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Episode #580
« on: August 20, 2016, 02:52:41 PM »

Interview with Fraser Cain; Forgotten Superheroes of Science: Janet Rowley; News Items: Chemtrails, Supar Hyperactivity, Augmented Reality and Cognitive Load, Fifth Force; Who’s that Noisy; What’s the Word: Flocculation; Science or Fiction
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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2016, 04:20:24 PM »
Cara: "Pandemonium? I wonder if that's what they call a group of bosons?"

It is now.

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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2016, 08:43:02 PM »
I personally prefer 'a panoply of bosons'.  Panoply is a perfectly good word which already has had its original meaning (a full suit of armour) changed to a collection of items.  Also I've been wanting to use 'panoply' since I discovered it several years ago.  Today is the first time...


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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2016, 09:37:42 PM »
OK, I'm not back but I have to wonder what (in practice) the difference is between "focus on a task" and "cognitive tunnelling" aside from the second one sounding more Trekkish.

How is this even a term that is differentiated from "focussed" or "attending" to something given that we have finite cognitive capacity?
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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 12:00:42 AM »
We use Flocculation in the mining industry. The waste product (Tailings) is pumped into a large vat and a chemical is added to get the solids to clump together (Flocculation) and sink to the bottom.
Then we can pump the thickened tailings to the final storage dam. By doing this we can reclaim most of the water (which overflows at the top of the vat) and reuse it and save money by not having to pump millions of extra tonnes of water several kilometres.

A similar process is used in Water Treatment plants.

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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2016, 11:26:39 AM »
I know Steve trumped it with 'D&D in a cabin', but it's interesting to me that LARPing is generally considered the height of nerddom. it's a social and active pursuit. not many people would call paintball nerdy (though I guess if you use the Nerdist vocabulary (e.g., 'sports nerds' love to obsess about the players and their favorite teams) then  I guess it could be a military nerd thing).
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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 11:37:44 AM »
I know Steve trumped it with 'D&D in a cabin', but it's interesting to me that LARPing is generally considered the height of nerddom. it's a social and active pursuit. not many people would call paintball nerdy (though I guess if you use the Nerdist vocabulary (e.g., 'sports nerds' love to obsess about the players and their favorite teams) then  I guess it could be a military nerd thing).

A big factor is how much effort you have to expend to do the activity.

LARPing is more nerdy than a tabletop RPG in the same way that playing a miniatures game with pre-painted models is not as nerdy as one where you have to assemble and paint everything yourself.  LARPers have to add mountains of hands-on hobby time building costumes and accessories and training with weapons on top of the rules-based character creation/management/tracking they already share in common with tabletop.
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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2016, 06:13:39 AM »
I know Steve trumped it with 'D&D in a cabin', but it's interesting to me that LARPing is generally considered the height of nerddom. it's a social and active pursuit. not many people would call paintball nerdy (though I guess if you use the Nerdist vocabulary (e.g., 'sports nerds' love to obsess about the players and their favorite teams) then  I guess it could be a military nerd thing).

A big factor is how much effort you have to expend to do the activity.

LARPing is more nerdy than a tabletop RPG in the same way that playing a miniatures game with pre-painted models is not as nerdy as one where you have to assemble and paint everything yourself.  LARPers have to add mountains of hands-on hobby time building costumes and accessories and training with weapons on top of the rules-based character creation/management/tracking they already share in common with tabletop.

Speaking as a regular LARPer, this is not the reason why LARPing is viewed as more nerdy than tabletop roleplaying. It's the fact that you physically embody your character, as opposed to merely mentally imaging it. It's nerdy to invent a character and play a game as that character while sitting around a table. It's amazingly nerdy to invent a character and actually pretend to be that character out in the field.

More people should try it. It's really fun.

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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2016, 10:45:54 AM »
...  Supar Hyperactivity...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuPAR

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suPAR, soluble urokinase-type plasminogen activator receptor, (NCBI Accession no. AAK31795) is the soluble form of uPAR. uPAR is a membrane bound receptor for uPA, otherwise known as urokinase as well as Vitronectin. suPAR results from the cleavage and release of membrane-bound uPAR. suPAR concentration positively correlates to the activation level of the immune system and is present in plasma, urine, blood, serum, and cerebrospinal fluid. suPAR is a marker of disease severity and aggressiveness. [1]

And apparently it can also cause hyperactivity. Who knew? ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2016, 12:10:28 PM »
6 phone calls a day.  What a nightmare.

ETA:  Just checked my phone log.  Have to go back 8 days to get the 6th phone call.  And another 12 days to get the next 6.  :P
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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2016, 12:00:03 AM »
6 phone calls a day.  What a nightmare.

ETA:  Just checked my phone log.  Have to go back 8 days to get the 6th phone call.  And another 12 days to get the next 6.  :P

I had that item as clearly the "Fiction", as it seemed way too high. It worked out at 1 text message every 4 minutes (assuming 16 hours of being awake) I thought it would be more like 50. Which, to me, is still a ridiculously large amount of text messages a day.
My rationale was, that once you have sent 2 messages back and forth isn't it much easier to call and have the conversation.
Obviously I was thinking like a middle aged (54) man, and not a millennial  ;)

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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2016, 04:49:56 PM »
Couldn't it be that woman are conditioned to see it as making them more connected, as much as the reverse?

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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2016, 10:46:20 PM »
Couldn't it be that woman are conditioned to see it as making them more connected, as much as the reverse?

maybe. but what if 'seeing it' makes it so?
if two women say they feel more connected, in what sense might blokes step in and rightly employ social conditioning to dismiss it with a 'naa mate, that doesn't make you feel more connected, your report of what you feel is wrong'?
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2016, 07:26:06 PM »
maybe. but what if 'seeing it' makes it so?
if two women say they feel more connected, in what sense might blokes step in and rightly employ social conditioning to dismiss it with a 'naa mate, that doesn't make you feel more connected, your report of what you feel is wrong'?

Well, the opposite of that was what happened in the podcast. I was bit surprised by the ease of how Cara could suggest that this was something that applied to Bob (feeling more connected but being conditioned to say he isn't) and that it would be hard not to be a slave to social convention, but not mention it could apply to her as well.
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Re: Episode #580
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2016, 07:07:25 AM »
So Cara watches porn on her 6 plus while in bed? Nice! Thanks for that mental image Cara.

Btw if you have a tv in your bedroom and want to free up that hand holding the 6 plus, get yourself an Apple tv and stream it to that. You're welcome.