I just checked out the Expelled message boards.
What a mess.
I haven't really been to that board in a long time, but yeah, it was pretty bad (but then, what else could we expect from one of the most notorious ID "documentaries" of all time?). But I've had some actually informative discussions (mostly with people on the fence who just wanted to learn about evolution, or with some of the friendlier creationists), some really frustrating ones, and some insane and hilarious ones - like the time a creationist named OriginalBigWhite argued that Adam and Eve must have had tails to explain atavistic tails. Or when a crazy little dude named Navaros chastised us for thinking of God's penis as that of a human's. That last one was forever enshrined in fstdt
No, God's Penis is not a biological organ. I never said God's Penis was the same as man's penis. Obviously it wouldn't be. That is why I pointed out God has a Holy, Righteous Penis. That is to say, it's not the same as man's corrupted, fleshy one.
As I said when this subject first came up, once again: Penises are not just for sex & peeing. It is only because man is evil that he thinks of penises exclusively in those terms.
Man is made in the image of God the Father. That is the primary reason why man has a penis.
You cannot insert your evil prejudicial ideas of man's penis onto God - which is exactly what you are doing. God's Penis is not equal to man's penis. It's really not hard to understand.
-- Navaros, IMDB 335 Comments [5/15/2009 11:46:44 AM]
And then there was the flamboyantly gay fundamentalist Knight_In_Black_Leather (who, if he was a troll, was one of the most persistent ones I've ever seen), who figured he wouldn't go to hell as long as he didn't actually have sex with a man.
Mostly, though, those discussions drove me to try to understand denialism, religion, and belief systems, as well as to learn more about evolution, cosmology, abiogenesis, and geology. I learned a lot about human psychology even from the frustrating and hilarious ones. We frequently chatted with a fiercely atheistic Iranian guy who, one evening during the Arab spring uprisings, told us he was going out to protest and that he might be killed or imprisoned (unfortunately I never saw him again). And there were some scientists and science lovers posting there as well. At one point I wrote a 40 page summary of an abiogenesis
teaching company course I took (and related reading) in response to one of those discussions, for interested third parties, and that was actually one of the first things I posted here after I started listening to the SGU. And I only found the SGU because someone on IMDB linked to one of the episodes because of their discussions on creationism.
That message board did leave me with two tics, though; 1) a tendency to edit my posts repeatedly, and 2) a complete inability to write short posts; in both cases because I always had to be very precise in those discussions in order to not let the thread devolve into an issue of semantics.