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NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« on: May 12, 2017, 11:56:40 AM »
Wow, Ransomware. . . .I have heard of even police forces being hit by it in teh past

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-39899646

Trusts and hospitals in London, Blackburn, Nottingham, Cumbria and Hertfordshire have been affected.

Some GP surgeries have had to shut down phone and IT systems while A&Es have told people not to attend unless it is a real emergency.

NHS Digital said in a statement that it did not have evidence that patient data had been accessed.

It added that the ransomware attack was not "specifically targeted at the NHS" and was affecting other organisations from a range of sectors.

Among those affected is the East and North Hertfordshire NHS Trust which says it is experiencing problems with computers and phone systems.

It has postponed all non-urgent activity and is asking people not to come to A&E at the Lister Hospital in Stevenage.

IT specialists are working to resolve the problem as quickly as possible, a statement from the trust says.

Also affected is Derbyshire Community Health Services NHS Trust which says it has shut down all of its IT systems following a "secure system attack".

A GP from a surgery in York said: "We received a call from York CCG [Clinical Commissioning Group] around an hour ago telling us to switch off all of our computers immediately.

"We have since remained open, and are dealing with things that can be dealt with in the meanwhile."
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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2017, 01:40:15 PM »
Yeah I've heard of police forces that have simply paid the ransom. When a police agency realizes there's nothing they can do, the odds of Joe Public getting anyone to go after these bastards is nil.
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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2017, 02:15:59 PM »
I recall hearing about a hospital in S. California getting hit by this too. 

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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2017, 03:17:00 PM »
It is affecting 74 countries altogether

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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2017, 05:33:47 PM »
The ransom they were asking for was £ 300, an interview on the Beeb called them script kitties.

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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2017, 05:53:03 PM »
If this is because of NSA backdoors, this has to destroy the entire concept of giving up "privacy" for "security".

Aside of that, it should encourage a move away from relying on operating systems that expire for commercial reasons.
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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2017, 08:48:34 PM »
The ransom they were asking for was £ 300, an interview on the Beeb called them script kitties.

You don't think maybe they called them script kiddies?

Regardless, these things are not perpetrated by teenage hackers, but by Russian organized crime.

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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2017, 09:05:17 PM »
Why don't they keep their data in an off site Linux based server?
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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2017, 09:19:18 PM »
The ransom they were asking for was £ 300, an interview on the Beeb called them script kitties.

Haha, nice. 

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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2017, 07:13:15 AM »
I've read that the sites were all running XP without having the latest security updates.
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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2017, 07:29:07 AM »
I've read that the sites were all running XP without having the latest security updates.

It affected every Windows computer it came across that did not have the  Microsoft Security Bulletin MS17-010 update. It was really bad on corporate networks, because it spreads through LAN like wildfire. All thanks to an NSA exploit that got leaked. Great job, NSA, great job.

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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2017, 07:55:44 AM »
I suspect Monday is going to be a very busy day for Windows sys admins.

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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2017, 08:03:50 AM »
I suspect Monday is going to be a very busy day for Windows sys admins.

Ours are already at work. I don't envy them, their weekend probably ended on Friday afternoon.

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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2017, 08:10:07 AM »
Thankfully our school's network (which I've fallen into the position of apprentice sysadmin for) is all-Mac.  Some students have Windows, but they are responsible for the security of their own devices.
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Re: NHS in England hit by 'cyber-attack'
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2017, 08:18:40 AM »
I've read that the sites were all running XP without having the latest security updates.

Having the latest updates on XP wouldn't have helped them, because support ended 3 years ago. Although now after the fact, there is an update. https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/13/microsoft-windowsxp-wannacrypt-nhs-patch/

Windows 7 security updates end in 2020, and Windows 10 in 2025.

I don't think it's a good idea for major governments to rely on commercial actors for their vital infrastructure. I can see maybe Iceland not affording to build their own systems, although in such a case it should be a lot easier to implement open source software everywhere.

The UK in particular would like to privatize as much as possible, and have been starving the NHS for a while. I wonder if this will be a death knell for the NHS, or a revival as people realize what they've been set up for by their politicians.
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