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Offline Redamare

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Policy on shadowbanning?
« on: March 11, 2017, 08:25:04 AM »
Sometimes, being someone with a penchant for self consciousness, self doubt, and even self hate, when I log in and see no response to my posts, I become paranoid that I have said something wrong and gotten myself shadowbanned.

That is to say, banning a poster in such a way that the website treats them like normal except no one but them can see their posts.

Do we have a policy never to do this? If so, it would be one less thing for me to be irrational and paranoid about. Thanks!
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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2017, 10:18:41 AM »
I don't know about a policy, but I don't think we have the technical capability to do this if that helps ease your mind.
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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2017, 12:39:09 PM »
I'll take it.
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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2017, 12:41:37 PM »
I don't know about a policy, but I don't think we have the technical capability to do this if that helps ease your mind.

I think I speak for everyone in the mod cave when I say we a) would have no good reason to do such a thing, and b) couldn't be arsed.  Speaking for myself, I've never heard of this tactic and I think it sounds mean! 

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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2017, 12:43:15 PM »
Yeah I think so, too. Thanks.
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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2017, 06:35:27 AM »
I do know the feeling you are talking about and it does feel shit.
I guess sometimes I just havent made the point I thought I did or someone gets locked in to a particular exchange and wants to focus on that.

Sometimes it may just be a case that a particular post looks like a box nobody really feels like opening if they dont have to?
I know that if I feel there are too many premises that need to be accepted between my view and another persons view then I generally wont bother as the point will get lost on one of those hurdles.

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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2017, 06:54:58 AM »
Ironically until Harry posted to confirm he read your post you could have been shadowbanned so that only admins/mods could see your posts :P
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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2017, 10:27:06 AM »
We have a number of options for bans. We can either ban you from the forum completely or just suspend your posting privileges (like we often do for suspensions). We can also take away your ability to register a new account (by IP address) or prevent you from logging in.

In all of these cases you're notified. 'Shadow bans' aren't in the forum rules, so yes, you can say that the lack of a policy about using them counts as a policy not to use them. I'm also pretty sure that posting announcements of all bans and suspensions in the FAR sub-forum is stated policy.

Rest assured that there is absolutely no reason for us to ban anyone in a surreptitious way, even disregarding the fact that doing so would make us sneaky bastards who abuse their powers.
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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2017, 10:29:39 AM »
I think Johnny Slick has been shadowbanned since 1983.  Ironically it's not by this forum, but by everything else.  We're the only people who know he exists :( :( :(

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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2017, 10:31:16 AM »
If nobody responds to this post with the words "koala kumquat cookie dough" then teethering is correct and I truly have been shadowbanned since the early days of the Internet. :(
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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2017, 02:37:51 PM »
I can actually see a use for such a technique with someone like Awesome220 who won't accept their ban. Trolls who are ignored really do tend to go away, in the end. And, I must confess that, although it may show a character flaw, I would fine it amusing to watch him shouting into the void.
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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2017, 02:51:43 PM »
I think Johnny Slick has been shadowbanned since 1983.  Ironically it's not by this forum, but by everything else.  We're the only people who know he exists :( :( :(
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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2017, 03:43:54 PM »
I can actually see a use for such a technique with someone like Awesome220 who won't accept their ban. Trolls who are ignored really do tend to go away, in the end. And, I must confess that, although it may show a character flaw, I would fine it amusing to watch him shouting into the void.

But then you wouldn't see it.

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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2017, 04:05:02 PM »
I can actually see a use for such a technique with someone like Awesome220 who won't accept their ban. Trolls who are ignored really do tend to go away, in the end. And, I must confess that, although it may show a character flaw, I would fine it amusing to watch him shouting into the void.

But then you wouldn't see it.

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Re: Policy on shadowbanning?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2017, 04:28:05 PM »
Individual users are able to ignore whoever* they want, and if enough users ignore you that could have the same effect.

*Not sure if that applies to moderators. If you set it to ignore a mod that's just asking for trouble.


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