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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2017, 01:12:55 AM »
Honestly, how badly are they going to hurt themselves? And if they do then its between them and Planet Fitness.
If they damage the equipment then again, thats between them and the gym.
Well intentioned though it may be, there is honestly very little as irritating in the gym as someone butting into a workout to tell you that you are doing it wrong and if they heard it from a trainer or 'the internet' then your advice will go in one ear and out the other.

I say mention it to the management if it bothers you but otherwise I'd just let people get on with it.

People in gyms doing stupid shit are going to hurt themselves but people who smoke are probably going to kill themselves. I just kind of assume they made a grown up choice and either chose to go in ignorant or ignore the risks and either way its on them.
Yeah, I agree (and meant to post this a couple days ago)... don't try to help the gym-goer and that goes double if they're a woman, because the experience of so many women at gyms is getting mansplained on how to lift weights by (sometimes) well-meaning men. If they're doing something that wrecks the station or could hurt them, get a trainer, absolutely, but I don't think it's *your* place to tell the person how to lift.
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2017, 01:27:11 AM »
Eh, I think there's a big difference between giving a person "tips" because you're trying to hit on them, vs. telling somebody they're doing something that could hurt themselves, damage equipment, etc..

I realize that this line is both gray and blurry, but I don't think the existence of a handful of assholes out there means we should avoid interacting with strangers for fear of annoying or offending them.
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2017, 01:34:28 AM »
Eh, I think there's a big difference between giving a person "tips" because you're trying to hit on them, vs. telling somebody they're doing something that could hurt themselves, damage equipment, etc..

I realize that this line is both gray and blurry, but I don't think the existence of a handful of assholes out there means we should avoid interacting with strangers for fear of annoying or offending them.
OK, if there isn't a staff member around, sure, go up to them, but even then I'd be aware of the nature of a lot of these kinds of interactions. If there *is* one, just talk to them instead of the weightlifter. Frankly I'd feel the same way if it was a man doing the exercise incorrectly (and in turn I'd appreciate it a lot more if a trainer came up to me and said "hey, I think you're using this station incorrectly and you might hurt yourself; let me show you how to do what you want to do the right way" instead of some rando across from me lifting weights).
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2017, 06:21:15 AM »
Not wanting to mansplain is a big reason to avoid confrontation here, but there isn't a good solution. You can't right an I gerber dad, you just have to let it run its course.

And for reference they have two of these machines for literally the same exercise

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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2017, 11:28:15 AM »
Honestly, how badly are they going to hurt themselves? And if they do then its between them and Planet Fitness.
If they damage the equipment then again, thats between them and the gym.
Well intentioned though it may be, there is honestly very little as irritating in the gym as someone butting into a workout to tell you that you are doing it wrong and if they heard it from a trainer or 'the internet' then your advice will go in one ear and out the other.

I say mention it to the management if it bothers you but otherwise I'd just let people get on with it.

People in gyms doing stupid shit are going to hurt themselves but people who smoke are probably going to kill themselves. I just kind of assume they made a grown up choice and either chose to go in ignorant or ignore the risks and either way its on them.
Yeah, I agree (and meant to post this a couple days ago)... don't try to help the gym-goer and that goes double if they're a woman, because the experience of so many women at gyms is getting mansplained on how to lift weights by (sometimes) well-meaning men. If they're doing something that wrecks the station or could hurt them, get a trainer, absolutely, but I don't think it's *your* place to tell the person how to lift.
So, should I approach the shower pooper about the pooping or not?  :laugh:
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2017, 11:57:41 AM »
Assuming it's not a mystery pooper situation, then absolutely approach the shower pooper. I think you have the right to approach said pooper with a mob of pitchfork people.
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2017, 12:38:45 PM »
Honestly, how badly are they going to hurt themselves? And if they do then its between them and Planet Fitness.
If they damage the equipment then again, thats between them and the gym.
Well intentioned though it may be, there is honestly very little as irritating in the gym as someone butting into a workout to tell you that you are doing it wrong and if they heard it from a trainer or 'the internet' then your advice will go in one ear and out the other.

I say mention it to the management if it bothers you but otherwise I'd just let people get on with it.

People in gyms doing stupid shit are going to hurt themselves but people who smoke are probably going to kill themselves. I just kind of assume they made a grown up choice and either chose to go in ignorant or ignore the risks and either way its on them.
Yeah, I agree (and meant to post this a couple days ago)... don't try to help the gym-goer and that goes double if they're a woman, because the experience of so many women at gyms is getting mansplained on how to lift weights by (sometimes) well-meaning men. If they're doing something that wrecks the station or could hurt them, get a trainer, absolutely, but I don't think it's *your* place to tell the person how to lift.
So, should I approach the shower pooper about the pooping or not?  :laugh:
Approach? Nah. Maybe yell from the other side of the locker room "STOP SHITTING IN THE FUCKING SHOWER I MEAN JESUS CHRIST".
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2017, 01:11:04 PM »
Assuming it's not a mystery pooper situation, then absolutely approach the shower pooper. I think you have the right to approach said pooper with a mob of pitchfork people.
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Trust me, if I knew who it was they would be shamed in front of the entire gym.

There are some extremely old men, and partially disabled old men, and I hope to jesus it was one of them having an accident, but I also know how incredibly sketchy some of these other guys are and would not for a second disbelieve it's some gross asshole. I would personally pass out the pitchforks.  >:D
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2017, 05:52:03 PM »
OOohh. You were serious about the shower pooper?

Eeeeww.



A friend of mine had someone in his office building they would refer to as the "mad bomber", because he would lay paper on the seat, etc, and then make a dump and not flush, so the whole area looked a mess. I don't think they ever figured out who the culprit was.

Shower pooper is much worse.

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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2017, 08:49:18 PM »
Honestly, how badly are they going to hurt themselves? And if they do then its between them and Planet Fitness.
If they damage the equipment then again, thats between them and the gym.
Well intentioned though it may be, there is honestly very little as irritating in the gym as someone butting into a workout to tell you that you are doing it wrong and if they heard it from a trainer or 'the internet' then your advice will go in one ear and out the other.

I say mention it to the management if it bothers you but otherwise I'd just let people get on with it.

People in gyms doing stupid shit are going to hurt themselves but people who smoke are probably going to kill themselves. I just kind of assume they made a grown up choice and either chose to go in ignorant or ignore the risks and either way its on them.
Yeah, I agree (and meant to post this a couple days ago)... don't try to help the gym-goer and that goes double if they're a woman, because the experience of so many women at gyms is getting mansplained on how to lift weights by (sometimes) well-meaning men. If they're doing something that wrecks the station or could hurt them, get a trainer, absolutely, but I don't think it's *your* place to tell the person how to lift.
So, should I approach the shower pooper about the pooping or not?  :laugh:
Approach? Nah. Maybe yell from the other side of the locker room "STOP SHITTING IN THE FUCKING SHOWER I MEAN JESUS CHRIST".

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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2017, 02:16:23 PM »
I'm firmly in the, never ever ever ever ever bother someone at the gym, especially if you are a man and they are a woman, camp. I've had men talk to me at the gym more times than I can count, and not once has it been an actually helpful comment. I've even gotten hurt from being "helpfully" spotted when I didn't want or need it.
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2017, 02:48:14 PM »
I'm firmly in the, never ever ever ever ever bother someone at the gym, especially if you are a man and they are a woman, camp. I've had men talk to me at the gym more times than I can count, and not once has it been an actually helpful comment. I've even gotten hurt from being "helpfully" spotted when I didn't want or need it.

I think this is a good idea, though i will point out I'd seen men doing this same exercise, and one man actually was "stuck" and needed physical help to avoid getting very hurt.

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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2017, 04:45:36 PM »
Honestly, how badly are they going to hurt themselves? And if they do then its between them and Planet Fitness.
If they damage the equipment then again, thats between them and the gym.
Well intentioned though it may be, there is honestly very little as irritating in the gym as someone butting into a workout to tell you that you are doing it wrong and if they heard it from a trainer or 'the internet' then your advice will go in one ear and out the other.

I say mention it to the management if it bothers you but otherwise I'd just let people get on with it.

I think this is a good illustration of the equally valid viewpoint opposite my own. I think people are far too easily irritated by others, and value considerate interaction between strangers over avoiding the interaction with the intention of avoiding possible irritation or offense.

How do you define "too easily" irritated? What is the appropriate amount of irritation at people, in your opinion?
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2017, 05:35:46 PM »
Honestly, how badly are they going to hurt themselves? And if they do then its between them and Planet Fitness.
If they damage the equipment then again, thats between them and the gym.
Well intentioned though it may be, there is honestly very little as irritating in the gym as someone butting into a workout to tell you that you are doing it wrong and if they heard it from a trainer or 'the internet' then your advice will go in one ear and out the other.

I say mention it to the management if it bothers you but otherwise I'd just let people get on with it.

I think this is a good illustration of the equally valid viewpoint opposite my own. I think people are far too easily irritated by others, and value considerate interaction between strangers over avoiding the interaction with the intention of avoiding possible irritation or offense.

How do you define "too easily" irritated? What is the appropriate amount of irritation at people, in your opinion?
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Re: What's the proper etiquette here?
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2017, 07:36:48 PM »
I think this is a good illustration of the equally valid viewpoint opposite my own. I think people are far too easily irritated by others, and value considerate interaction between strangers over avoiding the interaction with the intention of avoiding possible irritation or offense.

yeh. s'why I don't miss the gym at all.
I've met so many awesome fitness people from other training I do. way better than gym culture/gym vibe. and fuck I'm not even that sociable lol.
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