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« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2017, 07:00:49 AM »
I love The Patriot for the action scenes.
I was never all that into Braveheart though.

The battle scenes in Braveheart were very well done and moderately realistic, which is unusual. But the torture porn at the end turned me all the way off ever wanting to watch it again.
Well, except for how the Battle of Stirling Bridge turned into the Battle of Idiot Knights Charging Headlong Into Spears.
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« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2017, 10:36:44 AM »
I love The Patriot for the action scenes.
I was never all that into Braveheart though.

The battle scenes in Braveheart were very well done and moderately realistic, which is unusual. But the torture porn at the end turned me all the way off ever wanting to watch it again.

Mel loves him some torture porn. Wallace did see a pretty grizzly end--Gibson actually sanitized it tremendously.

The thing I hated was him shouting "FREEDOM!!!!" as he was getting disemboweled and/or emasculated.
The idea that a 13th century figure would be fighting for "freedom" is just plain stupid. The concept of the word today would be completely bewildering to Wallace and anyone else in the crowd.

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« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2017, 10:55:27 AM »
Braveheart and 300 both seemed to be settings for American patriotism and fighting the generic oppressor.

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« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2017, 11:01:59 AM »
My biggest issue with The Patriot was that it felt like the producers thought that the American public was too stupid to accept a nuanced look at the American Revolution and instead gave us a horribly black and white "the Redcoats are coming! And they are Nazis!" look at the war that, Jesus, even slid past the issue of slavery when Mel Gibson's character hung out with the former slaves because they were, like, totes on his side and stuff.
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« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2017, 11:16:12 AM »
Braveheart and 300 both seemed to be settings for American patriotism and fighting the generic oppressor.
Meh, I think you are either reading too much or too little into 300.  Too much because it was basically just a pretty action movie.  Too little because the story of the Thermopylae is sort part of the foundational myths of western civilization, not just the US.

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« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2017, 11:46:17 AM »
I don't think Mel Gibson had any intention to tell a historically accurate story for either Braveheart or The Patriot. He was retelling a story the way he wanted to tell it, just like the thousand different King Arthur legends. Look at the Jesus chainsaw massacre movie he made, he just wants a good guy and some bad guys to bleed all over themselves for entertainment.
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« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2017, 12:01:22 PM »
Braveheart and 300 both seemed to be settings for American patriotism and fighting the generic oppressor.
Meh, I think you are either reading too much or too little into 300.  Too much because it was basically just a pretty action movie.  Too little because the story of the Thermopylae is sort part of the foundational myths of western civilization, not just the US.

That's sort of my point, the background and origins is quite different from what was showed on screen.

Though sure, 300 could more easily be seen as the West vs. whatever, since the English weren't the prop that time.

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« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2017, 01:49:10 PM »
Magnolia

Adaptation

The Lord of The Rings

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« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2017, 03:41:30 PM »
Spaceballs

Mel Brookes second worst movie, Maybe 4th, there are a few I haven't seen. 

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« Reply #69 on: March 02, 2017, 03:45:53 PM »
Spaceballs

Mel Brookes second worst movie, Maybe 4th, there are a few I haven't seen.

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I saw it when it came out, and groaned at all the jokes. It fell flat with the audience as well.

What makes or breaks a Mel Brooks movie is the quality of the cast. That one had a lame cast.

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« Reply #70 on: March 02, 2017, 05:13:26 PM »
I love The Patriot for the action scenes.
I was never all that into Braveheart though.

I remember flicking through a movie review book once. Under Braveheart it only said, 'a Scottish version of The Patriot', and under The Patriot it only said, 'an American version of Braveheart'. No further description was given for either film!  ;D