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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #212 on: March 29, 2017, 06:38:43 PM »
I notice from some of the test details that one group was forty mice. . . .I would like somebody who understands these sorts of studies to actually explain what it means. How much in terms of body weight, for example is it equal to 200 sodas a day? How valid is their P values? Something that cannot be answered but did they do fifty tests and this is the one that showed the values they wanted?
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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #213 on: March 29, 2017, 10:05:12 PM »


The only sweetener that had a statistically significant effect was saccharin,  and the sample size of the human arm was laughable


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The authors are confounding their conclusions by addressing all these noncaloric artificial sweeteners together,” says Brian Ratcliffe, a nutrition researcher at Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen, U.K. That's why the title of the paper, “Artificial sweeteners induce glucose intolerance by altering the gut microbiota,” is misleading, he says. "I cannot believe the journal allowed that title.”

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/09/artificial-sweeteners-may-contribute-diabetes-controversial-study-finds

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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #214 on: April 21, 2017, 11:08:18 PM »
Sugar- and Artificially Sweetened Beverages and the Risks of Incident Stroke and Dementia

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.016027
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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #215 on: April 22, 2017, 12:11:39 AM »


Sugar- and Artificially Sweetened Beverages and the Risks of Incident Stroke and Dementia

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.016027

I love how you pooh pooh epidemiology when it conflicts with your dogma, but embrace it when it suits your bias

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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #216 on: April 22, 2017, 11:47:24 AM »


Sugar- and Artificially Sweetened Beverages and the Risks of Incident Stroke and Dementia

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.016027

I love how you pooh pooh epidemiology when it conflicts with your dogma, but embrace it when it suits your bias

Actually, I'm not embracing this. I posted it for information only.

Also, I probably need to make my position on AS clear, again.

I am not opposed to them, but I think they mask, perpetuate and facilitate a serious issue (sugar addiction).

Which is why I suggest people go thirty days with no sugar or artificial sweeteners or anything remotely sweet in their diets, then add artificial sweeteners back, if they like.

After the thirty days you won't need/want as much sweetness in your foods/drinks. All your food will taste better and your sugar habit/addition will be under control.
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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #217 on: April 24, 2017, 02:42:34 PM »
Sugar- and Artificially Sweetened Beverages and the Risks of Incident Stroke and Dementia

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.016027

If you check this study they didn't control from obesity as a separate variable. But they did find, surprise, that the most overweight subjects tended to drink the most of the soda.

At least one recent study found a similar correlation with a similar risk between obesity and stroke/dementia.

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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #218 on: April 24, 2017, 03:11:58 PM »
Sugar- and Artificially Sweetened Beverages and the Risks of Incident Stroke and Dementia

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.016027

If you check this study they didn't control from obesity as a separate variable. But they did find, surprise, that the most overweight subjects tended to drink the most of the soda.

At least one recent study found a similar correlation with a similar risk between obesity and stroke/dementia.

They're also reporting that as little as one drink per day correlates with CVD.

(Again, not embracing the study or its findings, but it seemed appropriate for this thread, it was also linked to and discussed in another thread).
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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #219 on: April 25, 2017, 11:06:40 AM »


Sugar- and Artificially Sweetened Beverages and the Risks of Incident Stroke and Dementia

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.016027

I love how you pooh pooh epidemiology when it conflicts with your dogma, but embrace it when it suits your bias

Actually, I'm not embracing this. I posted it for information only.

Also, I probably need to make my position on AS clear, again.

I am not opposed to them, but I think they mask, perpetuate and facilitate a serious issue (sugar addiction).

Which is why I suggest people go thirty days with no sugar or artificial sweeteners or anything remotely sweet in their diets, then add artificial sweeteners back, if they like.

After the thirty days you won't need/want as much sweetness in your foods/drinks. All your food will taste better and your sugar habit/addition will be under control.


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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #220 on: April 25, 2017, 11:51:31 AM »
"All in your head" Bullshit.

(do you have a source for this nonsense?)
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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #221 on: April 25, 2017, 12:35:36 PM »
Do you have a source for your sugar addiction nonsense?

That page seems to be missing from my DSM5

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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #222 on: April 25, 2017, 01:01:03 PM »
Do you have a source for your sugar addiction nonsense?

That page seems to be missing from my DSM5


Also missing from your DSM5: The phrase "all in your head."
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Re: Pepsi switching aspartame to Splenda (IOW: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
« Reply #223 on: April 25, 2017, 01:05:00 PM »


Sugar- and Artificially Sweetened Beverages and the Risks of Incident Stroke and Dementia

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.016027

I love how you pooh pooh epidemiology when it conflicts with your dogma, but embrace it when it suits your bias

Actually, I'm not embracing this. I posted it for information only.

Also, I probably need to make my position on AS clear, again.

I am not opposed to them, but I think they mask, perpetuate and facilitate a serious issue (sugar addiction).

Which is why I suggest people go thirty days with no sugar or artificial sweeteners or anything remotely sweet in their diets, then add artificial sweeteners back, if they like.

After the thirty days you won't need/want as much sweetness in your foods/drinks. All your food will taste better and your sugar habit/addition will be under control.


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Also, your unscientific and unsupported chart is incorrect.

Sucrose and high-fructose corn syrup are what the addiction claims are based on. The claim is not that people are addicted to glucose or that they are addicted to fructose.

Neither high-fructose corn syrup nor sucrose are produced in the body, and neither fructose nor sucrose are produced in the amounts found in the Typical American Diet.

Otherwise, nice use of the naturalistic fallacy to make your point.
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