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Episode #617
« on: May 06, 2017, 12:25:27 PM »
Interview with Marc Randazza; What’s the Word: Exaptation; News Items: Exercise Metabolism, Earliest Humans in Americas, Cancer Evolution, David Young Update; Who’s That Noisy, Science or Fiction
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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2017, 01:15:16 PM »
It sounds like Bob's microphone is a bit echoy again this episode.

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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2017, 06:08:47 PM »
One doesn't need to wait to become a fat burning athlete.  There are plenty of low carb and ketogenic endurance athletes.  And the the rest of us can just eat a high fat diet, do intermittent fasting and see remarkable effects on our less than elite athletic endeavours.  No pills, just a tasty and nourishing way to eat.
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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2017, 07:31:58 PM »
I found Mr. Randazza to be crass, flippant, and offensive. There are so many talented scientists and science communicators out there, waiting to share some knowledge. Instead we get crude sexual remarks, and praise of Breitbart and Milo. I kinda regret supporting the SGU during their legal struggles, if it went to this guy's wallet.

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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2017, 12:19:37 AM »
Steve sounded far too optimistic about the "adults" keeping Trump in line.

Within the administration he has appointed cronies and relatives who will do little or nothing to keep him in line.

In the House, we just had Paul Ryan lead a push to overturn a reasonable health insurance law (the ACA), potentially putting health care out of reach of millions, so that he could have his revenge on a black man.

The Senate is led by Mitch McConnell, who last year violated the Constitution by refusing to "advise and consent" as is that body's duty, under the pretense that this appointment should not be made during an election campaign, in order to prevent a black man from adding another moderate to the Supreme Court, but allowed an appointment to the same court by a President who is under investigation by the FBI and is already campaigning for re-election in 4 years. "Adult" behavior, indeed.

The Supreme Court may act in some instances to keep him in line, but if Trump gets to make another appointment, all bets are off.

There won't be any adults in a position to reliably enforce checks and balances against the administration until January 2019, at the earliest.

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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2017, 01:01:34 AM »
Steve sounded far too optimistic about the "adults" keeping Trump in line.on until January 2019, at the earliest.

Steve is a Republican, right? Has he sipped the Kool-ade?



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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2017, 03:13:06 AM »
After googling this Randazza dude, I feel compelled to take a long, long shower. I am dismayed that the Novellas worked with him.

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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2017, 03:28:44 AM »
I thought it was refreshing to hear a bit of politics on the SGU, and get a bit of insight into their take on it. But I'm glad that it's rare.

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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2017, 05:35:58 PM »
Thanks for the robust defence of free speech, guys!  Very refreshing to hear in these days where, as your guest pointed out, we're living in a world of two camps that no longer interact with and demonise each other.

Sadly, this appears to affect a large part of the sceptical community as well...

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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2017, 08:30:04 PM »
  I think what Steve was getting at, knowing that anyone who Googles Marc Randazza will see he's not popular with some left leaning types.  His porn connections are creepy and he's a lawyer too.  What's not to love?  In spite of that, Marc Randazza appears to be one of the best go to guys when you need an ass kicking First Amendment lawyer.  The fact that he reads Brietbart for entertainment or can be Milo who's apologist doesn't bother me.  I'm not going to stop listening to SGU because someone may be a Republican.
   Please, if it should ever be, don't ever set me up on an overnight blind date with a died in the wool Trumpie.  I would have to decline too.  I like to be polite and never say jack about politics to strangers.  If I am face to face with a guy wearing a trump trucker hat then I might feel compelled to say something.  It's tedious because no one ever changes except in infinitessimal increments.  I'd rather stay at the bedbug motel.
  First Amendment protection is a cause very dear to me.  The recent outrage in Berkeley about Milo and Anne was an assault on the First Amendment from the left.  There is a leftist terrorist flashmob vigilante group that call themselves "By Any Means Necessary".  that show up with clubs to kick asses.  BAMN made an appearance and incited violence last summer at a Neo Nazi rally in Sacramento that only a handful of skinheads showed up for. They also are involved with the recent events in Berkeley ready to club someone again.  The press is often blaming the violence on the Trump supporters, but I recognize from the Sacramento incident that it is  the cowards with masks from BAMN again. 

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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2017, 08:52:00 PM »
I'm all for having intelligent and interesting debates with right-leaning people on the show. There are plenty of extremely intelligent, thoughtful Republicans to have a dialogue with. I fully agree that we need to increase communication and empathy across the ideological divide.

My problem is with Randazza, not with the right-leaning politics. The Rogues did not call him out on his misogyny during the interview, or really challenge him at all. The skeptical movement has a major issue with misogyny, and being chummy with this guy doesn't help.

There are plenty of outstanding lawyers who work on first amendment issues. I don't understand why the SGU would hire someone of such low character. The type of people you associate with, both professionally and personally, says a lot about you. Hiring this guy to represent you is an odd choice, at best.

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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2017, 01:56:51 PM »
Wow, Info Wars seems very interesting.

Sounds like they do very good and interesting interviews and are far more reasoned and reasonable than everyone says, plus Alex Jones is really just playing a character like Stephen Colbert did on Comedy Central, and I like "The Colbert Show."

I had no idea that the over-the-top stuff was just "performance art," and it's interesting that it's OK to spread the "opinion" that Sandy Hook was a fake promulgated by "The Feds."

Thanks SGU

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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2017, 12:22:44 AM »
RE: Science or Fiction - it seems to me that scientific literacy may influence the way people conceptualize time.  When I think of time, I think of a line on a graph or a light cone on a space-time diagram.  I wonder how Portuguese native physicists conceptualize time... by linear length or by volume.

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Re: Episode #617
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2017, 12:45:29 PM »
RE: Science or Fiction - it seems to me that scientific literacy may influence the way people conceptualize time.  When I think of time, I think of a line on a graph or a light cone on a space-time diagram.  I wonder how Portuguese native physicists conceptualize time... by linear length or by volume.

I was a bit confused by that item. I talked to a friend who is bilingual in Spanish (complete with a Spanish wife) and after explaining the concept of "time by volume" to him, he looked at me like I was crazy. Don't "poco tiempo" and "mucho tiempo" literally translate to "little time" and "much time", as well as "un montón de tiempo" being "a lot of time"? Not to mention there also seems to be "largo tiempo", largo meaning long. Is there a really a difference to English and if so, what am I missing?  ???

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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2017, 06:24:13 PM »
I was a bit confused by that item. I talked to a friend who is bilingual in Spanish (complete with a Spanish wife) and after explaining the concept of "time by volume" to him, he looked at me like I was crazy. Don't "poco tiempo" and "mucho tiempo" literally translate to "little time" and "much time", as well as "un montón de tiempo" being "a lot of time"? Not to mention there also seems to be "largo tiempo", largo meaning long. Is there a really a difference to English and if so, what am I missing? 
I think it's talking about the representation at an unconscious level .
It's not the possibility to use "little time" or "short time" but what's the common usage. And there're linguists, they're probably right on that, it's kind of thiers bread n butter.