thanks for the help, I should have put this in the bitching thread. Its probably not clear what i'm trying to do. Im basically attempting to build a simulation of someone booting the machine and surfing the web, normally I would do this with Director or Animate (Flash) or similar, 95 limiting my options to zero. Sometimes I can get away with making a simple click through slideshow with FS viewer but that software wont work either. I think I need someone capable of programming a "game" that runs in DOS based win95. Im not a programmer, I already put out a couple of feelers to some programmer friends and im waiting to hear back, I know there are a few people on here who might be able to do this so i figured what the hell, why not ask. Sorry to be confusing with limited data.