my observations, wearing huge pants makes you fat.


Unrepresentative sample.  
Vague authority.
(Not using the shotgun effect here.  Either both are right or I miss.)

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CONTEST - Correctly name that fallacy
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2007, 04:42:36 PM »
Giving #2 to Paul.  Adams' identification:  "Faulty Cause and Effect."  Suggestion:  a good explanation of this type of fallacy can be found here.

FALLACY #3:

I don't listen to country music.  Therefore, country music is not popular.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2007, 04:43:11 PM »
Again, no fallacy because you are fat.
quot;if you looat the world and think there is a God nothin make sense but if you see it fro a naturalistivc perspectiove all the shti goin on is exactly what youd expect-"  -The Always Eloquent Richard Dawkins

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CONTEST - Correctly name that fallacy
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2007, 04:47:25 PM »
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Again, no fallacy because you are fat.


You are obviously basing your conclusion on a false premise.  You know only that I have an unusually handsome chin.  Prominent, powerful facial structures do not signify obesity, jew killer!
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CONTEST - Correctly name that fallacy
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2007, 04:48:44 PM »
Quote from: "CapSponge"

I don't listen to country music.  Therefore, country music is not popular.[/i]


Small sample.

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CONTEST - Correctly name that fallacy
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2007, 04:52:52 PM »
Hasty generalisation.

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FALLACY #4
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2007, 04:56:30 PM »
I'd say Zeno is on it.  I was thinking unrepresentative sample or generalization from specific, but we're thinking the same thing.

EDIT:  Zam was on it, too.

Adams' identification:  "I Am the World"

FALLACY #4:

People choose to be obese/gay/alcoholic because they prefer the lifestyle.
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Re: FALLACY #4
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2007, 05:02:16 PM »
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People choose to be obese/gay/alcoholic because they prefer the lifestyle.

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Ignoring the counterevidence.


I'm going to change my answer to unstated major premise.  People don't  necessarily choose to be obese/gay/alcoholic.

 

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