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Title: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: HighPockets on July 28, 2016, 10:02:54 PM
Forumvision is back! And better than ever. A new Host, A new format, A new slew of songs waiting for a brutal cutdown from the snark masters of the SGUF!

For those needing a review: (quote edited for adjustments in game play and clarity)

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There are Ten players and one moderator. In each round, all of the players submit a song (via YouTube) to the moderator, who shuffles and anonymizes them and presents them back to the players for voting.

Players give each of the songs submitted by the other players one of the following scores: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10. They don't score their own submission. You can't give two songs the same score - you have to give one song 10 and one song 0, even if you hate (or love) everything in the round. Traditionally, the players also provide short comments on the entries, and sometimes guess at who submitted what. The one who scores the most total points is the "winner" of that round - though they don't actually win anything except bragging rights. The game runs for twelve rounds.

Scores are submitted to the moderator rather than posted in the thread. The moderator compiles and posts them all at the same time to avoid favoritism and OMGUS voting.

Games tend to run for a long time - Forumvision 2 lasted for over a year realtime due to peoples' schedules and delays in rating and submitting - so it's a bit of a commitment. However, it's a great way to discover new music, and it's always fun engaging in snarky banter about other players' clearly inferior musical tastes.

I'll mod the game, but i'm going to play as well, also in order to move things along, you'll be submitting all 12 songs upfront so there will be no waiting for submissions to begin a new round. as far as the voting time is concerned, there will be a dead line, and points will be deducted everyday over time.

I'm considering 6 "theme" rounds and 6 "open" rounds for music which I'll post if and when we get a full group of players.

So who's in? signups start today.


1. arthwollipot
2. AQB24712
3. Pants
4. Zaros
5. Andrew
6. Gerbig
7. Drunken Idaho
8. Simon Jester
9. The Latinist
10. Custard1506


List of Themes for the rounds:
Round 1 - Open - Submissions received.
Round 2 - songs that never fail to cheer you up. - Dudes, I need this more then ever, Make me smile!
Round 3 - Open
Round 4 - girl bands, I had too, I am a sucker for a Banarama, a Garfunkel and Oats, show me what else it out there.
Round 5 - Open
Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle, Ha HA, good luck finding it on YouTube! do your best this will be fun.
Round 7 - Open
Round 8 - Best Cover - I can't argue that there are a lot of Great Cover's out there, who did it better than the original? PLS sub the original, if you can find it.
Round 9 - Open
Round 10 - Non-English song - *advantage English is my second language speakers*?
Round 11 - Open
Round 12 - Summer Strut - It's a hot summer day and you're walking through the park, and this is the song that comes on the player that makes you step up your step.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on July 28, 2016, 10:06:56 PM
I'm in!

I'll start building my list of songs immediately.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on July 28, 2016, 10:11:41 PM
I knew you were just waiting for me to post this sign up!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: AQB24712 on July 28, 2016, 10:13:49 PM
Bow down, goobers, I am IN.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on July 29, 2016, 12:02:06 AM
I've produced a full list of 12 tracks. It should be noted that in the system I proposed, though all rounds are submitted in advance, anyone is free to change their selections at any time. The pre-submitting is purely so that if someone doesn't get to it for a while, the round can still be started.

I don't know how my preprepared list of 12 will go with any prepared themes, though I point out that it is currently winter here in Australia.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on July 29, 2016, 07:55:02 AM
I don't know how my preprepared list of 12 will go with any prepared themes, though I point out that it is currently winter here in Australia.

Oh, man, I'm going to have to rethink these themes with a global audience in mind.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on July 29, 2016, 11:26:57 AM
PANTS! slips it in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on July 29, 2016, 03:39:09 PM
I believe i have to play
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on July 29, 2016, 04:17:16 PM
Very much in
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on July 30, 2016, 08:23:34 PM
You're not slipping into my PANTS!

Unless you really want to.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on July 30, 2016, 08:51:51 PM
I believe I approve who slips into PANTS!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on August 13, 2016, 01:12:52 PM
In! I have my 12 ready
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on August 13, 2016, 02:59:10 PM
IN  >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on August 17, 2016, 12:59:42 PM
We're more than half way there.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on August 17, 2016, 03:27:09 PM
I may be bending the definition of "song" for some of these.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on August 17, 2016, 03:28:49 PM
I just picked out 12 for a different forum.....

About halfway through 12 for this forum.  Y'all have better taste here......
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on August 17, 2016, 03:30:42 PM
I may be bending the definition of "song" for some of these.

It won't be the first time.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on August 17, 2016, 03:35:37 PM
I may be bending the definition of "song" for some of these.

Just remember - Green is NOT a creative color.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on August 17, 2016, 03:36:50 PM
Pls no instrumental shit like simon always does
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on August 17, 2016, 03:49:32 PM
Pls no instrumental shit like simon always does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUJ3u9ZX8Uc

;)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on August 17, 2016, 04:34:59 PM
I just picked out 12 for a different forum.....

About halfway through 12 for this forum.  Y'all have better taste here......

Wait, how have you picked them all without knowing the themes?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on August 17, 2016, 04:46:41 PM
Pls no instrumental shit like simon always does

I was debating playing or not but now im certain

sign me up!

twelve 8-10min long mixes with no lyrics coming right up  >:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ac800ELs4U
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on August 17, 2016, 05:20:07 PM
I just picked out 12 for a different forum.....

About halfway through 12 for this forum.  Y'all have better taste here......

Wait, how have you picked them all without knowing the themes?

The themes will come to know my songs.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on August 17, 2016, 05:26:29 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on August 17, 2016, 05:44:32 PM
Pls no instrumental shit like simon always does

I was debating playing or not but now im certain

sign me up!

twelve 8-10min long mixes with no lyrics coming right up  >:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ac800ELs4U
GODDAMMIT  :argh: :bang: :argh:
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on August 17, 2016, 05:45:59 PM
I may be bending the definition of "song" for some of these.

Just remember - Green is NOT a creative color.

Sick reference, brah!  :D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on August 18, 2016, 04:38:01 AM
Yeah, after that I'm reconsidering my mix to be all-instrumental as well.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on October 14, 2016, 10:40:55 AM
We gonna do this?!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on October 14, 2016, 10:52:39 AM
Let's.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on October 14, 2016, 11:29:04 AM
Oh, man, I missed those other two sign ups. I thought we were languishing with only 7 even players. If we get one more we can have an even 10 and I'll rejigger the scoring.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on October 14, 2016, 12:42:32 PM
Bumping for attention!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on October 14, 2016, 04:56:17 PM
Seems like it will be Forumvision 2017 before it gets started.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on October 14, 2016, 06:06:01 PM
There are two ways to rejigger the scoring. Either you can eliminate scores from the top - so the scores run, say, from 0 to 10 - or from the bottom - so the scores run from 1-12. Either works, but I think that the former is better because it is more personally satisfying to give a song 0 points than it is to give it 12. Top score is top score whatever the number is, but zero is always zero.

Of course, if you have more players than you need, you can add additional zeroes, just like the real Eurovision.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on October 14, 2016, 06:10:52 PM
Seems like it will be Forumvision 2017 before it gets started.

yeah, so much for the Song of the Summer. Now we all know it was Cake by the Ocean.

http://youtu.be/vWaRiD5ym74?t=39
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on October 14, 2016, 06:16:25 PM
Seems like it will be Forumvision 2017 before it gets started.

yeah, so much for the Song of the Summer. Now we all know it was Cake by the Ocean.

https://youtu.be/vWaRiD5ym74?t=39

I really like that song.  It rips off Cake tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uwjsG0cRf0
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on October 27, 2016, 08:17:40 PM
Ha, I just noticed that my link didn't even make the video show up. Man, how am I going to run a game when I can't even hyperlink properly.

Love you Madly - 3 - what's wrong with these people? don't they know that they are forming the song of the summer2016! get your act together.

Just need one more person...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...

Forumvision 2017 - Now with even more affordable firepower!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEhWKF-QMbY
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on October 27, 2016, 08:19:58 PM
Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...

Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis. ..Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvi s...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Mor vis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...M orvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis.. .Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis ...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morvis...Morv is...Morvis...

 >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on October 27, 2016, 08:37:16 PM
Everyone, spam your friends and family with invites

my playlist is gathering dust
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: lubbarin on October 27, 2016, 08:37:33 PM
Wanna watch, but my music knowledge is way too square for this crowd- and behind the times.
(Me in 2014) "hey guys, this Richard Cheese dude is hilarious!"
(All of my friends) "Yeah we were already sick of him about 9 years ago"
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on October 27, 2016, 09:02:11 PM
lubbarin have you looked through all the songs i put in? i get last 90% of the time. 1 time i somehow i won a round.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on October 27, 2016, 09:16:38 PM
My songs are not enjoyable to most people, I have no expectation of winning. I just want to display them.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on October 27, 2016, 09:25:00 PM
i refuse to let you people beat me to last place...that title is mine!!!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on October 27, 2016, 09:28:09 PM
i refuse to let you people beat me to last place...that title is mine!!!


Get on my level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu8SoWv2NS0
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on October 27, 2016, 09:48:47 PM
my playlist is gathering dust

Wait...how can you have made a playlist without knowing the themes?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on October 27, 2016, 09:52:49 PM
my playlist is gathering dust

Wait...how can you have made a playlist without knowing the themes?

I got a list of 50 or so songs, and I figure i can shove at least one of them into a theme

Also, im not 100% sure how this game works.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on October 27, 2016, 09:56:08 PM
Also, im not 100% sure how this game works.

I'm not exactly sure either; but you post made me think I really didn't.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on October 27, 2016, 11:37:04 PM
i refuse to let you people beat me to last place...that title is mine!!!


Get on my level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu8SoWv2NS0

I give it a 10 for creativity
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on October 28, 2016, 02:16:57 AM
My musical preferences consist of lower case 'c' classical music (prefer Romantic and 20th Century) and metal. I'm ready to burn this place to the ground!

SHUN THE INDIE CONFORMISTS! BRING YOUR NONCONFORMIST STYLES TO THIS CONTESTS!!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on October 28, 2016, 02:33:00 AM
NO FUCKING INSTRUMENTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on October 28, 2016, 02:46:43 AM
NO FUCKING INSTRUMENTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm submitting nothing but solo bagpipes.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on October 28, 2016, 03:38:56 AM
NO FUCKING INSTRUMENTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With this, I am definitely changing my list to be ALL instrumental. I have plenty.

Why do you hate instrumentals so vehemently?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on October 28, 2016, 08:17:32 AM
NO FUCKING INSTRUMENTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With this, I am definitely changing my list to be ALL instrumental. I have plenty.

Why do you hate instrumentals so vehemently?

I used to lullaby him to sleep by humming the Chariots of Fire theme.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on October 28, 2016, 08:21:56 AM
I'm just humming this first 15 seconds of songs, putting it on a loop, and then applying random synthesizer transformations.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on October 28, 2016, 08:46:54 AM
NO FUCKING INSTRUMENTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm submitting nothing but solo bagpipes.
Jokes on you i hear bagpipes everyday at college and like it. Go Scots!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Custard1506 on November 02, 2016, 04:50:41 AM
I'm in! might need a quick rundown of the rules and how to submit songs.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 02, 2016, 05:02:56 AM
New member or sock puppet?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 02, 2016, 06:56:57 AM
I'd like to introduce my son, Custard1506. I totally bullied him into signing up to the forum specifically to play this game.

No, that's not true. I actually threatened to withhold his allowance.

No, that's not true either. He's old enough and ugly enough to hold down a job now. He was actually really keen on this game when I described it to him, and he even has moderately tolerable taste in music.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 02, 2016, 10:15:34 AM
Awesomesauce! Many a pleasant evening was spent discussing with my son the merits of songs from the last game. Welcome Custard!

Let me figure out what I did with my list of themes. In the mean time go ahead and sent me your round one submissions. I'll clarify voting and any other things that we need sorted once all the submissions are in. 

Round 1 - Open round! - Bring out your best, We'll settle the rest.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 02, 2016, 10:20:46 AM
Just to confirm, this round is unthemed?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 02, 2016, 10:23:39 AM
Yes, no theme this round.

 I adjusted the OP a little bit, originally I said I'd play but now I'm thinking it will be easier to just moderate. I also said you would have to send in all songs at once. but I don't know that will be nessary, but that may change if things start to get bogged down like the last time.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 02, 2016, 10:36:49 AM
I have to admit that sending all songs in at once was the rule that enticed me into joining.  The long waits in the last game was what made me not want to come back after the crash.   If we are not sending in all of them can we at least set deadlines? 

Sent from my Z981 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 02, 2016, 11:15:51 AM
Oh man, so just send in a good song then?  Alright, gosh, wow I'm overwhelmed by all the options and freedom here, but will send something in by the end of the day.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 02, 2016, 11:18:42 AM
I need to think a bit more, but I will have one in by the end of the day, too.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 02, 2016, 12:26:42 PM
I have to admit that sending all songs in at once was the rule that enticed me into joining.  The long waits in the last game was what made me not want to come back after the crash.   If we are not sending in all of them can we at least set deadlines? 

Sent from my Z981 using Tapatalk

I agree, when I get home and find my list of themes, we can amend that rule and I'll have you guys send in the whole deal. I was just so excited about even getting started, I thought this would be easier.

Oh man, so just send in a good song then?  Alright, gosh, wow I'm overwhelmed by all the options and freedom here, but will send something in by the end of the day.

Har, Har, Har....
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 02, 2016, 01:16:49 PM
cool, thanks, Ill have my song in later tonight for sure.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 02, 2016, 02:37:46 PM
While he is here, he really oughtta play some Mafia.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 03, 2016, 03:12:22 AM
Yes, no theme this round.

 I adjusted the OP a little bit, originally I said I'd play but now I'm thinking it will be easier to just moderate. I also said you would have to send in all songs at once. but I don't know that will be nessary, but that may change if things start to get bogged down like the last time.

Again, the intent is that you send a full list of 12 songs to the moderator at the beginning of the game. You can change any of them at any time, but if you can't make it to the keyboard for a while and you miss a deadline, you've already got something submitted and no-one has to wait for you.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Henning on November 03, 2016, 02:09:01 PM
I'm looking very forward to Morvising y'all this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyTqXqRuYq0
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 03, 2016, 02:09:50 PM
NEIN, ICH NICHT HAST!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 03, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
My goal is not to get parma-banned during round 3 this time.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 03, 2016, 03:02:32 PM
uh, guys. The hard drive on my home PC crashed overnight, and I'm one of those, "backups are for sissies" kind of guys. So I'm gonna have to do some data recovery over the weekend.

I've got two submissions so far, and I promise that I'll have a list of theme rounds before we start the game so you all can submit full lists, before we get to the voting phase of round one.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on November 03, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
Going out of town for a few days, but I'm excited about this and will send the list this weekend!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 03, 2016, 08:51:31 PM
uh, guys. The hard drive on my home PC crashed overnight, and I'm one of those, "backups are for sissies" kind of guys. So I'm gonna have to do some data recovery over the weekend.

Assuming you've learned your lesson, I highly recommend CrashPlan (http://www.crashplan.com/).
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 04, 2016, 02:20:31 AM
I just keep everything in the Cloud.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 04, 2016, 08:47:46 AM
I have several redundant hard drives.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: AQB24712 on November 04, 2016, 03:34:01 PM
Tsk, so much filthy euphemism.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on November 04, 2016, 05:06:45 PM
Tsk, so much filthy euphemism.

All I'm the eye of the beholder...
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 04, 2016, 05:56:41 PM
By the way, Custard won't be checking the forum on a daily basis, so he's relying on me to tell him when something happens. I'll show him how to set up an email subscription to the thread if I can remember how to do it myself.

So something happen already!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on November 04, 2016, 06:18:39 PM
I dont email subscribe. That's how they get ya
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 04, 2016, 06:23:33 PM
Yeah neither do I. But it might be a reasonable way of getting updates to him. Though I'm not sure it would be ideal since it would send him an email every time there's an update, which when the game gets going is likely to be almost every day.

He also doesn't have a real computer right now, so he's only accessing the forum on his phone.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 08, 2016, 02:19:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Yy6c0Tlvk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK1jjD1gWOc

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 08, 2016, 02:54:02 PM
Can we get this going already?  I need something to distract me from the election wait.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 08, 2016, 11:22:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mR3ZUB_Nx8
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 08, 2016, 11:41:01 PM
I need a distraction from reality!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 08, 2016, 11:48:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXyHf_SpUUI
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 09, 2016, 02:22:28 AM
I'm ready to get going as soon as you like, and I know Custard is as well, though he's not going to be checking the board regularly.

Some people have said that they're not sure how the game is going to work. If you have any questions about the rules or anything, I'm more than happy to help out.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 09, 2016, 10:29:08 AM
Sorry, you guys. I've got four submissions of songs for round 1. I'd guess that some people are waiting for the full list with Theme rounds. I'll get that updated on the OP today. but you can still submit one song for round one and then we can get the voting phase started.

and yeah, if you have questions I'm sure Arth. and I can come up with a reasonable answer.

round one is an open round, submit any song you want. once I get all 10 songs, I'll post a randomized list and you'll all listen and then send me your ranking from top to bottom. then I'll post scores and hopefully I'll have songs for the second round that I'll be able to post for voting.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 10, 2016, 01:20:09 PM
Have you tried PMing people to let them know that the game has started.  It's been so long starting that some of them probably aren't frequently checking the thread.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on November 10, 2016, 04:15:03 PM
Is there a submission format you'd prefer, to make formatting your posts easier? (song, by band or band-- song, etc.)

Are people including commentary about their song choices?

I've sent a song in for round 1 and will begin compiling a list. Wooo!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 10, 2016, 04:33:24 PM
Wait, do we have a theme list yet?  Where is it?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on November 10, 2016, 05:24:47 PM
STEP 1: Send a single song for the unthemed list
STEP 2: Wait for everyone else to do the same
STEP 3: The theme list will be posted
STEP 4: Send the rest of your songs
STEP 5: Vote and so on
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 10, 2016, 08:13:42 PM
Thanks Gerbig. Tuesday night devastated me. I have no idea what to think or do or what....

I'm waiting on first round submissions from:
ART
AQB
CUST

I was going to do only four themed rounds, if you all want more than that I could do six of the twelve, but I just don't know how creative I can be at this moment. My mind is in a very sad state.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: AQB24712 on November 11, 2016, 01:59:06 PM
Mine's in!  Sorry, all!  Let's play!

I suggest "protest songs" as a theme, then.  Or "songs that never fail to cheer you up."

Hugs 'n' stuff, HighPockets.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on November 11, 2016, 02:34:09 PM
we could always have a zaros round. pick your worst song
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 11, 2016, 02:59:32 PM
In honor of Leonard Cohen dying how about, Best Cover
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: AQB24712 on November 11, 2016, 04:43:46 PM
In honor of Leonard Cohen dying how about, Best Cover

Pfft, I already won that with JC Brooks and the Uptown Sound's "I Am Trying to Break Your Heart."  ;)

But yes, I really enjoy hearing cover interpretations!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 11, 2016, 05:05:21 PM
Ok, I'll fire up the randomizer when I get home and post round one, and the list of theme rounds.

Do I need to set a dead line right from the start? or just start with threats and insults?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: AQB24712 on November 11, 2016, 06:23:41 PM
Do I need to set a dead line right from the start? or just start with threats and insults?

 :laugh:  I think the threats and insults come into play as the deadline draws closer.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 11, 2016, 06:50:09 PM
Why cant we treat it like Mafia (unless Arth is running >:D  ) set a deadline right from the start, those that dont turn in their scores by the deadline don't get counted and we move on. Perhaps make a rule that if someone does not send in scores 2 turns in a row they get eliminated

Personally I feel this game should go quick then when its over another game can start.  I would be more active if the game is more active, if we dont have something to do every 3-4 days I will get board. Of course If I am in the minority ill try to play along however you want.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on November 11, 2016, 06:54:23 PM
Yeah, I'm with Simon. If i procrastinate and fall by the wayside, my loss--shouldn't have to hold up everybody else.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 11, 2016, 09:22:40 PM
OK, here we go Round 1, Forumvision 2016-17!

Now what you need to do:
*  Listen to the songs,
*  rate them in order from a 10 to a zero,
*  keep in mind that you don't rate a song as a 9 or a 7  (because one is yours - that you're not voting for, and one is a zero (most likely submitted by Zaros).
* send in your scores to me with an (optional, but clearly loved and loathed) critique of each of the songs. Which will be posted when all results are in.

Theme Rounts are posted on the OP. Because this is a special opening round. You have through thanksgiving weekend, That's November 27 to submit your votes and your 11 songs for rounds 2 through 12.

Questions? Whatever...we'll figure it out as we go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV4_xaYynY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3XQcCyyPc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzbEtG6wElA

https://youtu.be/odeHP8N4LKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oacUgWXrqwc

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRtd8ArvH_s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRtd8ArvH_s)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hucg-Ru-Zgk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SREZ-ggSDjM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWGk2R2gHEU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky-O8lo6FQA
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 11, 2016, 10:18:32 PM
Are we missing a song  or am I too tired to count properly?

it was tapatalk , i can see all of them on the pc

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Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 12, 2016, 02:40:29 AM
I've informed Custard that the round has been posted. I may get to this tonight, but I also have a round over at ISF, so it might be a couple of days.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 12, 2016, 07:25:46 AM
for any of you geographically- challenged by one of the songs. try this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFptt7Cargc

remember this is a process, and we'll all get through it together, and be better at the end.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 14, 2016, 02:44:38 PM
I've got them tentatively ranked, but I think I want to listen through them all again before submitting.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on November 14, 2016, 11:39:08 PM
Giving the list a first listen-through now.

It helps me to have posts in this thread to remind me to get on it.

So here is a post to help remind you folks to also get on it!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 15, 2016, 01:39:14 AM
I only ever give each one listen. You have one chance to impress me!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Custard1506 on November 15, 2016, 02:32:48 AM
Was a pretty solid list, but I struggled through.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on November 15, 2016, 11:00:52 AM
Im in, love my list, every song felt right for the round.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 15, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Im in, love my list, every song felt right for the round.

Wait, the full list is up?

Quote
List of Themes for the rounds:
Round 1 - Open - Submissions received.
Round 2 - songs that never fail to cheer you up. - Dudes, I need this more then ever, Make me smile!
Round 3 - Open
Round 4 - girl bands, I had too, I am a sucker for a Banarama, a Garfunkel and Oats, show me what else it out there.
Round 5 - Open
Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle, Ha HA, good luck finding it on YouTube! do your best this will be fun.
Round 7 - Open
Round 8 - Best Cover - I can't argue that there are a lot of Great Cover's out there, who did it better than the original? PLS sub the original, if you can find it.
Round 9 - Open
Round 10 - Non-English song - *advantage English is my second language speakers*?
Round 11 - Open
Round 12 - Summer Strut - It's a hot summer day and you're walking through the park, and this is the song that comes on the player that makes you step up your step.

All right!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 15, 2016, 11:40:32 AM
HighPockets: just to confirm, we are not wedded to our list when we submit it, correct?  If we want to tweak it over the course of the game, we can?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 15, 2016, 12:13:43 PM
HighPockets: just to confirm, we are not wedded to our list when we submit it, correct?  If we want to tweak it over the course of the game, we can?

Yes, you can change, but you'll have to do it before I post the results of the previous round, because once I put up votes I will also be putting up the next round.

Also, Gerbig came up with a brilliant idea of creating a YouTube play list for his list and then just sent me the link to that instead of links to every song. If you all can figure that out, that's an excellent way to submit your entire list.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 15, 2016, 01:03:33 PM
YouTube list?   Hmmmmmmmm


That'd be fabooo for a Mod to do.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 15, 2016, 02:47:49 PM
Mine are in.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 15, 2016, 03:12:55 PM
HighPockets: just to confirm, we are not wedded to our list when we submit it, correct?  If we want to tweak it over the course of the game, we can?

Yes, you can change, but you'll have to do it before I post the results of the previous round, because once I put up votes I will also be putting up the next round.

Oh, I understand that I won't be able to change one a round's songs have been posted.  I just wanted to know that if it becomes apparent that the racists on this board won't vote for my list of afropop electronica I can change it out for some National Socialist black metal.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 16, 2016, 05:54:55 AM
I really wish you hadn't put the list of themes in the first post. I absolutely never go back to the first post in any thread. Maybe mafia games occasionally. But otherwise never. It just does not occur to me to look there for it.

Can I request a reminder of the theme at the beginning of each round?

Also, do we have a deadline? I may still be a couple of days.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 16, 2016, 10:08:42 AM
I really wish you hadn't put the list of themes in the first post. I absolutely never go back to the first post in any thread. Maybe mafia games occasionally. But otherwise never. It just does not occur to me to look there for it.

Can I request a reminder of the theme at the beginning of each round?

Also, do we have a deadline? I may still be a couple of days.

Deadline is Sunday November 27, I made this one a little longer since you are voting and submitting a list for the rest of the rounds.  Are you not planning on submitting a full list of entries with your votes? I can post what the next round is before hand, but I should already have a full list of submissions from everybody already. you really only need to look at the theme list once.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 16, 2016, 11:19:24 AM
Just realized it's perfect for another round, so edited this out.

EDIT -

Submitted!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 17, 2016, 04:27:31 AM
Deadline is Sunday November 27, I made this one a little longer since you are voting and submitting a list for the rest of the rounds.  Are you not planning on submitting a full list of entries with your votes? I can post what the next round is before hand, but I should already have a full list of submissions from everybody already. you really only need to look at the theme list once.

I recommend using the site pending.me.uk to generate a countdown graphic that automatically adjusts to the local timezone.

Yes, I am planning on submitting a full list, but I have to think about it. I had some tracks prepped, but since I missed when you posted the theme list I'm going to need some time to work up my list.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 17, 2016, 04:53:47 AM
I was going to do this tonight, but it turns out that my connection is being utterly crap right now, so I can't. :(
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 21, 2016, 04:00:39 AM
You're probably all waiting on me now, and I apologise for holding the game up. I fixed the problem that was causing my connection to be crappy, but I've just been really busy and/or unmotivated. I will have time to do my round (and send in at least the next few upcoming rounds) tomorrow evening. Promise.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 21, 2016, 12:40:00 PM
I have not put mine in either although I do have them in order and a good idea of whats I want to write.  Deadline is not for a week yet after Thanksgiving and I will probably put it off until then which is why I need the deadline. 



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Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 21, 2016, 02:05:26 PM
I think the deadline on this round is *way* too long.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 21, 2016, 02:34:19 PM
I think the deadline on this round is *way* too long.

I think it was done that way because this deadline also includes submitting all your songs.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 21, 2016, 03:29:09 PM
Yeah, that. I'm going to have to think pretty hard about my songs. I've got a few lined up, and I could use them for the unthemed rounds, but the theme rounds are going to be difficult for me to fill. But I'll get at least the next few rounds submitted before the deadline - probably tonight as I said - and catch up with the rest in the next few days.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 21, 2016, 03:33:09 PM
It's still way too long.  Long deadlines kill games like this.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 21, 2016, 03:48:51 PM
I can get mine in by Wednesday evening, possibly before then but its hard to type between shooting scenes unless you are waiting on me and just want my song order minus my comments.

I also agree with Lat, the deadline is too long and long deadlines kill games. The 27th seems far away.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 21, 2016, 06:42:45 PM
Does it have to be a Woman Band?  Or does a solo act suffice?  And does it have to be all women?  I mean, I call The Breeders a Woman's band, but you got ole Jim Macpherson fucking things up.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 21, 2016, 08:10:27 PM
Sorry guys, I did set the deadline out a little further then I would have liked, but I felt that the Thanksgiving weekend cut off was a good stopping place, and as has been said, it was to cover the submission of your songs list.
My father-in-law passed away, and we just had the "remembrance of a life" this weekend, and there's been all the other stuff that comes with settling an estate. So all things considered the timing of this deadline actually worked out pretty good. I haven't parsed any submissions, votes or lists yet, so I can't tell you exactly where we stand, but those that haven't submitted yet, you know who you are, partial lists are acceptable, but votes and comments have to be in by the 27th, or your song GETS NOTHING! AND YOU'LL LIKE IT! and the next round will be posted in the following week. 

Does it have to be a Woman Band?  Or does a solo act suffice?  And does it have to be all women?  I mean, I call The Breeders a Woman's band, but you got ole Jim Macpherson fucking things up.

I guess I'm OK with a female "front man" / Solo Artist, but you'll have to face the wrath of the voting masses as to whether you met the criteria of the theme.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 21, 2016, 08:20:30 PM
Sorry guys, I did set the deadline out a little further then I would have liked, but I felt that the Thanksgiving weekend cut off was a good stopping place, and as has been said, it was to cover the submission of your songs list.
My father-in-law passed away, and we just had the "remembrance of a life" this weekend, and there's been all the other stuff that comes with settling an estate. So all things considered the timing of this deadline actually worked out pretty good. I haven't parsed any submissions, votes or lists yet, so I can't tell you exactly where we stand, but those that haven't submitted yet, you know who you are, partial lists are acceptable, but votes and comments have to be in by the 27th, or your song GETS NOTHING! AND YOU'LL LIKE IT! and the next round will be posted in the following week. 

Does it have to be a Woman Band?  Or does a solo act suffice?  And does it have to be all women?  I mean, I call The Breeders a Woman's band, but you got ole Jim Macpherson fucking things up.

I guess I'm OK with a female "front man" / Solo Artist, but you'll have to face the wrath of the voting masses as to whether you met the criteria of the theme.

TOO LATE.

I worked around it, and now you got two awesome songs from what are 100% girl bands.  One of them happens to have a guy in it.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 21, 2016, 08:28:26 PM
Personally my requirement for "girl band" is that it has at least two credited female members and that there be no credited men.  Session musicians and anonymous backup bands are okay.  Supremes?  Fine.  Dianna Ross solo?  Not fine.  Bangles? Fine despite occasional use of session musicians.  Breeders?  Not fine.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 22, 2016, 02:35:16 AM
Okay. I've sent off my list of submissions. The hardest for me was the last theme - "summer strut". For me, summer is nothing but pain. I do not enjoy it and you would never catch me walking in the park in the summer heat unless I had absolutely no choice. I hate summer - it's the absolute worst time of the year. Finding a song that fit this theme was extremely difficult. I have one, but I'm not entirely happy with it.

I'm going to score the round now.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 22, 2016, 02:47:11 AM
IMPORTANT: The last video in the list has been removed by the user. Unless a replacement is found within the next half an hour, I'm afraid that I have to give it 0.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 22, 2016, 07:49:06 AM
That's a pretty dick move, Art. Especially since we've still got days to deadline.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 22, 2016, 09:22:13 AM
That's a pretty dick move, Art. Especially since we've still got days to deadline.

I am 75% sure he was joking.

Personally my requirement for "girl band" is that it has at least two credited female members and that there be no credited men.  Session musicians and anonymous backup bands are okay.  Supremes?  Fine.  Dianna Ross solo?  Not fine.  Bangles? Fine despite occasional use of session musicians.  Breeders?  Not fine.

Well, I went with someone who unambiguously met all those criteria, but lets get real.  I have to call to question any criteria that states that The Breeders is not a girl band.*  I can see where you are coming from, The Lat, but lets not toss the Breeders out with the bathwater, for the want of one sausage.  It was founded by two women.  Fronted by two women.  They wrote almost all the songs, including their hits, and the man in the group is the drummer.   :P 

*Unless that criteria is to say it is a woman band.   ;D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 22, 2016, 10:13:43 AM
Well, as High Pockets pointed out, we each get to decide for ourselves what constitutes a "girl band" — both in choosing our songs and in ranking.  You're free to submit the Stones' "Start Me Up" as an "advertising jingle" because it was once used in a Microsoft ad, too; but I'm free to rank it a zero as out of theme.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 22, 2016, 03:29:33 PM
That's a pretty dick move, Art. Especially since we've still got days to deadline.

I am 75% sure he was joking.

No, unfortunately I wasn't. It was either do it this way, or not do it at all. Since I've been having trouble with motivation and procrastination, once I've decided to do something, I have to do it and not put it off until later again. I can't simply add it in after - my brain doesn't work that way. Sorry to whoever it was. Next time, pick something that doesn't have copyright problems.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 22, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
That's a pretty dick move, Art. Especially since we've still got days to deadline.

I am 75% sure he was joking.

No, unfortunately I wasn't. It was either do it this way, or not do it at all. Since I've been having trouble with motivation and procrastination, once I've decided to do something, I have to do it and not put it off until later again. I can't simply add it in after - my brain doesn't work that way. Sorry to whoever it was. Next time, pick something that doesn't have copyright problems.

Fair enuf.

I'm out.  I am pretty sure this will not be fun if that is going to be the tenor of the game.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 22, 2016, 04:11:20 PM
Here's another version of that song I believe (though I wasn't the original submitter, so I can't verify that it's 100% the same recording):

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU8Z-VJ3W9Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU8Z-VJ3W9Q)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 22, 2016, 05:05:56 PM
I would bow out gracefully rather than be a total dick to everyone else. I'm with PANTS!, I'm at the point of quitting the game if it's going to be played this way.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 22, 2016, 05:31:34 PM
I don't want this to become a battle...  I'm actually looking forward to this.  :-\
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Gerbig on November 22, 2016, 05:36:18 PM
Yea, Im still in, dont really care if people are being dicks. Im mostly into this to discover some new music.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on November 22, 2016, 05:38:33 PM
You people need to learn to enjoy my jams. Let's play
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 23, 2016, 01:15:51 AM
Yeah, I just read what I wrote while sleep-deprived this morning before work, and I don't blame you. I'd be out too if that was said to me. I apologise for the tone and content of that post.

I can't go back and unsay it, so I'll just say that I hope you can ignore what my asshole-self said and keep on playing. My asshole-self is an asshole, even to me.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 23, 2016, 05:40:02 AM
Okay, I've rejiggered my scores to give the missing track a 4, which is the median score, rather than a 0. When a replacement track is sent in, I'll give it a listen and if I really like it or really hate it I'll adjust my scores again accordingly.

Is this fairer? I don't want to be the cause of the game not going ahead, especially since I got my son involved and he'd be really disappointed if that happened.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 23, 2016, 06:39:40 AM
That seems fair. Sorry for any drama on my part.  Lets hear some music!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 24, 2016, 02:34:37 AM
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/flaming_thumbs_up.gif)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on November 24, 2016, 04:23:24 PM
lol, art.

Those in it to win it: I solemly swear you're going to beat me. I'm including no "try to get good scores" strategy in my selections whatsoever, just sharing music what I like.

Also, plz can we has the deadline in the thread title?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 24, 2016, 05:12:36 PM
Okay, I've rejiggered my scores to give the missing track a 4, which is the median score, rather than a 0. When a replacement track is sent in, I'll give it a listen and if I really like it or really hate it I'll adjust my scores again accordingly.

Is this fairer? I don't want to be the cause of the game not going ahead, especially since I got my son involved and he'd be really disappointed if that happened.




Andrew already posted another version of the song.  Or you could google "Beyoncé Daddy Lessons."

HighPockets: Could we get the title and artist in plain text above or below each video so that it will be easier to locate alternatives for ourselves if the same thing happens again?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 25, 2016, 02:57:43 AM
HighPockets: Could we get the title and artist in plain text above or below each video so that it will be easier to locate alternatives for ourselves if the same thing happens again?

I agree with this - it would make it much easier all around, for a number of reasons, some of which have to do with the way I record my responses to each track on my computer.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 25, 2016, 03:10:26 AM
Okay, I've given the track a listen and slotted it in to my full list of scores, with appropriate comments.

Speaking of which, this is a little tradition I seem to have started over at The Other Place - here are excerpts from my comments, listed in alphabetical order:

...almost painful...
Better than the worst...
...genuinely not too bad.
I didn't know...
I enjoyed this...
I found this particular track dull.
It still went on...
...pretty reasonable.
This has to be my top score.
This was awful.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 25, 2016, 03:19:09 PM
I like that idea, but instead of all alphabetically, I'll share excerpts from three comments in random order (though not chosen randomly):

It's hard for me to decide which was worse: the song or the video.
Whoever submitted this is going for lowest score.  Right?
On a second listen it dropped quite a way down my rankings.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 25, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
I arrange it differently each time...
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 28, 2016, 12:03:41 AM
Points for not taking themselves seriously (I hope)
Not cool at all
There was no need to listen to the song.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: AQB24712 on November 28, 2016, 12:49:57 PM
Damn, y'all.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 28, 2016, 12:55:43 PM
Who are we still waiting on ?   >:(
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 28, 2016, 02:48:51 PM
I don't think we're waiting on any of you. I just got off of one of the worst on-call rotations of my career. I was going to do scores this weekend but I was beat. Look for scores, comments, and round two by Wednesday.

Sorry, this game is getting off to a rocky start. I promise to improve game play as things progress. 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: AQB24712 on November 28, 2016, 03:53:06 PM
Aw, poor critter.  Wednesday is soon.  I can wait to see all my 12s.  ;D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on November 28, 2016, 05:43:20 PM
Aw, poor critter.  Wednesday is soon.  I can wait to see all my 12s.  ;D

Yup - you will get 6 of them

6 ones
and 6 twos

 :laugh:   :-*
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 29, 2016, 09:45:47 PM
Holy Shit! compiling all this crap is a nightmare of differing mediums.  Arth. I am in totally awe of your ability to take everyone's disparate scoring choices, filter out the other submissions and changes, put it all in context and keep a game like this moving at all!
I have a goal of getting it all put together by tomorrow, but WOW, I didn't think that this would entail such a breakdown of data.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 29, 2016, 10:06:16 PM
Sorry.  Double post
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on November 30, 2016, 04:54:44 AM
Holy Shit! compiling all this crap is a nightmare of differing mediums.  Arth. I am in totally awe of your ability to take everyone's disparate scoring choices, filter out the other submissions and changes, put it all in context and keep a game like this moving at all!
I have a goal of getting it all put together by tomorrow, but WOW, I didn't think that this would entail such a breakdown of data.

You're starting to understand why I burnt out before my game was finished.  :(
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on November 30, 2016, 10:25:49 PM
OK round one scores! Even with Pants! handicap of me f-ing up everything about his submission he still managed to pull out a tie for first place.

arthAQBPantsZarosDrewGerbigDISJLatCustTOT.
ArthLooking Glass#6210510432547
AQBMasterPiece4#50222181034
PantsDaddy Lessons 610#560086647
ZarosToo Cool For School556#361010339
DrewGold Gun Girls8841#5323842
GerbigI Believe I can Fly12381#550025
DIAppassionata Ex Machinea1011283#45438
SJLand0486086#4137
LatAll Along the Watchtower 3003441010#236
CustLet It happen23104101861#45

I'll be posting comments in a bit, I'm not even sure what the best way to do that is going to be. and if anyone knows of a post that explains the best way to take a spreadsheet and convert it to a SMF table, send me a PM because just getting this to look this bad was a pain in the butt.

I have the day off on Friday, I'm going to post round two then, and then you'll have two weekends to listen and submit scores before deadline. (I want to do better with Title-Artist notations and if I can I'll verify if there are restrictions for links that have been submitted. )
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on November 30, 2016, 10:43:04 PM
and if anyone knows of a post that explains the best way to take a spreadsheet and convert it to a SMF table, send me a PM because just getting this to look this bad was a pain in the butt.

can you post this publicly because I have been trying to figure this out for some time now.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on November 30, 2016, 11:00:23 PM
and if anyone knows of a post that explains the best way to take a spreadsheet and convert it to a SMF table, send me a PM because just getting this to look this bad was a pain in the butt.

can you post this publicly because I have been trying to figure this out for some time now.

CSV. Replace all commas with , add a tr rd... you know what maybe I should just make up a script to do it.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on November 30, 2016, 11:54:18 PM
I find it fascinating that some people who agree with me on one song will feel the polar opposite about another.

I have a question for my fellow players:

Is there anyone here who felt another player's song was better than his or her own?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on December 01, 2016, 01:19:50 AM
i got 5th......w000000000000000t
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on December 01, 2016, 01:20:47 AM
nice round
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on December 01, 2016, 03:18:18 AM
and if anyone knows of a post that explains the best way to take a spreadsheet and convert it to a SMF table, send me a PM because just getting this to look this bad was a pain in the butt.

can you post this publicly because I have been trying to figure this out for some time now.

CSV. Replace all commas with , add a tr rd... you know what maybe I should just make up a script to do it.

On Tapatalk the table appears as a complete mess, I wonder if your script would fix that as well.


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Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on December 01, 2016, 03:31:02 AM
I find it fascinating that some people who agree with me on one song will feel the polar opposite about another.

I have a question for my fellow players:

Is there anyone here who felt another player's song was better than his or her own?

Your song was probably better than mine but I would rather listen to mine because yours is so commercialized, in fact as you will see in my notes I didn't even bother listening to yours.

Both your song and mine influenced a lot of artists, you can't really say that about any of the others. I put Beyoncé in the same "superstar" category but I'm not sure if she is as influential as the other two musically.   "Is it a song that they will still be playing in 20 years? " is the first thing I ask about a song when judging. 


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Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on December 01, 2016, 05:18:28 AM
Is there anyone here who felt another player's song was better than his or her own?

I would have had some trouble determining between my 10-pointer and my own song, if I had had to rate my own. But it was a very different kind of music, and I don't think they really compare very well. I think I probably would have rated DI's above my own for the same reason I put it above everything else - it was different and the artist demonstrated real skill with his instrument.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on December 01, 2016, 06:32:15 AM
and if anyone knows of a post that explains the best way to take a spreadsheet and convert it to a SMF table, send me a PM because just getting this to look this bad was a pain in the butt.

can you post this publicly because I have been trying to figure this out for some time now.

CSV. Replace all commas with , add a tr rd... you know what maybe I should just make up a script to do it.

This is what I do.  I have a macro set up in Google docs.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 01, 2016, 06:52:27 AM
I find it fascinating that some people who agree with me on one song will feel the polar opposite about another.

I have a question for my fellow players:

Is there anyone here who felt another player's song was better than his or her own?

Yes, a couple in fact.  Though I intentionally kept my choice for round one more mainstream than other free round selections will be.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on December 01, 2016, 09:00:02 AM
Along those lines, I played around a little with Google Forms as a way of having the players submitting their scores and comments.  The only hurdle I couldn't clear was how to authenticate the player, but we could just go on the honor system, I guess.  That said, it does leave open the possibility of actual error - ie without authentication one might mistakenly submit scores under the wrong name.

My thinking was that if I got that part working, then maybe we could get a forumvision scorebot account set up that could trawl the google form then spit out who has submitted, and then fire off the scores once the last set is sent in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on December 01, 2016, 09:12:43 AM
Simon Jester, I really wanted to like your for similar reasons, but I just couldn't bring myself to.  That song in particular has just always bored me.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on December 01, 2016, 11:09:25 AM
Ah fuk I thought I did this already! Well here are the things. One of the songs was deleted from youtube as of right now, and since there's no title/artist in the thread, I have no idea what it was. :(

I like to include comments usually, but I am WAY late, so I'm just trying to get my scores in asap. I've given them all multiple listens, so I like my rank, but sorry I can't tell you why I think your choice is awesome/terrible. Jimi was the only song I really enjoyed here, but I also didn't think anything was awful.

The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along The Watchtower - 10

Tame Impala - Let It Happen - 8

Land - Patti Smith -6

Me First And The Gimme Gimmes - I Believe I Can Fly -5

Looking Glass - The Birthday Massacre -4

Gold Guns Girls - METRIC - 3

Big Thief - Masterpiece - 2

Fountains Of Wayne, Too Cool For School - 1

*file deleted* - 0 (Post the song title/artist in the thread plox, so that we can look it up if this happens!

I cant remember how this game scores so I put them in my order and will figure it out on the next round, sorry

This is a three way battle between Hendrix, Smith and Beyonce’, these three artists will influence music forever, the rest seem insignificant. I chose Patti Smith so for me it’s a battle between Hendrix and Beyonce’  Patti was clearly the winner here but im not sure the rest of you will agree based on this list.

Hendrix. All along the watchtower. There was no need to listen to the song, its source code in my brain by now. Everybody's brains,  It’s commercialized to death for a reason, It’s a really good song, it makes you feel things, it represents an era.

Beyoncé - Daddy Lessons ft. The Dixie Chicks Like Hendrix, her performance will influence music forever but why this song? I would have scored several of her songs higher than Hendrix and if I scored like a normal person this song would have been lower but still we are talking about The Queen here not to mention those country chicks so this belongs at the top of the list.

All the others...

Tame Impala - Let it happen: this was just OK

Me First and the Gimme Gimmes - I believe I can fly : points for not taking themselves seriously ( I hope)

Allegaeon Appassionata Ex Machinea: Oh look yet another metalhead who can play classic guitar … yawn

Looking Glass - Birthday Massacre:
lets combine 20 different alternative tricks into one song… yawn

Gold Guns Girls - Metric:
not much to say here

Big Thief - Masterpiece: nor here

Fountains of Wayne - too cool for school : not cool at all

10 Too Cool for School - Funky and easy on the ear, with just enough of interest to edge out the competition.
8 Masterpiece - Liked the gritty rhythm guitar and the dissonant solo grew on me.  I found the lyrics uninspired, though.
6 Daddy Lessons - Love the brass, and the Dixie Chicks are excellent musicians. Ultimately I couldn't connect to the song in a way that would put it at the top.
5 Apassionata ex Machinea - this was quite interesting, and beat out some others I thought I would like better.  But ultimately it's not Forumvision material.
4 Land - I wanted to love it because it's Patti Smith, but ultimately found it boring. It saddened me.
3 Gold Guns Girls - This was a tough one.  It was initially interesting and had a fair hook, but it was repetitive and ultimately wore on my ear. On a second listen it dropped quite a way down my rankings.
2 The Birthday Massacre - It's hard for me to decide which was worse: the song or the video. For the sake of fairness, I even listened to it without the video but still couldn't summon more than a two for it.
1 Let it Happen - The video was actually kind of interesting, but the song is the kind of bland electronic drivel that I simply cannot stand.
0 I Believe I Can Fly - Whoever submitted this must be aiming for low score.  Right?

Okay. This is the last and final version of my scores. I promise.

ROUND 1

The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along the Watchtower: 3. Some people say Jimi Hendrix was a genius. I've never been able to hear it.​ To me, he's just an ordinary musician. Sure, he has talent, but no more or less than a million other musicians. I found this particular track dull.

Me First And The Gimme Gimmes - I Believe I Can Fly: 1. Why do people always have to make songs fast? It's a very overused trope. This was awful.

Fountains of Wayne - Too Cool For School: 5. Pretty generic alt-rock, but sounds pretty reasonable. There were a few good moments.

Tame Impala - Let It Happen: 2. The voice treatment is annoying me. It sounds like an audio engineer's in-joke. The low-pass filter on the drum track is also an extremely simplistic and unimaginative process. The record-skip section was almost painful, especially when it turned into a filter sweep. I was doing more interesting things in 1984, in my high school electronic music class. To be fair, I didn't have access to a vocoder. Finally, it went on for too long. Like, five minutes too long.

Big Thief - Masterpiece: 4. Inoffensive, but literally nothing interesting going on. Better than the worst, but not as good as the best.

Metric - Gold Guns Girls: 8. I enjoyed this more than I thought I was going to given its opening.

Allegaeon - Appassionata Ex Machinea: 10. This has to be my top score. Some real instrumental skill on display here. I love watching people do things that they're really good at. Good show.

The Birthday Massacre - Looking Glass: Mine. I didn't know about this group until recently, but I've liked everything of theirs that I have heard.

Patti Smith - Land: 0. I've never liked Patti Smith, and this has not given me a reason to. I felt at 2:00 that I had heard the whole song, and I was not wrong. It still went on for another seven minutes. I cut it off at five.

Beyoncé - Daddy Lessons: 6. This was genuinely not too bad. I'm not the biggest fan of country, though my girlfriend has introduced me to a few elements of it. This sounded pretty reasonable, though I doubt I'd listen to it in company.


Scores!

0- me first: good song, shit cover. Blonde guy looks like Guy Fieri and that upsets me. Screaming 90's so hard they broke their Walkman.

1- Patti Smith: Rubbish intro, mumble mumble mumble. Goes for 9 minutes!. Doesn't make much sense, could be the mumbling. Couldn't even finish it.

2- Jimi: Please don't crucify me. Guitar is great.... but that's about it. Rest of the music seemed boring and uninteresting. One trick pony.

3- fountains if wayne: good guitar riff. Very singalongy and somehow sounds very nostalgic.

4- Allageon: first half sounds like the music you would hear when you enter a friendly town in an RPG. Great fingering (heh), a bit westerny but has a very full sound for being solo acoustic.

5- Looking Glass: great opening but the vocals are a bit of an ear sore. The melodies seem to go with them well though. I do like the keyboard and guitar combo, but, the song is unfortunately repetitive.

6- Queen B!: intro is great, when the bass comes in it just sounds amazing. Almost country sounding, but actually tolerable. Chorus is good, and the brass in the verses are great.

8- GGG: Very good from the get-go. Complete ear worm. Guitar sounds great in this. Debating adding this to my personal playlist.

10- Big Thief: Jesus that Backhoe nearly hit that bridge!! Harmonies are great. The song is very simple yet very precise and elegant. I like the sound of her voice. Definitely adding this to my playlist.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on December 01, 2016, 11:10:07 AM
Forumvision 2016 Round One Baby!  Wow, nothing here was less than okay.  We’re off to a good start!

Beyoncé and Dixie Chicks, “Daddy Lessons”  10
What, this is what all the rednecks were so upset about?  This is really good!  The lyrics are pretty dumb-to-meh, but the music’s swell.  Dixie Chicks are really talented.  And you know I can’t resist a horn section.

METRIC, “Gold Guns Girls”  8
Well, yes, how about that opening guitar riff.  This song is recommended by a student as “one of two METRIC songs I like,” and I like it too.

The Birthday Massacre, “Looking Glass”  6
At first I was confused about what was the name of the band and what was the name of the song, and I thought “wow, that sure is an updated sound from the folks who brought us ‘Brandy.’ “  This is a fine driving-fast-with-the-music-loud kind of thing.

Fountains of Wayne, “Too Cool for School”  5
Isn’t this band too “mainstream” for Forumvision?  Don’t care, this is some pretty catchy shit.

Patti Smith, “Land”  4
It’s Patti Smith’s land; we just live in it.  I had no idea where she was going with this…wait a minute…Land of a Thousand Dances?  Ha!  Go on with your bad self, Patti.

Tame Impala, “Let It Happen”  3
A little trippy.  I fell right into the groove without noticing.  And sometimes not bad advice….

Me First and the Gimme Gimmes, “I Believe I Can Fly”  2
I liked this more on subsequent listens, after originally thinking it was kind of an obnoxious cover of an insufferable song. Now I kinda dig it.

Allegaeon, “Appassionata Ex Machinea”  1
While respecting dude’s skill, and understanding the whole “omg death metal guy can really play” angle, this didn’t hold my attention all that well. 

Jimi Hendrix Experience, “All Along the Watchtower”  0
Yes, iconic, classic, and all that.  It doesn’t suck, but I’m just kinda tired of it.



Big Thief, “Masterpiece”
Friend of a friend’s band. :) Adrienne Lenker controls her warbly voice to good effect, and the guitars fill me up. 


0 - Land - A bear on the stair sees the sea, but I don't see the possibility of giving this a score beyond the (the see-ya!) wall with Johnny.  I am more interested in the drugs behind this song than the song itself.

1 - I Believe I can Fly - A decent cover, but it doesn't really add anything to the original, just a straight up genre swap.

2 - Masterpiece - More a fan of her voice than the song itself.

3 - Too Cool for School - Decent, but not really my style.  Just a personal taste thing.

4 - All Along the Watchtower - An oldie, but a goodie.  I'm torn because it's a great song, but it's one I know all the words to already, and I do want to reward points for introducing me to new things.

5 - The Birthday Massacre - I really wish her voice were rougher.  I'm nit-picking though because I like the song.

6 - Daddy Lessons - Fun song.  Nice jam fest.

8 - Appassionata Ex Machinea - I dig this.  Single musician + post production can do some cool instrumental stuff.  The composition itself presents enough variation while sticking to a central refrain.  Nice.

10 - Let It Happen - A hauntingly nihilistic tune that slowly envelops you...  Double plus good.

1. Jimi hendrix Experience----------3 A so called legend but i could never get into this one
2.Me first and the gimme gimmes----------8 better than the original surprisingly
3.fountains of wayne--------my song million points
4.Tame impala----------4 wtf is even going on
5.Big thief---------0 grossssssssss
6.Gold Guns Girls---------1 hmm.....alright
7.allegaeon----------2 normally would have been a 0 but big thief pissed me off more
8.Looking glass----------10 even more of a wtf is even happening but god damn that was some good stuff
9.Land/Patty Smith---------6 had to turn it up so high at the beginning only to have it fuck my ears seconds later. well done
10.Beyonce---------5 meh


The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along The Watchtower: 00 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WjK7k1fpW4
Allegaeon - Appassionata Ex Machinea: 01 - I was a little worries that would be mastubation, and he held off for at least half the song.  And even then, he was always verybeautiful.  Quite enjoyable.
Tame Impala - Let It Happen: 10 - Damn these guys are good.  Whoever you are, you ganked my future submission you poo-neck jerk face!  But I do love their stuff, and this is one of their better ones
Looking Glass - The Birthday Massacre: 02 - Her voice is really good.  The rest is not my bag but I did really like how they pulled it off.
Me First And The Gimme Gimmes - I Believe I Can Fly: 04 - Somebody thinks they are wittier than they are.  Seriously tho, this is at best a base hit, but coulda been a home run, so it does dissappoint.
Gold Guns Girls [Official Music Video] - METRIC: 04 - Pretty strong punk pop.  Reminds me of Blondie if they stuck around for the age of electronica.
Big Thief - Masterpiece: 05 - Nice - rminds me of Wilco.
Fountains Of Wayne - Too Cool For School: 06 - Oh I know who sent this in!  Do I give it a listen, because lord knows I've heard it hundereds of times?  Oh HELL YES IS DO.  Love them crunchy ass guitars, and them hand claps.  And keyboard solo blows my balls back.  I'm glad it so short - they couldn't take much mopre torsion.
Patti Smith - Land: 08 - Fuck it gives me chills.  Every damn time.
Beyoncé - Daddy Lessons: mine - The CMA's reaction to this kinda gives lie to the idea that it's not at least somewhat about racism.

overall - Great round!  There wasn't one I didn't like.  I had to bump some down because of ubiquitousness, or them being in a genre that I don't love as much, but I think I +1ed all of them except for Jimi.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on December 01, 2016, 11:38:12 AM
PANTS!, what is that even supposed to mean?

There seem to be quite significant differences in judging philosophy, with some people putting a premium on originality or novelty.  I'll confess that I don't give a damn about either, and that anyone who places a premium on it will likely not like any of my songs. *shrug*
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 01, 2016, 11:43:07 AM
PANTS!, what is that even supposed to mean?

There seem to be quite significant differences in judging philosophy, with some people putting a premium on originality or novelty.  I'll confess that I don't give a damn about either, and that anyone who places a premium on it will likely not like any of my songs. *shrug*

People are in it for different things.  A great song I already know will still beat a really lousy song (subjective I know).  However, I'll put a song I haven't heard and like above a song I love, but already knew about.  That's part of my judging standards and you can have your own.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 01, 2016, 12:21:29 PM
Also, so people know, I listen to all these songs using high quality noise cancelling headphones, without watching the video.  Not that I'm an audiophile (and admittedly I think most people's stuff will be low quality for the ad jingle round).
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Zaros on December 01, 2016, 12:26:25 PM
pants did you accurately predict that too cool for school was my song?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on December 01, 2016, 12:36:07 PM
Oh, I wasn't saying that my standards were better than anyone else's; merely pointing out that they are different.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on December 01, 2016, 12:57:41 PM
Yea this is a strange game with an even stranger group of players. (I don't necessarily mean that negatively) Do we pick "great songs" that we know charted well in order to win the game or do we try to pick obscure music in the hopes that someone will be turned on to something new they like so much they score it high? I tried to do a little of both in my list.  Everything I picked has a high influence level or top charting spot but I went out of my way to pick some genres that not everyone will have experience with. I have trouble judging based on what I personally like and as a DJ I cant help but judge based on how I think the song will effect a larger crowd.

That was not my favorite Patti Smith song but I knew I wanted to post something off of Horses and I thought I saw Morvis post Gloria in the past. The song is part cover but I believe she makes the Fats domino part her own (just as she does in Gloria with Van Morison) Really I just wanted the younger players to hear it, I was thrilled that Zaros gave it a 6 and it "fucked his ears".

I do think not listening to a song all the way through is bad form even if you dont like the song, you missed out on the "La Mer(de)" section of the song that she wrote, perhaps I'll drop Lou Reeds Metal Machine Music Part 1 from my list if your not going to listen to whole songs  >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 01, 2016, 01:01:39 PM
Fair enough, but nobody better submit Freebird!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on December 01, 2016, 01:11:38 PM
Fair enough, but nobody better submit Freebird!

Thats an automatic $100 tip if you want me to play that in the real world.   >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on December 01, 2016, 01:15:10 PM
PANTS!, what is that even supposed to mean?

There seem to be quite significant differences in judging philosophy, with some people putting a premium on originality or novelty.  I'll confess that I don't give a damn about either, and that anyone who places a premium on it will likely not like any of my songs. *shrug*

I have just had my fill of this song.  Like 100 plays ago.  This song is why I quit watching BSG.  I could die happy if it were never played again.  It's not your fault - and in no way do I think it detracts from it's place in the cannon.  But for me, fuck that song.  And beyond that - and this is gonna make everyone plotz, I'll bet - I really do not care for Hendrix.  He is a shit vocalist, and I find his guitar work far too masturbatory and noodly.  It sets my teeth on edge.  Again - I wholly recognize that he changed rock guitar forever - and for the better, and I am sooooo glad that he did.  But I really don't like to listen to his stuff.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 01, 2016, 01:18:28 PM
Fair enough, but nobody better submit Freebird!

Thats an automatic $100 tip if you want me to play that in the real world.   >:D

Once saw a guy play the first part at a talent show, and then when it was solo time the fire alarm went off.  I was 95% sure that he set that up to happen...  Damn it, now I need to listen to it!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=np0solnL1XY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np0solnL1XY)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on December 01, 2016, 01:25:39 PM
Simon makes the point perfectly. where do you draw the line between a song you really like and a song that you think will garner more points.  The biggest problem with playing the point game is that you'll never know what you're going to be going up against. You think you've got everyone beat with that Bollywood musical number, and some shlub comes along and submits Copacabana and tanks your chances.

I'll post round two tonight so if anyone want to change the song that never fails to cheer you up, let me know.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on December 01, 2016, 01:29:21 PM
Here is a link to the super crude form I set up. 

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6CiD7RyDRNRcMpQ-c9Iz8u-mnF_RUeRQvryRZZUlc7-Q7Ng/viewform

Currently it saves the info to a sheet which can use macros to parse the form output.

If you would like to hack on it to improve it, let me know, and I can add you as a collaborator.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on December 01, 2016, 01:33:30 PM
Do we pick "great songs" that we know charted well in order to win the game

For open rounds, I chose what I feel are great songs, and most of them had some degree of popularity.  I did not do so to try to win the game however; my main goal in choosing my list was to please myself. I also wanted to give you an idea of what my own musical tastes are.  Jimi Hendrix' version of All Along the Watchtower, for instance, is, in my opinion, the best rock cover of all time.  It is also something I never tire of hearing.

The themes made a few weeks difficult for me.  There aren't really any songs among those I consider great that fit the "summer strut" theme, for instance; and for jingles I went with pure nostalgia over any musical quality.  I fully expect to be trounced in that round.  Incidentally, I will seriously penalize any song that I do not feel the theme of a themed round. 

I don't expect to win this game, so I won't be disappointed on that score. I was disappointed that there were so few tracks in this round that I actually enjoyed, though.

PANTS!, what is that even supposed to mean?
I have just had my fill of this song.  Like 100 plays ago.  This song is why I quit watching BSG.  I could die happy if it were never played again.  It's not your fault - and in no way do I think it detracts from it's place in the cannon.  But for me, fuck that song.  And beyond that - and this is gonna make everyone plotz, I'll bet - I really do not care for Hendrix.  He is a shit vocalist, and I find his guitar work far too masturbatory and noodly.  It sets my teeth on edge.  Again - I wholly recognize that he changed rock guitar forever - and for the better, and I am sooooo glad that he did.  But I really don't like to listen to his stuff.

That's all fair. I just don't see how that Monty Python song conveyed any of that.

where do you draw the line between a song you really like and a song that you think will garner more points.  The biggest problem with playing the point game is that you'll never know what you're going to be going up against. You think you've got everyone beat with that Bollywood musical number, and some shlub comes along and submits Copacabana and tanks your chances.

That's why I'm not playing the points game at all.  I've chosen songs that either 1) I think are great or 2) best fit the theme.  Ideally I found both, but in some cases theme had to take precedence over greatness, as I said above. For this coming round, I submitted the song which never fails to cheer me up despite the fact that I do not think it is a "great" song and have no expectation that anyone else will.  Of course, in light of both these facts, I can probably expect it to be a runaway winner.  :laugh: 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on December 01, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
I honestly have not submitted my summer song yet.  I'm not thrilled with the category.  Arth said he was going to do something in the final round of the last game that I never took part in where we submit a song for each player, how did that work out?
I was kinda hoping that would be repeated in this game but im happy to keep with the summer theme if thats what you want HP.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Drunken Idaho on December 01, 2016, 03:29:17 PM
Quote
5 Apassionata ex Machinea - this was quite interesting, and beat out some others I thought I would like better.  But ultimately it's not Forumvision material.

The best compliment one could receive in this game, thanks! I learned in the last game that "forumvision material" consists almost entirely of indie/alt rock. Now, I like that genre quite a lot, but instead of trying to "win" at forumvision I instead decided to submit songs from a variety of genres which I personally get a kick out of, and that at least one or two people will hopefully say, "yeah, cool, I like that too!"
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Simon Jester on December 01, 2016, 03:59:56 PM
Can we drop the Indy/Alt rock title? what exactly is "independent" if a record company is still distributing it? "Alternative" to what? good music?

To me alternative means something you didnt get to hear on the radio in the early 90s, an alternative to the mainstream, today it means Pop rock without a guitar solo.  >:D

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on December 01, 2016, 04:27:30 PM
That's all fair. I just don't see how that Monty Python song conveyed any of that.

I'm just riffing off the title of the Python song.  It's meant to be Morrisettian irony.  Like the idea that they won't play Hendrix's "All Along the Watchtower" on the radio, because they probably will, at least a couple more times.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on December 02, 2016, 02:38:30 AM
I honestly have not submitted my summer song yet.  I'm not thrilled with the category.  Arth said he was going to do something in the final round of the last game that I never took part in where we submit a song for each player, how did that work out?
I was kinda hoping that would be repeated in this game but im happy to keep with the summer theme if thats what you want HP.

The Bonus Round is an optional round after everything else is finished.

For my part, I never sumbit songs just for the points. I submit songs that I like and that I think you ought to hear. That's all. Anyone who's followed my progress in the games at JREF/ISF will know that I routinely score at or near the bottom by the end of the game. Except for that one game where I won by posting all songs from the 80s.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on December 02, 2016, 06:29:31 PM
Uh, Ok, I'm actually still waiting for a song list from Custard, and DI. but i have DIs round 2 song. so I only need Custards to post round two. I sent him an PM, but don't know if he'll see it.

Arth if you could ping him that would be great.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: arthwollipot on December 02, 2016, 07:19:55 PM
Will do, though he is away on holiday for this week. I thought he said he'd already submitted a song list.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: Custard1506 on December 02, 2016, 08:39:24 PM
Sent list.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: The Latinist on December 04, 2016, 11:26:44 PM
*poke*
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: HighPockets on December 05, 2016, 01:36:50 PM
Round 2 - songs that never fail to cheer you up. 

Considering how great I am at keeping deadlines, I'll give you the week and the weekend to listen and vote, Scores will be due by December 12th.

Keith Urban Wasted Time

https://youtu.be/PMqUat-Oqsk

Grateful Dead - Franklins Tower

https://youtu.be/IqQ-0n2I-4o

Jive Bunny And The MasterMixers - Swing The Mood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygIcyOSITgo&list=PLzzS9DiENa91EBahy9yV9mh54lxZqUNuE&index=1

OK Go, This too shall pass

https://youtu.be/qybUFnY7Y8w

Electric Light Orchestra - Mr. Blue Sky

https://youtu.be/swYdKF1MpWg

Verg Collection, Our Place

https://youtu.be/f83-jov0F2E

Love Shack - B-52s

https://youtu.be/9SOryJvTAGs

Indigo Girls -Closer to Fine

https://youtu.be/HUgwM1Ky228

Mud, “Dyna-mite”

https://youtu.be/XSuA_km4-bE

The Glenn Miller Orchestra - In The Mood

https://youtu.be/6vOUYry_5Nw
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Simon Jester on December 05, 2016, 08:51:47 PM
All of a sudden im not in a very cheery mood  >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Zaros on December 05, 2016, 11:55:55 PM
ive been blasting mine and one other one lol
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 06, 2016, 02:57:33 AM
I probably won't get the chance to get to this until Thursday.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: PANTS! on December 07, 2016, 09:23:25 AM
pants did you accurately predict that too cool for school was my song?

I had an inkling that maybe it was yours given that papa likes the band.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 07, 2016, 09:45:19 AM
I haven't had a chance to listen to these yet.  I wish I'd had them over the weekend.  Now I may not get to them until this weekend.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 07, 2016, 09:58:56 AM
There are two songs there, where if mine loses to them, I won't feel bad at all.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: PANTS! on December 07, 2016, 10:48:32 AM
Review Samples (in no particular order)

The program manager at my college radio station used to complain about me playing lesbians with guitars all the time
autotuned midi banjo
Thanks for sharing.
weird wacky guitar work
too noodly
I wonder now if McCartney used that as inspiration for "Day In the Life"
remember the Stars on 45?
near the bottom
happy making clump.
Reminded me of Sweet or the like.


overall - Damn fine round people!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 07, 2016, 10:50:40 AM
I haven't had a chance to listen to these yet.  I wish I'd had them over the weekend.  Now I may not get to them until this weekend.

yeah, it was my intention to give two weekends and the week in between for scoring. because I know I always liked to listen on the weekend too.

I'm not going to say that this is a soft deadline for Monday. But....
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 07, 2016, 10:50:58 AM
The program manager at my college radio station used to complain about me playing lesbians with guitars all the time

 :D  Not too hard to see which one that's about.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: PANTS! on December 07, 2016, 11:08:19 AM
The program manager at my college radio station used to complain about me playing lesbians with guitars all the time

 :D  Not too hard to see which one that's about.

Well I could be about Syd Straw, Michelle Shocked, Suzanne Vega*, Melissa Ethridge, k.d. lang, Tracy Chapman, Tegan & Sara, Phrank, Ani DiFranco, Tori Amos*,**, Paula Cole, Shawn Colvin, etc.

*May only be lesbian adjacent
**May not always play guitar
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 07, 2016, 11:15:59 AM
The program manager at my college radio station used to complain about me playing lesbians with guitars all the time

 :D  Not too hard to see which one that's about.

Well I could be about Syd Straw, Michelle Shocked, Suzanne Vega*, Melissa Ethridge, k.d. lang, Tracy Chapman, Tegan & Sara, Phrank, Ani DiFranco, Tori Amos*,**, Paula Cole, Shawn Colvin, etc.

*May only be lesbian adjacent
**May not always play guitar

Stop that!  The next themed round is female bands!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 07, 2016, 01:52:50 PM
Like Desert Fox, I thought this round was much stronger, overall.  Let's see the next one even stronger!

A note on my judging philosophy in this round: given the theme, my primary consideration will be the song's cheering qualities.  A secondary consideration will be the song's artistic merit.  A less-cheering song could edge out a more cheering one based on artistic merit.

Some excerpts from a selection of comments:

Now that’s not generic.

Finally some talent and some lyrics with meaning.

Actually kinda depressing.

Interesting video.  The song I would not willingly listen to again.

Sorry, you get one song, like everyone else.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 09, 2016, 03:31:38 PM
Going into the weekend I've only received two sets of scores for Round 2.  Soft Deadline is Monday.

Enjoy your weekend with some nifty happy songs.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Simon Jester on December 09, 2016, 03:42:50 PM
Going into the weekend I've only received two sets of scores for Round 2.  Soft Deadline is Monday.

Enjoy your weekend with some nifty happy songs.

ill have plenty of time to get mine in over the weekend

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Gerbig on December 09, 2016, 04:01:18 PM
In no particular order. I randomized it.

Round #1:

The singer sounds almost tired, or low energy when they sing. I dunno, sounds like a phoned in effort, but mebey that fits the genre better. Also, the sound mixing is annoying, the vocals are a touch below the guitar. Bad stuff.

The video is trying to hard to say something. Not a fan. Plus it sounds like it was conceived by a 14 year old. But the song itself is nice and high energy and clean. I would add it to my workout playlist.

This band has another song? Who knew. Its not bad, but not as bad as their big one.

Not a fan. I like meatloaf strangely enough, and a lot of his songs sound like a bunch of different songs stuck together, but this is that in a bad way.

The video and the song are married to each other. Whoever conceived of the video did a really good job of getting the tone and action correct. Nice effort. Song is just okay though.

Ooooo, production on this song is great. Both the music and the video. Clean and snappy. Song is also great, sounds like a great action movie montage song, preparing for the big fight.

Im a sucker for good picking, I can only ever seem to get a few fingers to work at a time when I try it.

An unmitigated classic. You cant help but feel the millions of times this song has been played and appreciated. I don’t really like it, but I like its place and meaning in music history.




Round 2:

This song reminds me of so many bad movies using it in their scenes. Still, the psychedelic video mixed with the song, I cant help but like it.
 
An example of the the kind of country I like. Its upbeat, not focued on long legs, whiskey, and trucks, and it makes me want to dance. Still, good country is still country.

These guys look like they are having fun. It sounds like they had fun writing, recording and playing this song. I cant help but have fun with them. Lovely

This song is all chorus, the chorus makes it. Its almost unrecognizable without it. It reminds me of people who do karaoke and shyly and meekly sing the song, until the chorus comes on, then they just rock that shit.

I bagged groceries at a mom and pop shop as one of my first jobs. For two years, the owners played the same CD full of 18 songs, I listen to them over and over and over again. One of the songs was this one. I cant help but unbiasedly hate it. Sorry

Mebey Its my age, but I cant seem to tap into this song. It sort of becomes noise instead of something to enjoy. Nothing particularily bad about it, just doesnt click with me.

Am I supposed to be judging the videos as well? Because I am easily and readily swayed by a clever video. Yea, im going to use that as part of my criteria.

Im not sure if its a genre of music, or a style of doing music, but some songs just sound like repetative noise to me. A pleasant noise, but just noise non the less. Like its lacking a soul. Video is fun though, looks cheaply made, and that helps the song somewhat.

Ooooo, I like it. I remember listening to old radio serials and listening to songs like this.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: AQB24712 on December 09, 2016, 04:35:31 PM
No, you are not supposed to be judging the videos.  They're not supposed to figure into your score at all.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 09, 2016, 05:13:56 PM
No, you are not supposed to be judging the videos.  They're not supposed to figure into your score at all.

To be fair, there are no rules for scoring.  We're all left to decide for ourselves how to judge.  I personally don't consider the videos when scoring, but I don't think we can call it any kind of a rule.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 09, 2016, 05:15:07 PM
Going into the weekend I've only received two sets of scores for Round 2.  Soft Deadline is Monday.

Enjoy your weekend with some nifty happy songs.

I've scored everything, but I want to give them one more listen.  Last time I found some songs improved on a second listening while some fared more poorly.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 09, 2016, 05:18:54 PM
No, you are not supposed to be judging the videos.  They're not supposed to figure into your score at all.

To be fair, there are no rules for scoring.  We're all left to decide for ourselves how to judge.  I personally don't consider the videos when scoring, but I don't think we can call it any kind of a rule.

Oooooo. yeah, actually AQB is right, the video isn't really supposed to be part of the process. that's weird, because I copied Arth's rules from the other game, but considering how that one started the video rule may have been an addendum later on.
I would make the call that for future rounds, The particular video should really have no weight in your scoring decisions.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 09, 2016, 07:49:42 PM
The don't-consider-the-video rule is not so much of a stated rule, but judging videos does go against the spirit of the game. It is, after all, a song contest. You can quibble about the definition of "song" but the fact remains that it you are judging an audio experience, not a visual one.

So yes, while there is technically nothing to prevent you from figuring in a video as part of your judging criteria, it's not recommended. For a start, some songs don't have clever videos, and if you're figuring in video quality then those songs are immediately at a disadvantage and there is pressure for players to only submit songs that do have clever videos.

I'll be submitting my scores in a couple of hours. I'm not sure whether I told Custard that the round had been posted. I'd better get on to that.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Gerbig on December 09, 2016, 09:28:16 PM
Ill take that into consideration for next round.

Are there any other considerations or restrictions on how one should judge while we're at it?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 09, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
Nothing in particular. Just try to give everything a fair go as much as you can. Judging based on video is not fair to the tracks that don't have videos, for example.

I've submitted my scores. Here are some excerpts, in decreasing order of length:

I doubt I would have noticed this song...
...improved my appreciation...
But then again I say that...
...supposed to sound like...
By no means unpleasant...
I guess it might be okay...
...pretty ordinary...
...wasn't too bad.
...pretty generic.
I love this...
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 12, 2016, 11:35:00 AM
Submitted my scores last night.  A couple of songs moved up or down on a second listen.  The round was generally much better than last week's; there were a couple I was sad to have to rate so low, but they were beaten out by others.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 12, 2016, 12:04:09 PM
I'm waiting on scores from three people. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE! don't make me name names!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: AQB24712 on December 12, 2016, 07:55:21 PM
My scores are in, and here's a bonus cheer-up song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCU9ZKgfwlc
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Simon Jester on December 12, 2016, 09:42:42 PM
sorry, my weekend was shorter than I expected. Im in now.

better than those below
I think this song helped me to become a DJ
and that goes double for this new pop crap
thanks for the rare choice
One of the greatest songs ever written
almost as good as my choice

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 12, 2016, 09:51:33 PM
And that leaves only one...college student...facing finals...and the hurdle of paying for his own spring semester if he doesn't get his votes in...

And the fact that his Dad loves him, and is going to cut him a break, until he sees him face to face on Wednesday, then he has some 'splainin' to do.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 13, 2016, 09:16:56 AM
One of the greatest songs ever written

There's only one song in there that I think could possibly be considered in that category.  I'll be interested to see if it's the same one you've called that.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Simon Jester on December 13, 2016, 09:59:51 AM
One of the greatest songs ever written

There's only one song in there that I think could possibly be considered in that category.  I'll be interested to see if it's the same one you've called that.

I have a feeling you will be disappointed but remember my perspective is different as a DJ >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 13, 2016, 07:42:54 PM
One of the greatest songs ever written

There's only one song in there that I think could possibly be considered in that category.  I'll be interested to see if it's the same one you've called that.

I have a feeling you will be disappointed but remember my perspective is different as a DJ >:D

I won't be disappointed. Perhaps puzzled or intrigued.  If you're placing any of the other songs in that category, I'd love to hear what justification you have for it.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 14, 2016, 11:28:06 AM
And that leaves only one...college student...facing finals...and the hurdle of paying for his own spring semester if he doesn't get his votes in...

And the fact that his Dad loves him, and is going to cut him a break, until he sees him face to face on Wednesday, then he has some 'splainin' to do.

So get his butt in gear!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Zaros on December 15, 2016, 10:59:34 PM
yeah yeah
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 16, 2016, 06:27:45 PM
Round two Scores. Jive bunny will not be getting much air play around here. And although Mud managed three 10s It still couldn't beat ELO in it's happy making.

ArthAQBPantsZarosDrewGerbigDISJLatCustTot.
ArthThe Glenn Miller Orchestra - In The Mood #535548410347
AQBMud, "Dyna-Mite" 4#8101010353255
PantsElectric Light Orchestra - Mr. Blue Sky 54#6882681057
ZarosKeith Urban Waster Time 611#42124021
DrewIndigo Girls -Closer to Fine 8251#51036444
GerbigJive Bunny And The MasterMixers - Swing The Mood 00231#080115
DIOk Go - This Too Shall Pass 2104206#01530
SJGrateful Dead - Franklins Tower 1300336#5627
LatLove Shack - B-52s  1066820510#855
CustVerge Collection - Our place 3810461412#39



I'll get round three up in a little bit, Watch this space.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Zaros on December 16, 2016, 06:30:49 PM
didnt get last, yes.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 16, 2016, 06:35:13 PM
Running total. clearly I need to tweek my Macro a little more, but you get the picture.

Round123456789101112Total
Arth4747000000000094
AQB3455000000000089
Pants47570000000000104
Zaros3921000000000060
Drew4244000000000086
Gerbig2515000000000040
DI3830000000000068
SJ3727000000000064
Lat3655000000000091
Cust4539000000000084
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 16, 2016, 06:48:10 PM
I need DI's Song before I can post the next round.

why don't all of you "encourage" him to finish his full list and get them all in to me.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: Drunken Idaho on December 16, 2016, 07:02:57 PM
Submitted Rd. 3 song... will finish up the list soonishly.  ;D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 2 Deadlline for Votes 12/12/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 16, 2016, 09:27:35 PM
Round three - Open round Deadline in a week December 26, considering it's boxing day, I don't really expect that everyone will have their votes in, so it's a soft dead line.

Beastie Boys - (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party) 

https://youtu.be/eBShN8qT4lk

Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival 

https://youtu.be/ec0XKhAHR5I

Animal Rites · John Congleton and the Nighty Nite 

https://youtu.be/GzJvnJCNvbU

Violent Femmes - "American Music" 

https://youtu.be/3TRF2q-zrj0

Les Claypool's Frog Brigade - Up On the Roof   

https://youtu.be/z-bBN7WfiSU

Brad Davis - Big timber  (New Link, better version, I messed up again)

https://youtu.be/Ex2MxredJm0 ( Old link for refrence:https://youtu.be/WCwwXpfq2C0)

Skinny Puppy - Worlock 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDEhCm0pxCo

They Might Be Giants - Don't Let's Start 

https://youtu.be/pAmFTmCs3IY

Garfunkel and Oates - The Loophole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAbJI2aQFqI&index=3&list=PLzzS9DiENa91EBahy9yV9mh54lxZqUNuE

Brother  D.D Dumbo

https://youtu.be/8rI6-Qyj95o
Alternate (if you don't condsider this a reasonable replacement let me know.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IV96qV-8xw

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 16, 2016, 11:57:23 PM
I may be able to get to these this weekend if I'm lucky.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Simon Jester on December 17, 2016, 12:03:40 AM
Ha ha that was Lats track, LOL   nice!

can we get a comments posting?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 17, 2016, 12:08:43 AM
When I was running the game I ran into a limit on how many characters a single post could take, so I had to split comments into multiple posts.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Simon Jester on December 17, 2016, 12:15:22 AM
You people are not playing fair with this next round  >:D "open" rounds are tough, I dont even know how to judge this one, there are at least 4 HUGE songs that would fit in some of my playlists for certain crowds, I'm really going to have to put some thought into this.  Based on how poorly the last round went i also would have changed my song to shoot for some catch up points but didn't check in to the forum until it was too late.


wth is your problem with the Dead?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: PANTS! on December 17, 2016, 07:32:10 AM
You'll see if comments get posted.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 17, 2016, 07:36:30 AM
Yep, Simon, my track.  I can see how it's a useful song for an event DJ, but I would never consider it one of the best songs ever.  I chose it because its unfailingly cheering.

The only song I'd consider for a best-ever-written list is In The Mood. Even that would be a stretch.

As for Franklin's Tower, it's a solid song but it doesn't fit the theme.  If I needed cheering, it's not a song I'd play.

I fully expect to be near the bottom this week, but I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 17, 2016, 09:02:34 AM
Okay, I've listened through and tentatively scored this round.  I don't anticipate any major movement on a second listen.  Overall, this round is weaker than the last. Select comments:

Wow, that video was hella rapey.
Awesome picking, but the song was just okay.
Cleverness only gets you so far.
One of the best live uses of looping I've seen.
That was hard to listen to, but it had going for it that it wasn't [song I scored 0].
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 17, 2016, 09:06:51 AM
Oh crap, I was so obsessed with figuring out the tables I forgot to post comments. (ugh, I suck at this.)

Hold on, I'll get comments for round two up in a bit.

and another addendum, I used the wrong link for one song, I've updated the song list so before you send in scores make sure to take a listen to the revised version to see if it changed your ranking.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 17, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
Comments for Round Two:

0 - (OK Go) This too shall pass - I judge based on music, not the videos.  This means OK Go submissions aren't generally going to get great scores from me because (this song being no exception) their videos and production value are great, but their music serves as little more than background music to choreograph their videos to.

1 - (Jive Bunny And The MasterMixers) Swing The Mood - Foot is tapping.  Can't be helped.  Okay, so a boosted base cleaned up remix of... oh never mind.  It's a highlight (just the hooks) mash-up with some repeating drum beat.  Before that first awkward transition to the next song I had such hopes for this!  Way to get my hopes up and then dash them :-(

2 - (B-52s) Love Shack - You would have done better with Rock Lobster.

3 - (Grateful Dead) Franklin's Tower - A pleasant song.  That's it though, just pleasant.

4 - (Keith Urban) Wasted Time - The semi nostalgic theme of the song isn't as uplifting as the tone and tempo of the song suggest.  Good song, but loses some points for not inducing the intended emotion (I do love that I get to apply modernist aesthetic theory directly for this round).

5 - (The Glenn Miller Orchestra) In The Mood - Impossible to not contrast with the Jive Bunny And The MasterMixers mash-up.  Sometimes the original is just better.

6 - (Verg Collection) Our Place - This one's growing on me.

8 - (Electric Light Orchestra) Mr. Blue Sky - YES!  YES!  YES!  I have to lower the score just a bit because I know this song so well already, but as soon as I saw this on this list, just knowing that I had an excuse to listen to it put me in a good mood.  Damn fucking right, this song right here!

10 - (Mud) “Dyna-mite” - And they're right...  This is dynamite.

Keith Urban - Wasted Time: 01 - Well that's not what I expected.  But I guess this is nu-country (Toss in a autotuned midi banjo to make it thus).  It certainly is a standup example of that genre, but kinda generic.  In any other round it would have fared better I reckon.
Grateful Dead - Franklins Tower: 00 - Shit - I found my 0.  Sorry whoever posted this, but I have a visceral reaction to most of the dead tied into my wife and friends in college buring out.  Beyond that, in general and on this song I really hate Jerry's guitar work.  It's all over that place - too noodly.  And their vocals are fucking terrible.  The lyrics are freshman pot induced level of insight.  Sorry - I'll stop there.  Well, at least its a 4 min Dead tune.
Jive Bunny And The MasterMixers - Swing The Mood: 02 - God - anyone old enough to remember the Stars on 45?  Anyway - a pale imitiation of what was a pale imitation.
OK Go - This too shall pass: 04 - Another really nice one.  Only near the bottom of the pile by a razor thin margin.
Verg Collection, Our Place: 10 - Wow - that is super nice stuff.  Right up my alley.  Thanks for sharing.
Love Shack - B-52s: 06 - I prefer earlier B-52s back when Ricy Wilson did that weird wacky guitar work, but Fred Schneider's cadence over Kate Pierson & Cindy Wilson's lovely harmonies will always get a smile on my face.
Indigo Girls -Closer to Fine: 05 - Hmmmmm.  I love this song, and I love this band.  (The program manager at my college radio station used to complain about me playing lesbians with guitars all the time).  Not so sure it is happy making tho.  I think it is about fighting off the darkness - and it may not assume that one wins.
Mud, “Dyna-mite”: 08 - OK - that was some silly fun.  And totally new to me.  Reminded me of Sweet or the like.
The Glenn Miller Orchestra - In The Mood: 03 - A true classic.  Shame to hear it ganked in that mixmaster tune.  That creschendo at the end - I wonder now if McCartney used that as inspiration for "Day In the Life"
Electric Light Orchestra - Mr. Blue Sky: Mine - Always gets me be-boppin.  They drum beat, strings and lyrics come together in a happy making clump.
: overall - Damn fine round people!

Keith Urban - Wasted Time: 6. I've always thought of Urban as a fairly ordinary country pop singer, but this song wasn't too bad. Maybe it's because I've had more exposure to country music recently, but I kind of enjoyed this one.

Grateful Dead - Franklin's Tower: 1. I'm not sure why the Dead got quite such a following as they did. Everything I've heard has been pretty ordinary, including this.

Jive Bunny and the MasterMixers - Swing The Mood: 0. What a terrible mashup. I guess it might be okay if all you cared about was getting as many different songs into one money-making nostalgia fest as you could (Hooked On Classics-style. Anyone else remember that?). Also, stop stealing my submissions!

OK Go - This Too Shall Pass: 2. I wish the music were as good as the video. But then again I say that about all OK Go songs.

Electric Light Orchestra - Mr. Blue Sky: 5. I've always thought I should like ELO more than I actually do. They always sound... generic. By no means unpleasant, but not especially interesting.

Verge Collection - Our Place: 3. Do Americans even have P plates? I doubt I would have noticed this song if it hadn't been in this game.

The B52s - Love Shack: 10. This was always going to be my top score. I love this whole album (Cosmic Thing).

Indigo Girls - Closer To Fine: 8. Again, my increased exposure to country music has improved my appreciation of it.

Mud - Dynamite: 4. Not bad, but pretty generic. I might put it on at a party for variety.

The Glenn Miller Orchestra - In The Mood: Mine. This is what it is supposed to sound like, without being cut to pieces and tempo-adjusted.


Indigo Girls - Closer to Fine - 10
     Great chorus, really nice harmonies, makes me smile. Wouldn't be my usual cup of tea, but top marks for the category. Flute guy made me laugh...

The Glenn Miller Orchestra -- (1941) In the Mood - 8
    Oh hey! In the Mood again! But for real this time! And with a fucking terrific recording!! Yeah, this does it for me. Most recordings of this tune would rank much lower... it's such a cliche tune... but this recording is fuckin GREAT.

Grateful Dead - Franklin's Tower - 6
     Pretty chill, pretty happy, I dig it. I wish it did something else at some point, but I do like it.

The B-52's - "Love Shack" - 5
     My initial reaction was like, "ugh, I know this song and don't like it," but after a few listens, this is a really good song, except for all the time that the guy is talk-singing. When he's singing-singing it's cool--just not when he's talking-singing; when he does that I want to set the song on fire.

Verge Collection - Our Place - 4
     Cute video. Cute song. Not really my cup of tea, but it's cute.

Mud - Dynamite - 3
     Meh. Trying to stretch a couple good little motives way too far.... really just not much here. Makes me want to bob my head for like 20 seconds, then I get bored and want to hear what's next.

Electric Light Orchestra - Mr. Blue Sky - 2
     Pretty good. Not great. The lack of rhythmic diversity bothers me a bit, but it's a nice song.

Keith Urban - Wasted Time - 1
     Sounds.... extra produced, extra auto-tuned... this song makes me sad. :(

Jive Bunny And The MasterMixers - Swing The Mood (12" Version) - 0
     Oh! In the Mood! Yeah, I can groove with that as a "cheer me up" song... oh... wait... no......  wtf is happening.... why.... :(
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 17, 2016, 09:18:39 AM
0- Keith Urban: Oh lord, country. Catchy, but generic. Not the biggest fan of the synthy/electronic backing track to the rest of the song. Banjo solo doesn't fit the song at all, considering you can barely hear the banjo in the rest of the music. The music video being all T and A doesn't help my opinion.

1- Jive Bunny: it's definitely... interesting. I never would've thought that these needed to be mashed up together, but they do flow into each other ok. Not my taste in music at all, but I appreciate the effort that went into this. To be hoest the futher I got into it the more irritating it got. It just starts to sound chaotic, almost infuriating how it keeps changing.

2- Mud: It's ok I guess. Could be worse. Just doesn't interest me as a song. It did get stuck in my head for a short while after listening but there are definitely better songs.

3- The GM Orchestra: I kinda like how their is no singing in this. Brass is always cool. I just feel like there is not many situations where I would happily listen to all of this in one solid sitting. More the kinda song I would have in the background of a social event or something.

4- Indigo Girls: First verse is boring, but the chorus kinda brings it back. Minimilistic, but in a really good way. Harmonies are nice. Can't really think of anything else to comment on.

5- OK Go: Music video is rad. Song is nice, but forgetable. I would have been pretty disinterested if there was no video. It could be much worse though.

6- Grateful Dead: Intro is cool and jazzy. I love how calm the whole mood is with this song. the solo's feel appropriate with the rest of the song. Chorus is ear-wormy. I quite like it.

8- The B-52's: I don't even need to listen to this song to rate it. It's in my personal playlist and almost iconic. Solid 80's bounce. Great song for the theme. I don't know of anyone who doesn't know at least some of this song.

10- Electric Light Orchestra: So far the best fit for this rounds theme. Bright and bouncy that you can't help but smile at. The song has been struck in my head on and off for many years without a name to match, and it will probably be stuck in my head for a while longer after this. Love it.


10 In the Mood - Now that’s not generic.  And a guaranteed smile-inducer.

8 Mr. Blue Sky - Not my favorite genre, but definitely fits the bill.  Was the first song I found remotely cheering.

6 Closer to Fine - Finally some lyrics with meaning.

5 Franklin’s Tower - This one gained significantly at a second listen.

4 Wasted Time - Kinda generic and overproduced, with strange electronic effects on the banjo and vocals.

3 Dynamite - This one suffered at a second listening.

2 Our Place - Actually pretty depressing.

1 This Too Shall Pass - Interesting video.  The song I would not willingly listen to again, least of all when I needed cheering.

0 Swing the Mood - Sorry, you only get one song, like everyone else.

What a fun round.  Cheeriness abounds, and thank Jobu nobody submitted “Walking on Sunshine,” egad.  Somebody’s gotta come in last though, alas.

OK Go, “This Too Shall Pass”  10
Yes please.  Added to the “to buy” list.

Verge Collection, “Our Place”  8
Totes adorbs, very appealing, going on my “to buy” list.

B-52s, “Love Shack”  6
Who among us can resist rump-shaking to this modern classic of hedonism, I ask you?  Not I; though it is perhaps a wee tad bit overplayed, it’s still great fun.

Glenn Miller Orchestra, “In the Mood”  5
Not the Ray Stevens version sung by chickens?  Aw, drat.  I maintain that it is not possible to remain fully stationary when this song plays.

Electric Light Orchestra, “Mr. Blue Sky”  4
If I recall correctly, this song didn’t sound like much else that was on the radio at the time.  Not my favorite ELO, especially, but great fun to listen to…there’s really a lot going on in there.

Grateful Dead, “Franklin’s Tower”  3
From the grooving-and-chillaxing segment of the cheering-up songs category, I see.

Indigo Girls, “Closer to Fine”  2
This is one of those “oh, that’s who sings that familiar song” things.  Lovely harmonies as usual.

Keith Urban, “Wasted Time”  1
I am a big country music fan, and I appreciate the banjo skipping through this tune.  Keith Urban seems like a nice fella, and this is inoffensive country-pop.  Generic inoffensive country-pop.

Jive Bunny and the MasterMixers, “Swing the Mood”  0
I can see why such a lively medley would be appealing for cheer-up purposes.  I like the interpolations of other swing tunes, but I don’t much dig 1950s rock.



Mud, “Dyna-Mite”
Come on now, what’s better than some straight-up cheerfully cheesy early-70s glam rock?  Not a whole hell of a lot!  It’s not much of a song, but it tickles me mightily.  My research turned up no explanation for why the guitarist dressed in what appeared to be women’s clothing.  He went on to have a career as a songwriter.


Grateful Dead - Franklins Tower: as a song i would not rate this one any higher than 6 with this group of songs however it still makes me happier than the others, its not the best performance but i couldn't find a better one on youtube that did not also contain other songs in the set.

10  Love Shack - B-52s One of the greatest songs ever written, I could play this song for almost any crowd and somebody would get up and dance to it. How anything from Athens Georgia could ever turn out to be great  is beyond me (Oh then there's REM WTF) I would have scored Rock lobster high as well but this song is epic.

8 Jive Bunny And The MasterMixers - Swing The Mood:  I think this song helped me to become a DJ, one of the best early remix/mashups.

6 Electric Light Orchestra - Mr. Blue Sky: almost as good as my choice, I would have rated other ELO songs higher

5 Mud, “Dyna-mite” : fantastic Glam song, I would like to hear more glam as this contest continues, thanks for the rare choice

4  The Glenn Miller Orchestra - In The Mood: why is this lower than Jive bunny? Well its not remixed by a DJ, still its a great song.

3 Indigo Girls -Closer to Fine: I dont like this song but admit its catchy, better than those below

2 Keith Urban Wasted Time: it will be hard to impress me with country and that goes double for this new pop crap, if you are going to play country it better be some actual country.

1 Verg Collection, Our Place: More alternative crap rock

0 OK Go, This too shall pass: some of their songs might stand on their own without the video but this one does not even do that.  ( in a video contest this would rate high along with the other uniquely creative stuff they had done, not great music though, just great video)

1. Keith Urban Waster Time- MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE
2.Grateful Dead--------0 no just no
3. Jive Bunny Mixmasters---------3
4. OK GO---------2
5. Electric Light Orchestra---------6 good friend on Runescape whose name is MrBlueSky
6. Verge Collection---------4
7. B 52's Love Shack----------8
8. Indigo Girls---------1
9. Mud----------10 a surprising 10 to be honest
10. Glenn Miller Orchestra---------5
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 17, 2016, 11:20:39 AM
I'd like to add a couple of points to my comments:

Dynamite: I liked the song at a first listen, putting it above the middle at least.  But on a relisten the production value started to bother me and it started to seem repetitive.  I even went looking for a cleaner version of the song because I wanted to like it, but, no, that seems to have been the sound they were going for.

Our Place - The song itself isn't bad, and it has a catchy tune and a nice solo: but the lyrics, while they start out okay, just get so damned depressing.  This would have fared much better in an open round.

Swing the Mood - If you're going to submit a mix or mashup, it'd better add something to the originals.  It needs to feel like there's something of the artist in it. This was just a bunch of up-tempo songs stitched together with some strange electronic effects.  There was no synergy between them, nothing new or original.  A straight-up mix like this is always going to score zero with me.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Drunken Idaho on December 17, 2016, 01:04:09 PM
AQB is the only person here with any musical sense, apparently.  ;D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 18, 2016, 10:25:36 AM
PSA: There's a new version of the song Big Timber in this week's song post.  I think anyone who's already listened ought to listen again.  I'm glad I did before submitting my votes.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: PANTS! on December 18, 2016, 05:53:57 PM
Mine are in:

Fuck that noise.
little smug to me.
super competent
still edgelords
that may hurt
On the fly production mixing
Dude is really fucking angry
I have seen them in concert at least 20+ times.
Weird shit man
It kinda builds in urgency until it devolves into chaos.

overall - Another good round.  It's hard to hand out low scores for some of these.  Y'all are making me do it for songs I love, but am familiar with!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Gerbig on December 18, 2016, 08:40:32 PM
Some hits, some misses. Doing this game kinda makes me realise I have a fairly narrow conception of what music should be. Mebey ill stretch that a little by the end.

Neways, my comments, in randomized order:

The singer is such a mumbler. I had a hard time telling if it was actually English. Guess you have to go to their songs already being a fan and knowing the lyrics to make out what he was saying. Should of had a cup of coffee before they reccorded the song.

I had no clue what to make of this. Is this a parody? I think it must be. Still, his singing voice is very nice and rhythmic. The song has some weird occasional synth beats in the background that are distracting as hell.

What a hip song. The guitar work is as energetic as the singing. I may have to look into more of their songs to see if they give the bass line as much energy and character as in this song.

A classic. Sure, its stupid, but there is a little bit of this attitude in everyone. Plus they are able to belch out lyrics that would come off dull from other bands and performers. There is an attitude in there.

Not for me, I can see its rhythmic repetitive appeal, it might be nice in certain contexts. I think I might enjoy it if it were live, but as something I have an option to listen to, I wouldn’t choose it.

Timeless. Hell, this song came out before I was born, but its still powerful. Its the kind of song where you don’t even need to really hear or understand the lyrics to enjoy it. The attitude and beat carry the energy forward with it.

Yepp. This is a zero. Worse than frat boy country.

Im a fan of acoustic picking as a show of talent, but I dont really enjoy it in my music. Still, as far as acoustic “lets sing a story” country songs go, its not bad, I could see myself drunkenly singing along to this.

I just don’t get singers like this. They let the lyrics drip out of their mouths, like they couldn’t give less of a shit about the song. It just comes off disingenuous and distracted. Chorus was nice. 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 18, 2016, 09:37:00 PM
Crazy weekend.  Will listen tomorrow.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Zaros on December 18, 2016, 11:06:39 PM
i can literally tell by all of your comments what you thought of my song. im boycotting until all votes are in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 19, 2016, 04:03:17 AM
Yeah, I'd rather read comments after I've scored the round, not before. I don't want to be pre-influenced in any way. That's why I only post snippets which can't be realistically connected with any song.

That's okay, I skip those posts.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 19, 2016, 10:27:46 AM
There's a strong alternative theme to a lot of these songs.  It's like a whole lot of us independently decided to get our freak on.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 19, 2016, 11:11:06 AM
I'll just share one review:

I was digging this the whole way through.  Honestly this was not the strongest round, but this song helped to save it for me.  Thank you for introducing me to something new that I thoroughly enjoyed.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: AQB24712 on December 19, 2016, 04:41:46 PM
AQB is the only person here with any musical sense, apparently.  ;D

Srsly...and you can really tell it from Round 3.  >:D

Speaking of which, my scores are in.  Gonna be AFK off and on.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Gerbig on December 19, 2016, 05:44:50 PM
Im scraping along the bottom. Its all cool, i like my tunes.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 19, 2016, 08:21:02 PM
Im scraping along the bottom. Its all cool, i like my tunes.

Wait...your list is serious?  You're not just playing us for laughs?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Gerbig on December 19, 2016, 09:07:24 PM
Im scraping along the bottom. Its all cool, i like my tunes.

Wait...your list is serious?  You're not just playing us for laughs?

You got it. My list is serious. Feel free to feel superior.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 19, 2016, 09:17:34 PM
If two people submit the same song...  is there a procedure for that?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: lubbarin on December 19, 2016, 09:28:04 PM
If two people submit the same song...  is there a procedure for that?
Battle to the death.
Cue the Star Trek battle to the death music.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 19, 2016, 09:57:27 PM
Im scraping along the bottom. Its all cool, i like my tunes.

Wait...your list is serious?  You're not just playing us for laughs?

You got it. My list is serious. Feel free to feel superior.

No...I don't...I just thought you must be trying for those scores.

:-[
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 19, 2016, 09:58:50 PM
If two people submit the same song...  is there a procedure for that?

I had assumed that the first submission would count and the second would be asked to resubmit.  That's how I'd run it.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Gerbig on December 19, 2016, 10:07:23 PM
Im scraping along the bottom. Its all cool, i like my tunes.

Wait...your list is serious?  You're not just playing us for laughs?

You got it. My list is serious. Feel free to feel superior.

No...I don't...I just thought you must be trying for those scores.

:-[

Yea, I cant possibly enjoy those plebian songs right? Silly Gerbig, enjoying things.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 19, 2016, 10:29:21 PM
Oh dear. I probably should shut up now, but I feel that I first must plead that my wrong assumption here Is best attributed to a lack of imagination rather than malice. In any case, I apologize for any offense I've given, regardless of intent.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 20, 2016, 12:18:10 AM
I've played quite a few of these games, and run some, and I haven't yet encountered a situation where two people submitted the same song.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Gerbig on December 20, 2016, 12:19:09 AM
Is this kind of game on other forums? Or is this an sgu forums creation?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 20, 2016, 12:24:53 AM
Is this kind of game on other forums? Or is this an sgu forums creation?

I brought it over from the (then) JREF Forums. It was brought there by a poster who goes by the name of El Greco, who had played it on other forums.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 20, 2016, 01:40:00 AM
I was totally going to do my scores tonight, but then I did a really awful round over at ISF, and now I just don't have the heart for it. Perhaps tomorrow night.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on December 20, 2016, 06:06:18 PM
If two people submit the same song...  is there a procedure for that?

I've only glanced at round 4 - the girl bands, but I think there might be two from the same artist, I don't know about the song. we'll have to cross that bridge when we get there.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Simon Jester on December 22, 2016, 12:01:41 AM

This is important

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evCsdT99Iog
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 22, 2016, 02:04:56 AM
Haven't watched the video, but the title seems to suggest that the guitar solo is an essential and necessary part of a song.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Simon Jester on December 22, 2016, 08:40:46 AM
Haven't watched the video, but the title seems to suggest that the guitar solo is an essential and necessary part of a song.

In a rock song, yes it is but don't bother watching captain obvious I'm sure you would not enjoy it.


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Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 23, 2016, 01:05:22 AM
Haven't watched the video, but the title seems to suggest that the guitar solo is an essential and necessary part of a song.

In a rock song, yes it is but don't bother watching captain obvious I'm sure you would not enjoy it.

Okay, well now we get into definitions territory, and "rock" is such a broad category that I don't think it's accurate to say that anything is a necessary part of it.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Drunken Idaho on December 23, 2016, 01:40:00 AM
Bout to give the list a first listen.

3 "not available" videos. I'll google and try to find them, but come on.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 23, 2016, 07:36:38 AM
Bout to give the list a first listen.

3 "not available" videos. I'll google and try to find them, but come on.

Not my song, but you can listen to it on their band camp.

https://johncongletonandthenightynite.bandcamp.com/track/animal-rites (https://johncongletonandthenightynite.bandcamp.com/track/animal-rites)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 23, 2016, 07:50:31 AM
3 "not available" videos. I'll google and try to find them, but come on.

I just played all of them on my iPhone in the U.S.  No unavailable videos.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 23, 2016, 10:54:13 AM
3 "not available" videos. I'll google and try to find them, but come on.

I just played all of them on my iPhone in the U.S.  No unavailable videos.

Oh, I assume he meant #3.  Which 3 are missing?  You can't just say that and not tell us which aren't playing.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on December 23, 2016, 02:03:16 PM
It's confusing to me because he's also in the US.  I can't see why he would be unable to view any videos that I can.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 23, 2016, 03:18:02 PM
There are three that are youtube music links: Animal Rites, Big Timber, and the first Brother link.  I assume (based on that pattern) that those are the three.  I've included an alternate link to ANimal Rights above.  Big Timber has a (less high quality) alternate link listed and Brother has an alternate link right below it, so hopefully you're set.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on December 26, 2016, 02:18:36 AM
Wow, what an awful round that was. My scores are in. There was only one song I would choose to listen to a second time, and it was mine.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Drunken Idaho on December 26, 2016, 09:56:48 PM
Not gonna get to it today, sorry! And I work tomorrow, so not gonna happen then, either. If y'all can wait until Wednesday, I'll get it done first thing after my post-work nap, otherwise I'll just take my lumps.  :-[
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Zaros on December 27, 2016, 12:28:35 AM
yeah i'll get to voting tomorrow when im finally completely free
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Drunken Idaho on December 28, 2016, 03:48:45 PM
Round 3, ranked. (I thought it wasn't a bad round...)

Round 4, submitted.

Round 4, honorable mention presented:

Saddle Trump, by Dickless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQTi4mkg5F0

I love their riffing, but the vocals are too screamy for me (else'n would have been my submission).

Plus, their song name is Saddle Trump.

Plus, their band name is Dickless.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on January 02, 2017, 08:57:37 AM
Alright: holidays are over, let's get this game in gear!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: PANTS! on January 02, 2017, 10:35:26 AM
Round 3, ranked. (I thought it wasn't a bad round...)

Round 4, submitted.

Round 4, honorable mention presented:

Saddle Trump, by Dickless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQTi4mkg5F0

I love their riffing, but the vocals are too screamy for me (else'n would have been my submission).

Plus, their song name is Saddle Trump.

Plus, their band name is Dickless.

DI - not cool to publish songs for unaired theme rounds.  Especially ones with relatively stringent criteria.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 02, 2017, 12:00:54 PM
I've avoided listening, just in case it was someone else's actual submission.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on January 02, 2017, 12:41:50 PM
I've avoided listening, just in case it was someone else's actual submission.

Me, too.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on January 03, 2017, 01:07:42 AM
It's generally not great form to post non-game-related songs in the game thread, for that exact reason. But hey, everyone's free to wear sunscreen.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 03, 2017, 02:17:22 AM
I thought the possibility of somebody submitting that song so low that it would not be a concern, but those that were outraged have my deepest, most sincere, non-sarcastic apologies.

If that song was actually submitted, then at least y'all can rank it knowing it didn't come from me.  ;D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on January 03, 2017, 04:20:06 AM
There's enough variety in the song space that the chances of two people submitting the same song are pretty small. I've seen people say "hey, I was thinking of submitting that in a future round" but as I said earlier I don't think I've ever seen the same song submitted in a single round by two people. :)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on January 04, 2017, 07:06:18 AM
Have we been forgotten?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on January 05, 2017, 04:33:00 AM
I think we might have been.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on January 06, 2017, 03:18:35 PM
Sorry you guys, they updated the firewall at work and I can't get on anymore. and homelife is busy. I'll get scores up here soon. and we'll get this thing back in gear.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 06, 2017, 05:54:10 PM
Sorry you guys, they updated the firewall at work and I can't get on anymore. and homelife is busy. I'll get scores up here soon. and we'll get this thing back in gear.

If you want help, I can help compile the scores for songs (just don't tell me who the people are associated with them) and such.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on January 06, 2017, 06:41:09 PM
Yeah, would be happy to help crowd-source.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on January 06, 2017, 06:46:16 PM
Well I've hit a snag, in that I don't have a set of scores from a certain Jester that I won't name, so you don't shame him into submission.  >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: arthwollipot on January 06, 2017, 06:54:38 PM
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/sss.gif)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Simon Jester on January 06, 2017, 07:25:17 PM
sorry, I had them done and thought they were already submitted, they are in now
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on January 06, 2017, 07:48:52 PM
Yay!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on January 07, 2017, 09:23:36 AM
Sorry you guys, they updated the firewall at work and I can't get on anymore. and homelife is busy. I'll get scores up here soon. and we'll get this thing back in gear.

If you want help, I can help compile the scores for songs (just don't tell me who the people are associated with them) and such.

You know what I need is a good script that would turn this:

<thead><tr class="tableizer-firstrow"><th></th><th>&nbsp;</th><th>&nbsp;</th><th>Arth</th><th>AQB</th><th>Pants</th><th>Zaros</th><th>Drew</th><th>Gerbig</th><th>DI</th><th>SJ</th><th>Lat</th><th>Cust</th><th>&nbsp;</th></tr></thead><tbody>
 <tr><td>1</td><td>Arth</td><td>They Might Be Giants: Don't Let's Start </td><td>#</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>0</td><td>3</td><td>8</td><td>5</td><td>5</td><td>5</td><td>5</td><td>45</td></tr>
 <tr><td>2</td><td>AQB</td><td>John Congleton and the Nighty Nite, "Animal Rites" </td><td>0</td><td>#</td><td>10</td><td>4</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>3</td><td>4</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>28</td></tr>
 <tr><td>3</td><td>Pants</td><td>Violent Femmes - "American Music" </td><td>2</td><td>10</td><td>#</td><td>8</td><td>2</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>6</td><td>4</td><td>0</td><td>35</td></tr>
 <tr><td>4</td><td>Zaros</td><td>beastie boys </td><td>3</td><td>8</td><td>4</td><td>#</td><td>0</td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>8</td><td>8</td><td>4</td><td>49</td></tr>
 <tr><td>5</td><td>Drew</td><td>big timber? Brad davis</td><td>10</td><td>0</td><td>3</td><td>2</td><td>#</td><td>1</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>6</td><td>2</td><td>31</td></tr>
 <tr><td>6</td><td>Gerbig</td><td>Garfunkel and Oates - The Loophole </td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>6</td><td>5</td><td>#</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>28</td></tr>
 <tr><td>7</td><td>DI</td><td>Les Claypool's Frog Brigade - Up On the Roof </td><td>1</td><td>5</td><td>0</td><td>3</td><td>1</td><td>4</td><td>#</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>10</td><td>29</td></tr>
 <tr><td>8</td><td>SJ</td><td>Skinny Puppy - Worlock </td><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>8</td><td>3</td><td>0</td><td>#</td><td>1</td><td>6</td><td>28</td></tr>
 <tr><td>9</td><td>Lat</td><td>Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival  </td><td>8</td><td>2</td><td>6</td><td>10</td><td>4</td><td>10</td><td>10</td><td>10</td><td>#</td><td>8</td><td>68</td></tr>
 <tr><td>10</td><td>Cust</td><td>D D Dumbo - Brother </td><td>6</td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>5</td><td>10</td><td>5</td><td>4</td><td>0</td><td>10</td><td>#</td><td>49</td></tr>
</tbody></table>

Into something that doesn't look like a code monkey's nightmare.
I'm using Notepad++ and had a Macro that I thought looked pretty good last time, and now it's f-ing it up again. I need much more training. 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on January 07, 2017, 09:48:44 AM
So now this is less than a music game and more of a programming challenge! As you can surly see TheLat ran away with this round with a commanding score for CCR, (it's no wonder that that he was so intent on getting some scores up for this round.) And to my surprise the Beastie Boys fared much better than I had expected. ( I feel what Nate Silver must have felt after Nov. 8 )

I'll get comments up today while I'm doing laundry. and then Queue up round 4 - girl bands before the week starts.


...ArthAQBPantsZarosDrewGerbigDISJLatCust
1ArthThey Might Be Giants: Don't Let's Start #68038555545
2AQBJohn Congleton and the Nighty Nite, "Animal Rites" 0#10460340128
3PantsViolent Femmes - "American Music" 210#822164035
4Zarosbeastie boys 384#06888449
5Drewbig timber? Brad davis10032#1616231
6GerbigGarfunkel and Oates - The Loophole 51165#232328
7DILes Claypool's Frog Brigade - Up On the Roof 150314#231029
8SJSkinny Puppy - Worlock 4321830#1628
9LatFortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival  826104101010#868
10CustD D Dumbo - Brother 64551054010#49
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on January 07, 2017, 10:26:26 AM
What can I say?  It's a hell of a song.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on January 07, 2017, 10:50:58 AM
And that's what get's you to a commanding lead in the competition.

Round:123456789101112Total
Arth474745000000000139
AQB345528000000000117
Pants475735000000000139
Zaros392149000000000109
Drew424431000000000117
Gerbig25152800000000068
DI38302900000000097
SJ37272800000000092
Lat365568000000000159
Cust453949000000000133
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: PANTS! on January 07, 2017, 12:22:27 PM
Nice!  Mutual 10s w/ QB.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 07, 2017, 01:28:38 PM
Last to break a hundred is a rotten egg!

Custard, keeping my streak of "at least one 10" alive, woo!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on January 07, 2017, 01:48:49 PM
Sorry , I had them completed in G docs, i must have forgotten to send them

Skinny Puppy - Worlock  I was fully expecting this track to score low and posted it as a curiosity on my list, if I had had time to change it I would have to shoot for more points as Im doing poorly. Already knowing that many of you are probably going to hate it I would point out that It absolutely would be in a top 5 list for that genre and would fill the floor in an instant with lovely flowing gothy chicks and romance dudes, along with cybers and rivetheads of any sex. In my entire career this genre was probably my favorite personally, Big room house maybe a little more but playing skinny puppy for a room who enjoyed it was pretty fun.

10 Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival: This is another overplayed film soundtrack song but its credence man! Another Classic I would rather be ranking against fair competition but so be it. 

8 Beastie Boys - (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party) This is another overplayed song but its the Beasties man! The song actually sucks but its an important song Classic, it bridged the gap between rock and rap, pionering song, probably thier most important but low on the list of actual "good" Beastie Boys songs.

I like these two songs personally more than the two tracks above but had to rank them lower

6 Violent Femmes - "American Music" This is my favorite Femms song.

5 They Might Be Giants - Don't Let's Start, I really like this song too.

4 Animal Rites · John Congleton and the Nighty Nite : “WhoTF is this? Hey that guy sounds like Sparks. This is actually pretty good. Industrial noise, hardcore house beats, old techno pads, Sparks guy singing, drop, nice, more noise, more beats, Yea i really like this” this is the first track submitted that I have not heard before that i would add to my playlists. Really nice selection, thanks!

3 Garfunkel and Oates - I had seen this on netflix and my reaction was… never mind, probably better that I keep my mouth shut

2 Les Claypool's Frog Brigade - Up On the Roof  I like Les Claypool although i enjoy his Primus stuff more. This just had some tough competition

1 Brad Davis - Big timber: this is better than the pop country song earlier because I like bluegrassy music but then he started singing.

0 Brother  D.D Dumbo : I just didnt like this

1. beastie boys---------------my song
2. Creedance Clearwater Revival-------------10
3. animal rites---------------4
4. Violent Femmes-----------8
5. Frog Brigade------------3
6. Brad Davis--------------2
7. Skinny Puppy-----------1
8. They might be giants----------0
9. Garfunkel and oates-----------6
10. Brother dumbo-----------5

In a major rush, so abbreviated comments... actually a pretty good round!

You Gotta Fight for Your Right - Beastie Boys - 8

Yeah! FIGHT! TO PARTY! But seriously, it's a dumb song that I love.

Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival - 10

Great song.

Animal Rites · John Congleton and the Nighty Nite - 3

Not available in my area. Found a recording made on a cell phone. Sounds pretty good, aside from the recording quality. Kind of an upbeat emo sound. Not bad.

Violent Femmes - "American Music" - 1

Catchy, but the guy's singing style (kinda taking, kinda out of tune singing) pisses me off.

Brad Davis - Big timber - 6

Also not available. Found a pretty decent version. Wow, nice guitarring. Folksy song. Dig it.

Skinny Puppy - Worlock - 0

Just... not much to like here.

They Might Be Giants - Don't Let's Start  - 5

I always like TMBG; their sillier stuff is usually very song specific, but this is more on their pop side. Fun!

Garfunkel and Oates - The Loophole - 2

Cute, funny, well-performed. Not something I'd put on a playlist, though, and that's how I rank in this here game.

D.D Dumbo - Brother - 4

Very quickly wishing I had a joint to puff on for this tune. Long buildup, neat ambient sound. His vocals aren't my bag, but it's pretty cool. Would love to see this live, but probably wouldn't put it on in my car.

Beastie Boys - (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party): 3. Eh. Fairly ordinary, if you're into that sort of thing. I doubt I'd put it on at a party.

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son: 8. I've never been much of a fan of CCR, but it is refreshing to hear something that isn't one of the two songs that is always played. This was okay, if short.

John Congleton and the Nighty Night - Animal Rites: 0. I saw the tags under the BandCamp version and I knew this wasn't going to score high for me. I can't for the life of me imagine why someone would produce music like this, let alone choose to listen to it. I killed it halfway through. Sorry.

Violent Femmes - American Music: 2. I hate his voice, and I always have. It sounds to me like a parody of a singing voice. I get why some people like it though.

Les Claypool's Frog Brigade - Up On The Roof: 1. Was this before or after Primus? I need to know so I can say who was derivative of whom. Actually I don't care - I can't stand either. I'd skip this if I hadn't already used up my self-imposed skip allowance.

Brad Davis - Big Timber: 10. I think I got a little out of breath listening to that banjo. I don't care about any other part of the song - I'm giving this points based just on the banjo.

Skinny Puppy - Worlock: 4. This is another of those tracks that leaves me thinking "why?" This wouldn't have scored as high in another round. Again, I would like to have been able to allow myself to skip this.

They Might Be Giants - Don't Let's Start: Mine. I tried to pick one that isn't one of the three or four TMBG songs that everyone plays. This is one of the ones that got me enjoying them in the first place. And yes, the voice, but Linnell does it better.

Garfunkel and Oates - The Loophole: 5. A few years ago I would have found this hilarious. Today, I find it merely tiresome. Extremely tiresome.

D.D Dumbo - Brother: 6. Well, this was pretty terrible. I wanted to give it fewer points, but I couldn't.


Yeah, this round is kind of…attitudinal.  Quite a 180 from the “cheer me up” round!


Violent Femmes, “American Music”  10
Not necessarily my favorite of theirs, but I dig it.  Dude always sounds a tiny bit deranged.

Beastie Boys, “(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party)”  8
I have an enduring fondness for the Beasties (who were such Beastie Babies in this video), and I delight in the fact that the mockery of this song sailed over the heads of so many.

They Might Be Giants, “Don’t Let’s Start”  6
I like this just fine.

Les Claypool’s Frog Brigade, “Up On The Roof”  5
I really wanted to like this, mostly because I really dig Primus’ song “Lee Van Cleef,” and I do appreciate a filthy bass line.  It’s not as appealing as the aforementioned tune, but it’s…okay.  Points for the mallet instrument (I can’t tell ‘em apart) meandering through. 

D.D Dumbo, “Brother”  4
Shoot, for a minute I thought it was a track from the band Brother, who put on a hell of a concert.  But no.  It’s some guy with a guitar.  It’s okay, but in a background music kind of way.  Six minutes?!  I know it’s a live track, but hoo-wee, that’s a lot. 

Skinny Puppy, “Worlock”  3
I gather from the YouTube comments that the lyrics made an impact on some listeners, but I can’t make out a word.  It’s interesting to listen to, but maybe not for five and a half minutes.

Creedence Clearwater Revival, “Fortunate Son”  2
I’m sorry, whoever sent this in; you had no way of knowing that I dislike everything I’ve ever heard from this band.

Garfunkel and Oates, “The Loophole”  1
Very clever.  Once.  Don’t need to listen to it more than once.

Brad Davis, “Big Timber”  0
I am a longtime fan of country music, the murder ballad, the story song, and all of that, but this song displeases me greatly.  My research shows that this generic-named fella has some serious bona fides in the genre, but this song sounds like some kind of nu-country check-off-all-the-boxes cliché formulaic drek. 


John Congleton and the Nighty Nite, “Animal Rites”
I am a sweet, kindly, mild-mannered sort of woman, but every now and then I like a really nasty, beastly, thrashy kind of song.  And what an awesome sing-along line to end on.  IF YOU WANNA SEE A DEAD BODY TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on January 07, 2017, 01:50:59 PM
10 Brother - One of the best live uses of looping I've seen. Liked the tune, liked the lyrics.  Bonus points of being new and interesting to me.
8 Fight for Your Right - Wow, that video was hella rapey. But I’m not judging on the videos, and the song is a high-energy nostalgia trip.
6 Big Timber - Awesome picking, but the song is just okay. ETA: Glad I listened again to see the new link—even awesomer picking. The song is still in that vigilante-fetish country tradition of which I’m not a fan, but this moves up a spot or two based on its musical merit.
5 Don't Let's Start - Catchy tune.  Solid TMBG.  Can’t believe I never caught the acrostic before; indeed, I didn’t until I looked up the lyrics in pondering the song this time.  Thanks for that.
4 American Music - Inoffensive, but pretty repetitive and simple. On a second listen it starts to bore.
3 Up on the Roof - It’s okay, but it’s just not that interesting to me.  Lots of these songs in the middle of the pack aren’t bad, they’re just…boring.
2 The Loophole - Cleverness only gets you so far.  A parody song like this is going to have to be amazing both musically and lyrically to score well with me.
1 Worlock - That was hard to listen to, but it had going for it that it wasn't Animal Rites.
0 Animal Rites - Unfortunately, it was Animal Rites.

4- Beastie Boys: Never really liked the Beastie Boys, but I can definitely sing along to this. Honestly though, their voices are irritating.

8- Creedence Clearwater: I'm rather on the fence about Creedence Clearwater. The song from a few rounds ago was not my cup of tea. But they have other songs that tickle my fancy a bit more. So far, I think this fits into that fancy. I like how short it is, but also so full. Fade out in the end is a bit disspointing.

1- John Congleton: I couldnt actually watch the posted video so I had to find another one. The only one I could actually find was live and filmed on a phone, so this review probably isn't accurate. I really didn't like it. lots of madly strumming, and madly yelling. Plus, the one I watched had weird voice effects every now and again which ruined the whole thing for me.

0- Violent Femmes: I didn't think another song on this list could go lower than John Congleton, but was I proven wrong. The voice man, it's so... painful. I just can't stand it. The rest of the song is ok, but that voice is a total song killer for me here.

10- Les Claypool: That bass is rad. Like, seriously rad. The short, tight guitar actually sounds really good too. the voice reminds me of Weird Al, but it's not terrible.

2- Brad Davis: I don't really like banjo, or the frantic plucking of any guitar like instrument really. But I don't really mind this song. I little concerning that it's about committing a murder.

6- Skinny Puppy: This guy sounds super pissed at something. Getting a NiN feel. The voice effects are unexpected, but I actualy kind of like them. Goes on a bit too long honestly.

5- They Might Be Giants: Never really liked this guys. It's definitely interesting, but not my dealio.

3- Garfunkel and Oates: Haven't really heard these two before. I definitely was not expecting this. I like parody songs, but this is really aggressive. A bit overkill if you ask me.


Les Claypool's Frog Brigade - Up On the Roof: 00 - Is this the dude from Primus?  Yup - its the dude from Primus.  Slightly more musical than their output.  I like the xylophone work.  That and the slap bass saved it from downvote oblivion.  Which is where he headed when he did the stupid South Park voice.  Fuck that noise.

Garfunkel and Oates - The Loophole: 01 - This was very witty the first 10 time I heard it.  It has since worn thin, and seems a little smug to me.

Brad Davis - Big timber: 03 - He's super competent.  And unlike most super noodly music it doesn't drive me up a tree.  He voice is to die for!  Still - not really my cuppa, but its pretty good nonetheless

Skinny Puppy - Worlock: 02 - Huh.  They went a little techno, did they?  Not so sure I like that addition.  Still takes me back to High School dances where we would alternate between Madonna and "Dig It".  I see they are still edgelords with the Manson samples.

Beastie Boys - (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party): 04 - Not the best BB song by a loooooong shot.  And so very well known.  Lets see how the others sound but that may hurt this hit.

Brother - D.D Dumbo: 05 - Is this a new style of music now?  I see several artists who do it.  On the fly production mixing using pedals.  It's really cool.  I do find the set up to these tunes to be aggravating at times tho.  Maybe I just ned to listen more - it took me a while to appreciate New Order, et al, and they do basically the same thing.

Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival: 06 - I love this CCR song.  Dude is really fucking angry, and I am constantly surprised at how many people don't see that.

They Might Be Giants - Don't Let's Start: 08 - I can't downvote TMBG.  I have seen them in concert at least 20+ times.  I can't tell you how much I enjoy their work.  And this is one of their better tunes.

Animal Rites · John Congleton and the Nighty Nite: 10 - Wow.  Weird shit man.  But I really liked it.  Disturbing lyrics tho.

Violent Femmes - "American Music": mine - Different stuff for the Femmes.  I really like this one from them.  It kinda builds in urgency until it devolves into chaos.

: overall - Another good round.  It's hard to hand out low scores for some of these.  Y'all are making me do it for songs I love, but am familiar with!

(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party) by Beastie Boys - 0
I hated this when it came out.  I hate it now.  Bad nostalgia, bad.

Up On the Roof by Les Claypool's Frog Brigade - 1
While Animal Rights was a sort of odd and quirky thing that grew on me, this one didn't.  It just dragged on.

American Music by Violent Femmes - 2
I guess I'm just not a fan of American music.

Don't Let's Start by They Might Be Giants - 3
I never got They Might Be Giants.  I also have never heard this song before.  After listening, only one of those things has changed.

Fortunate Son by Creedence Clearwater Revival - 4
I'm putting this at the bottom of my enjoyed it list (so everything above this is basically I song I liked).  I mean this is an excellent song, but not only do I know it well, but it's pretty much unavoidable in both past and present popular culture.  I mean I can't really give high marks for a song that I can almost guarantee everyone here was already aware of and has heard numerous times.

The Loophole by Garfunkel and Oates - 5
Parodies have a different set of criteria.  I mean there are some really dense parts here that make it difficult to parse on a single listen, while at the same time there's not enough there musically to warrant a second listen (at that point the cleverness is spent).  So this is in that odd place of being worth 1 1/2 listens to fully appreciate.  A fair parody sort of song, but not up to the level of say a Flight Of The Conchords song.

Animal Rites by John Congleton and the Nighty Nite - 6
I can appreciate dissonance.  Is it crazy that I went from hating this to thoroughly enjoying it as it played on?  I mean I can't give it top marks, but there's something, just something I appreciate about this.

Worlock by Skinny Puppy - 8
I feel the funk slowly flowing through me.  The acid rock infused techno beat is taking hold.  Are we building to something?  Is it going anywhere?  No?  Is this lingering madness the final form of this song?  I wanted the building to rise up to something epic!  Oh well, almost epic.

Brother by D.D Dumbo - 10
I was digging this the whole way through.  Honestly this was not the strongest round, but this song helped to save it for me.  Thank you for introducing me to something new that I thoroughly enjoyed.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: The Latinist on January 07, 2017, 01:57:15 PM
Playing around with scores.  I had expected a positive correlation between the scores I gave a player and the scores that player gave me, but so far that turns out to be decidedly not the case.

(http://i.imgur.com/OuXOOaM.png)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 07, 2017, 02:04:56 PM
Nerd!

That's awesome.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on January 07, 2017, 05:37:45 PM
Toward the end of the last game Arth. had a pal that crunched the numbers all kinds of ways. the most interesting of which was he found a huge similarity in the way both I and Zaros scored and submitted songs. we still haven't figured out that correlation.  ;D

I've got one video that was removed by the user, so I'm waiting on a substitution. I should have round 4 up by tomorrow.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 07, 2017, 05:58:12 PM
People don't like songs about vigilante murder?  May have to rethink later submissions.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: HighPockets on January 07, 2017, 07:34:54 PM
Round 4 - Girl Bands - I left the...best...for last. at least they didn't submit the same song.

THE SHIRELLES-WILL U STILL LOVE ME TOMORROW
https://youtu.be/cbxxkwBQk_o

Heart-Crazy On You
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZuW6BH_Vak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZuW6BH_Vak)

Ex Hex: 'You Fell Apart
https://exhexband.bandcamp.com/track/you-fell-apart

Indica: Children of Frost
https://youtu.be/KmhiVw72Liw

ESG - Erase You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_U-0s1_G8&list=PLpZIC3C9euDjBnnALiraPrFJZ5-wgqc4o&index=5

The Emotions ~ Best of My Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pahij2ZMkMw

Camp Cope - Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKZwRe7-twA

Fabulous Disaster - Inside my head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1usY4TdPcrk

The Bangles - Manic Monday
https://youtu.be/SsmVgoXDq2w

The Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk&list=PLzzS9DiENa91EBahy9yV9mh54lxZqUNuE&index=1

 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 07, 2017, 07:37:50 PM
You need to edit the "&feature=youtube" off the end of that one link.

Jeez, actually, edit all the links to remove everything from the "&" character and after.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 07, 2017, 07:45:25 PM
This HTML5 format is screwing with my linkage. and it's weird that there are like 18 million ways to get to a video, and more than half don't auto populate the video.

I'll try to clean things up.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 07, 2017, 08:13:53 PM
Yeah, YouTube screws with links for analytic purposes. The "bare" link consists of "http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXXXXXXXXXX". Everything else is guff. It tells Google how you got to the video - whether you are watching it as part of a list, or from a subscription, or whatthehelleverelse they want to know. Generally there's a "&" symbol and a pile of rubbish after it. You can get rid of all that shit. Not only does it make the link shorter and cleaner, and allows sites like this to auto-embed, it also doesn't screw up with Google's analytics as much.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 07, 2017, 10:06:04 PM
One free comment before I even listen to these songs:

0. This may very well be the best song in this round, but [band] is not a girl band. DQ.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 07, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
Alright, having listened to all of them for a first time, I have only one other comment I want to share:

Me: Wow, these lyrics are deeper than I remember. I wonder who wrote this? [Googles] Oh, of course. Fuck you, 2016.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: PANTS! on January 07, 2017, 11:43:25 PM
Alright, having listened to all of them for a first time, I have only one other comment I want to share:

Me: Wow, these lyrics are deeper than I remember. I wonder who wrote this? [Googles] Oh, of course. Fuck you, 2016.

Well, I know what that is about.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016! Round 3 Deadline for Votes 12/26/16
Post by: AQB24712 on January 08, 2017, 11:33:48 AM
Nice!  Mutual 10s w/ QB.

 :hfive:
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Zaros on January 08, 2017, 12:06:05 PM
wait i cant tell which one isnt the all girl band
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 08, 2017, 12:45:02 PM
I would like to add that I've thoroughly enjoyed this round.  This is the first round in which there was no song I wanted to give a 0.  There are some songs in here that I actually quite liked but have to give a low mark to simply because I liked others better.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Simon Jester on January 08, 2017, 05:33:04 PM
I have the same issue

There are at least 2 bands on here that used studio musicians but they are still considered "Girl Bands" There is one band on the list that could be considered "Girl Fronted" but not "girl band" they currently have 6 members 2 of which are women.  I would also have to rate that one a zero but I would rather give that player a chance to submit a new song.

Can we give that player a chance to resubmit?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 08, 2017, 05:51:38 PM
I agree with you, Simon.  Session musicians or a backing band are one thing, but that's not what we're talking about here.  Three of the five credited personnel on the track are men, and two are founding members of the band.

I think it's up to our moderator whether he wants to let the player submit another song or whether he wants us to judge them as-is.  Before the game started he said that theme enforcement would occur in the voting, so he may just want us to work it out. And of course the player may not want to submit another track, banking that other players may not consider it an issue and will rank the song high.

But if it stays in it gets a zero from me.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 08, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
Funny, the submitter changed the song after the initial list. My argument would be that band wasn't' going anywhere with out the two women. My other defense would be that they also wrote this particular song. I think if you asked 50 people on the street if they were a girl band more than 75% would say yes.

If the submitter wants, a substitution can still be allowed, but I'm not moving the deadline. you guys already stated your views before the round started, the submitter knew what they were getting into. Personally I think that it will still score high even with your dissenting votes.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 08, 2017, 07:56:50 PM
As you point out, I made my position on "girl bands" clear well before this round.  But this is not even what I'd consider an edge case. It stretches credibility that any band with five or six members only two of whom are women could be called a "girl band," but this one in particular has an origin and history that clearly belies the idea.  It's a shame, too, because in any open round this song would be a strong contender for a 10.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Simon Jester on January 08, 2017, 08:58:26 PM
Is Fleetwood Mac a girl band?  :P
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 08, 2017, 09:36:48 PM
On a happier note, I'm finding this round by far the most enjoyable so far; I've created a playlist of all the songs that are available on Apple Music (only Children of Frost is not available, which is strange because there's a metric shit-ton of Indica on there) and I've been listening to it off and on all day.  This is the first round I even thought about doing that for.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: PANTS! on January 08, 2017, 09:44:50 PM
Heart.  They are talking about Heart.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 09, 2017, 10:22:13 AM
Ah authenticity.  The way I see it, any submission not from a "girl band" automatically goes to the bottom.  And that does gets ranked on the merits of the song.  So it's not a matter which, "Which is the purest girliest band?" but rather, "Which is the best song by a girl band?"  Does Heart qualify as a girl band?  Also, this is Heart circa 1976, which is very different from mid-80s Heart, or even Heart today.  If it's the debut single by band fronted by two sisters, where one co-authored (how much?  who knows?) the song, and one's lead guitar and the other the vocalist for the song, where they at that moment a girl band?  Does it matter that they since wrote other songs and performed songs that they had others write for them?

I'll just say this, if "Will You still Love Me Tomorrow?" was co-written by Gerry Goffin and Carole King, does that take away from the authenticity of it being performed by The Shirelles (none of whom even play an instrument)?  I am the one who submitted the Heart song, and I stand by my submission for better or worse.


EDIT -

Typically I wouldn't defend my submission openly, but since people have been openly discussing whether it should even qualify, I felt I had to.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 09, 2017, 11:57:24 AM
Finished my first pass.  Now time for the second and to rate them.  Will have results in before the end of the day.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 09, 2017, 01:38:44 PM
Well, if it wasn't a zero before it is now.  Revealing that you submitted a song and openly advocating for it in the thread should be disqualifying in itself.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 09, 2017, 01:43:04 PM
Well, if it wasn't a zero before it is now.  Revealing that you submitted a song and openly advocating for it in the thread should be disqualifying in itself.

Only if openly attacking a song's qualifications while voting is still going on is also grounds for the same.  The difference is that I had the integrity to be up front about what I was doing because I was basically forced into it by your unsportsman like conduct, while you're submission is still anonymous.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 09, 2017, 02:37:09 PM
FWIW, I think Andrew's defense was pretty solid. I now feel that the song is indeed from a 'girl band.' I agree that the criticisms should have been leveled in the post-rating commentary, not in the thread during voting, where they can't help but sway other voters.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: AQB24712 on January 09, 2017, 02:56:14 PM
I am unswayed!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Gerbig on January 09, 2017, 03:07:14 PM
Just to be a stick in the side of "You should judge songs MY WAY" people, im going to judge the songs based on their length.
Longest automatically gets the highest score, shortest gets zero.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: PANTS! on January 09, 2017, 04:20:20 PM
Ah authenticity.  The way I see it, any submission not from a "girl band" automatically goes to the bottom.  And that does gets ranked on the merits of the song.  So it's not a matter which, "Which is the purest girliest band?" but rather, "Which is the best song by a girl band?"  Does Heart qualify as a girl band?  Also, this is Heart circa 1976, which is very different from mid-80s Heart, or even Heart today.  If it's the debut single by band fronted by two sisters, where one co-authored (how much?  who knows?) the song, and one's lead guitar and the other the vocalist for the song, where they at that moment a girl band?  Does it matter that they since wrote other songs and performed songs that they had others write for them?

I'll just say this, if "Will You still Love Me Tomorrow?" was co-written by Gerry Goffin and Carole King, does that take away from the authenticity of it being performed by The Shirelles (none of whom even play an instrument)?  I am the one who submitted the Heart song, and I stand by my submission for better or worse.


EDIT -

Typically I wouldn't defend my submission openly, but since people have been openly discussing whether it should even qualify, I felt I had to.

I agree.  I wanted to submit The Breeders until I read The Lat's ruleset.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 10, 2017, 01:33:17 AM
I generally don't take theme compliance into account when scoring anyway. I rate the song, not how well the song conforms to a theme.

I haven't done my scores yet - I'll be getting to them in the next couple of days. Not tonight - I have a headache.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 12, 2017, 11:47:06 AM
Replacement for the now taken down song:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGVhoUylCqY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGVhoUylCqY)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: PANTS! on January 12, 2017, 12:21:56 PM
That is a live version, which is gonna be different.

You could also use the version here, which should be the same as original studio version that was posted:

https://exhexband.bandcamp.com/track/you-fell-apart

EDIT:  I changed the version linked in the posting for anyone running behind.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 12, 2017, 07:16:11 PM
EDIT:  I changed the version linked in the posting for anyone running behind.

Jeeze, don't mess with teh games mod. more on top of things than me, I didn't even notice it was broken.

and as an aside, I don't remember there being so many problems with songs disappearing the last time we did this.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 14, 2017, 12:15:55 AM
Couldn't get them in tonight, but I'll have mine in on the 15th without fail if y'all can wait.  :-[
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 14, 2017, 07:36:32 PM
You aren't the only one brother. (the other ones know who they are.) hint hint.

I start naming names tomorrow.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 15, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
You aren't the only one brother. (the other ones know who they are.) hint hint.

I start naming names tomorrow.

The idea was to do this tonight, but I didn't get my post-work nap today, and there's no way I make it through the round without passing out. I'm going to sleep until my body decides its ok to wake up, and then I'll do this first thing tomorrow!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 16, 2017, 01:29:01 AM
It's me, sorry. I'm doing mine right now.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 16, 2017, 02:19:45 AM
And done.

I'd like to say something. I'd like to apologise again in retrospect and in advance to anyone who submits music I don't like. Custard told me, over the Mah Jong table, that I was savage in my condemnation of his previous round's submission. That's just something I do. Please remember that I am savaging the song, not the submitter.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 16, 2017, 08:12:14 AM
I have the day off today, so I was going to compile scores...but...the range of people that have not submitted scores ranges all the way from AQB to Zaros.

Quote
“Normally I miss deadlines like a storm trooper misses Jedi.”
― Patrick Rothfuss, Unfettered

This is going to be a low scoring round if I have to start handing out rows of zeros.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Simon Jester on January 16, 2017, 09:38:23 AM
Im swamped at the moment as well. I turned in my scores without comment so I wont hold anyone up. If I have some free time before I see all the scores posted i will turn them in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 16, 2017, 02:43:24 PM
I have initial scores done... gonna go for a jog, and will add some comments with final scoring when I get back.

And then I'll make fun of all those who haven't submitted scores, and pretend that I am superior to them for having submitted my scores while they dawdle.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: AQB24712 on January 16, 2017, 02:47:20 PM
My scores are in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 16, 2017, 04:12:35 PM
I am submit. Good job with poking at everybody, HP--really helps us procrastinators. 

Who's left?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 16, 2017, 04:47:43 PM
Only one left, his classes started today, but I sent him another reminder to get them in. I have a soft spot in my heart for the little bugger, but not so soft as to not dole out some tough love and zero him out, if he doesn't get scores in BEFORE HE GOES TO DINNER!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 18, 2017, 08:47:21 PM
OK sorry everybody, I gots the scores, but I ain't got the time. With the contention over the term "Girl Band" clearly The Bangles rein supreme! I'll get comments and cumulative scores up in just a bit. I gotta go walk the dog....

 
..ArthAQBPantsZarosDrewGerbigDISJLatCust
ArthIndica - Children of Frost #05621253832
AQBESG, "Erase You"  1#2300026014
PantsEx Hex: 'You Fell Apart  58#1064534449
ZarosThe Bangles - Manic Monday624#1061105650
DrewHeart - crazy on you10100#10600532
GerbigThe Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian 84183#8821052
DIFabulous Disaster, "Inside My Head" 356552#48240
SJThe Emotions ~ Best of My Love 261028310#1143
LatThe Shirelles - Will You Love Me Tomorrow?  03314836#331
Cust Camp Cope - Jet fuel cant melt steel beams 41084154110#47
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 18, 2017, 09:13:39 PM
If my calculations are right, the lat's politicking for girl band equivocation has hurled him into the lead. 

Round:123456789101112Total
Arth4747453200000000171
AQB3455281400000000131
Pants4757354900000000188
Zaros3921495000000000159
Drew4244313200000000149
Gerbig2515285200000000120
DI3830294000000000137
SJ3727284300000000135
Lat3655683100000000190
Cust4539494700000000180
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 18, 2017, 09:19:33 PM
Rushed for time. some people didn't submit comments. I'll only post people who did.

THE SHIRELLES-WILL U STILL LOVE ME TOMORROW - 3
     It's a nice tune, but not really my bag. I'd choose this song if I was scoring music for a video and I wanted to hit the audience with "old timey nostalgia."

Heart-Crazy On You - 6
     Oh! I know this one! Played it on guitar hero! Good song, I dig it! Never knew it was a girl band, that's even awesomer.

Ex Hex: 'You Fell Apart - 5
     Pretty good! I'd like to hear a little wider vocal range explored (the style is a tad monotonous), but it's a cool song with some catchy guitarring.

Indica: Children of Frost - 2
     I wouldn't say it's a bad song, but I got really bored every time I listened to it.

ESG - Erase You - 0
     I kept hoping somebody would start singing at some point, but nope, just a bunch of talk-singing. That's pretty much become my least favorite thing in music (with a few exceptions). Grr.

The Emotions ~ Best of My Love - 10
     Now we're talking! Great song, great singing! Made me want to jump up and dance! I'll be shocked if this isn't the top score by a wide margin.

Camp Cope - Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams - 4
     Nice active bass line. I like her voice, but the song is awfully repetitive.

The Bangles - Manic Monday - 1
     This song has always annoyed the hell out of me. It's not a bad song, just something about it...

The Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian - 8
     Yes! I was hoping somebody would submit this. It's an obvious choice, because it's a fun, great song. I find it odd that I rated the two Bangles songs so differently, but man, I really feel strongly about both songs... just in opposite directions.
     

Camp Cope, “Jet Fuel Can’t Melt Steel Beams”  10
Heh, who’s pandering to the skeptical audience with this selection?  I really like it.

Ex Hex, “You Fell Apart”  8
Yes please!  I dig it.

The Emotions, “Best Of My Love”  6
Aw man, my sister used to leave the arm to the right and play this single over and over and over and over.  I’m still happy to hear it when it shows up.

Fabulous Disaster, “Inside My Head”  5
I do love me some punky stuff.

The Bangles, “Walk Like An Egyptian”  4
This song is very silly, of course, but it’s a fine slice of pure pop goodness, and I like the sharing of lead vocals.

The Shirelles, “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow”  3
Classic.  I can’t quite get behind the retro lyrics, but it’s lovely and I wouldn’t change the radio station.

The Bangles, “Manic Monday”  2
Definitely the lesser of the two Bangles songs here.  The piano riff is irresistible, and I appreciate setting a song about running late to a languid, trippy tune, but lord have mercy, the lyrics are insipid.  So many forced rhymes.

Heart, “Crazy On You”  1
This song is, to me, so very overplayed that it’s hard to listen with fresh ears.  I don’t actually like it that much, but Ann is really slaying that guitar.

Indica, “Children Of Frost”  0
No, thank you, no mystical faerie misty wood magick for me.


ESG, “Erase You”
Punkish, funky, hip-hoppy, sisterhood, girl power, blast it on the car stereo or on the Bose, shake your rump around the living room and horrify the cats.  Boo-yah.



Sorry for the wait.

The Shirelles - Will U Still Love Me Tomorrow: 0. Generic 50s-style pop. To think - this "rock and roll" was going to destroy everybody's minds.

Heart - Crazy On You: 10. Nice guitar work. I'd like to be able to see the musician play it. This is solid rock - it's not destroying anybody's mind.

Ex Hex - You Fell Apart: 5. Is this actually recorded live, or is just the vocal track treated in order to sound live? Live vocals never sound as good to me as studio vocals. It's not bad, though.

Indica - Children of Frost: Mine. Mine. Much of the rest of this album is more rockish, but I really love the atmospheric folkishness of this track. I figured it would be something different from what I'm expecting from everyone else.

ESG - Erase You: 1. Nope. This was completely uninteresting to me, to the extent that I got distracted and started doing something else, and stopped hearing it. I had to bring myself back. Twice. I noticed when they started barking like dogs though.

The Emotions - Best of My Love: 2. I really don't like Motown as a style. There's been very little in the genre that I've liked at all. This isn't one of the rare cases.

Camp Cope - Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams: 4. Is this submission ironic? Is it an ironic submission? I can't tell. Regardless, she's letting emotion get the better of her vocal control and that sucks.

Fabulous Disaster - Inside My Head: 3. Interestingly, Wikipedia places Fabulous Disaster in the Thrash Metal genre, but this sounds more like punk to me. Except it's better sung.

The Bangles - Manic Monday: 6. Okay, this comment addresses both of these tracks: it's uninspired and unimaginative to submit The Bangles to a girl band round.  I've penalised both for that. Otherwise these two songs would have got my top two positions. I looove The Bangles! I originally submitted Eternal Flame, but I changed my mind at almost the last minute, because it's uninspired and unimaginative to submit The Bangles to a girl band round.

The Bangles - Walk Like An Egyptian. 8. This is the better of the two. One of my favourite songs.

0-[ESG - Erase You] If someone put this song on in a bar, I would be annoyed.
1- [Indica: Children of Frost] The song seems to be reaching for some ideal but never getting there.
2-[Fabulous Disaster - Inside my head] Even as a fan of punk, this was too messy to me. Could use some polishing
3- [The Emotions ~ Best of My Love] The high notes are grating after a while, but still a great song
4- [Ex Hex: 'You Fell Apart] This is good punk. Mebey not punk. Still good.
5- [Camp Cope - Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams] High energy with a soothing singing voice within. Lovely
6- [The Bangles - Manic Monday] I forgot this song existed, im glad i remembered it.
8- [THE SHIRELLES-WILL U STILL LOVE ME TOMORROW] This song sounds like the “into the sunset” tune for some cheesy movie. Love it.
10- [Heart-Crazy On You]- Who could hate that guitar picking? Followed by a song as badass as it is catchy
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 18, 2017, 09:21:48 PM
0 ESG - Erase You
Oh no, not this song.  Oh gosh.  I've got to listen to this again now don't I?  Ugggggg...

1 Camp Cope - Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams
The question of what would happen if you crossed Good Charlotte and Ani DiFranco has been answered, and I wish it hadn't been.

2 Indica - Children of Frost
I have a negative visceral reaction to all things "goth spooky" where it's a carefully curated rhyming scheme that is also meant to be creepy.  The instrumental interlude at 2:35 had me questioning for a second though, as it seemed like it might be building to something truly dark, but then it reverted to its previous form.  This is a personal taste thing.

3 The Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian
This song was so overplayed back in the day that I came to despise it.  It's like hearing Jessie's Girl.  Yes it's actually a decent song, but everyone here but Zaros likely had a period of time when they wish they could escape this song.

4 The Shirelles - Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow
A classic.  I enjoy the song, but it takes a hit for being something I was well well aware of.

5 Fabulous Disaster - Inside my head
This is a great base-line song, yet it's fairly high up my list.  Gosh, despite all but one of my previous submissions being ones that coudl also have been submitted to this category, I'm really not digging this round.

6 Ex Hex - You Fell Apart
Huge thanks to PANTS! for posting the studio version, which really upped the score on this one.

8 The Emotions - Best of My Love
Bring back the funk!  Brink back the funk!

10 The Bangles - Manic Monday
Thought I might be giving this one too much credit through my first pass, since it was on a Monday after the holiday season ended, and I had been running late.  Nope, really is just a great song.



This was a hard round to score; the difference between 6 and 1 was very small. I listened to them all repeatedly and there were frequent shifts among them.  So far this is by far the best and most consistent round.

10 Jet fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams - Love the grit, love the meaning, love the obvious heart. 

8 All Inside My Head - not sure why this rates so high, to be honest.  But every time I hear it I like it more.

6 Erase You - Catchy Beat.  It grew on me with repeat listenings, and I had to bump it up when I found myself listening to it again for the fifth time.

5 Manic Monday - Listening closely for the first time in forever I realized that the lyrics had an unexpected depth and started to wonder just who wrote this song...oh, of course.  Damn you, 2016!

4 You Fell Apart - Pretty good, especially loud and in headphones. 

3 Children of the Frost - I originally ranked this higher, but it fell on repeated listenings.

2 Walk like an Egyptian - Catchy, fun, but beat out in a very strong round by a number of close contenders.  Between the two Bangles tunes, this just doesn't match up to the Prince-penned Manic Monday.

1 Best of My Love - Again, this lost not because it was bad but merely because I liked others better. 

0 Crazy on You - This is, without a doubt, the best song in the group.  But Heart is not a "Girl Band," not even if stretching the definition to the point of breaking. This is not a band formed by Ann and Nancy Wilson that happens to have some backing musicians who are men.  It's a band formed from the start by Steve Fossen and Roger Fisher, who recruited Ann Wilson as vocalist when she answered their newspaper ad looking for a drummer.  She later recruited her little sister Nancy.  All five of the musicians on this track remained members of the band throughout their heyday, and none of them was incidental; it was a true collaboration.

On this track, bass and both electric guitars are all male; lead vocals, acoustic guitar introduction, and rhythm guitar were female.  It really sucks to have to rank this zero because Ann Wilson is probably the best female rock vocalist of all time and this is one of her best performances.  In any open week this would be a strong contender for a 10.  But I made clear how I was going to judge this round weeks ago, and I stand by that.

I encourage everyone to watch this live performance (https://youtu.be/V44HiAX91Hs) of the song from 1976.  It's breathtaking.

THE SHIRELLES-WILL U STILL LOVE ME TOMORROW: 03 - This is the song of someone who just lost their virginity.  It's a great tune, and so poignant, and naive.
Heart-Crazy On You: 00 - Sorry, Rock 92 ruined Heart for me.  I don't know if I can ever go back.
Ex Hex: 'You Fell Apart: mine - These ladies rock.  They are a recent discovery of mine.  I hope you enjoy them as well.
Indica: Children of Frost: 05 - Spooky tune.  Quite gothy.  I like it.  Never heard of them before either.
ESG - Erase You: 02 - This was intriguing, but didn't go anywhere after setting a great initial tone.
The Emotions ~ Best of My Love: 10 - This would have got top marks from me last round I reckon.  Just the way she snaps out "Loooove and afec - tion" makes me smile like a doofus.  And that fucking bridge!  Still - it's is a super ubiquitous tune.  But I did listen to it 3 times over.  :-)
Camp Cope - Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams: 08 - Where was this band when I was in college?  20something PANTS would have died to hear them.  Nice track.  Thanks for sharing!  Reminds me of Courtney Barnett
Fabulous Disaster - Inside my head: 06 - Whew.  They are off to the races.  Good punk.
The Bangles - Manic Monday: 04 - God I miss Prince.  This was not one of his better tunes, and still it's a gem.
The Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian: 01 - Such a fun song.  Always gets a sing along, no matter what.  Still, there is not a lot there.  Clearly the lesser of the two Bangles tunes, and quite well known.
: overall - I like playing with y'all.  So much better than even the best rounds over at ISF.  Save my one zero, which I rated only due to early childhood trauma all these songs were easily top 4 or better in a less competitive round.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 18, 2017, 09:31:22 PM
Nah, HighPockets, I was already in the lead.  I took a significant hit this round, but I consider "Will You Love Me Tomorrow" one of the greatest love songs of all time, so there was never any doubt what I'd submit in this round.

One cavil, PANTS!: It's the song of someone who's about to lose her virginity, someone who's vulnerable and naive and has all of the hangups of her time--hangups that society has done its best to preserve to this day.  And it's a song that Carole King was able to sneak past the censors in a way that is truly brilliant.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Simon Jester on January 18, 2017, 09:43:42 PM
I wanted to post some Runaways but could not get the disco out of my head. I think I would put my Emotions pic on top in this round.  I never had time to individually post comments on everything, mostly I liked all the known hits and didnt care much for the unknown ones.

Manic Monday scored highest because of its lyrics and structure (thanks Prince) and Walk like an Egyptian came in second for popularity, people like to dance to that one and make those stupid Egyptian motions with their hands (racist? not all Egyptians walk that way)  The Shirelles song was also a pretty decent classic hit.

 My wife happened to be in the room when I was listening to Indica and she said “thats a girlie band, you know for girls” then with black skirts flying goth dance floated out the room and back out of my life again for a while. It made me laugh.  She's right, that one would probably have filled the dance floor with Goth chicks but I was not hearing anything that original so only scored it midway.

I reiterate that Heart is not a "Girl Band" especially after seeing them get pissed off in an interview over the subject once but I cant find the interview online and It was not my place to disqualify other than to score it at zero. I thought I was being nice pointing this out and suggesting a chance for a replacement but then I was somewhat made to be an asshole over it. I still stand my ground on the subject, its not an opinion, they simply are not a girl band. Good choice in music though.   >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Zaros on January 18, 2017, 09:57:22 PM
wait then what I scored something wrong then.....i didnt even score the heart song...i thought something else was it wait what
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: PANTS! on January 18, 2017, 10:03:26 PM
Nah, HighPockets, I was already in the lead.  I took a significant hit this round, but I consider "Will You Love Me Tomorrow" one of the greatest love songs of all time, so there was never any doubt what I'd submit in this round.

One cavil, PANTS!: It's the song of someone who's about to lose her virginity, someone who's vulnerable and naive and has all of the hangups of her time--hangups that society has done its best to preserve to this day.  And it's a song that Carole King was able to sneak past the censors in a way that is truly brilliant.

Why "her".
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 18, 2017, 10:21:25 PM
No regrets.  Looking at the rest of my submissions, I'm pretty much going long tail for the rest of the game.  I think the cover song is the only one where people are likely to know the song I'm submitting, but this is also where all the really good stuff I've been holding back starts, so get ready to see that score soar (unless you all suddenly develop horrible taste).
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 19, 2017, 12:35:49 AM
Nah, HighPockets, I was already in the lead.  I took a significant hit this round, but I consider "Will You Love Me Tomorrow" one of the greatest love songs of all time, so there was never any doubt what I'd submit in this round.

One cavil, PANTS!: It's the song of someone who's about to lose her virginity, someone who's vulnerable and naive and has all of the hangups of her time--hangups that society has done its best to preserve to this day.  And it's a song that Carole King was able to sneak past the censors in a way that is truly brilliant.

Why "her".

Girl band. ;)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: PANTS! on January 19, 2017, 01:20:08 AM
No regrets.  Looking at the rest of my submissions, I'm pretty much going long tail for the rest of the game.  I think the cover song is the only one where people are likely to know the song I'm submitting, but this is also where all the really good stuff I've been holding back starts, so get ready to see that score soar (unless you all suddenly develop horrible taste).

Sorry dude, but did you see how I scored Hendrix - for basically the same reasons.  Classic Rock just has bad associations in my head.  I can get past it sometimes, but the more guitar heavy it gets, the more hives I  seem to get.  You wanna get me to go home?  Break out the Boston.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Zaros on January 19, 2017, 02:34:32 AM
i had boston on my list originally and i think i removed it
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 19, 2017, 08:16:55 AM
My song this week is a tribute to my son (age 3), who is obsessed with it.  Bet you can't guess which it is.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: AQB24712 on January 19, 2017, 10:49:45 AM
Damn, y'all harsh.

I am amused, however, that PANTS! and I both pointed with certainty to "the lesser of the two Bangles songs," but pointed at two different songs.  :laugh:
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 19, 2017, 11:12:15 AM
wait then what I scored something wrong then.....i didnt even score the heart song...i thought something else was it wait what

The only song you didn't score was Heart, and the only score you didn't give was 0, it seemed reasonable your intent, considering the anonymity of the submitter was outed in the thread during discussion, if you can amend your score for Heart without changing the order of ranking of the rest of the songs, I'll redo the table. 

I'm going to post round 5 when I get home tonight.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Zaros on January 19, 2017, 12:15:52 PM
i honestly had no idea what i was supposed to score for clunn
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Zaros on January 19, 2017, 12:17:27 PM
Replacement for the now taken down song:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGVhoUylCqY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGVhoUylCqY)

I thought this was clunn's but in your table it is listed as pants! song. I am so confused
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 19, 2017, 12:34:23 PM
Thinking about which song is who's shouldn't impact voting.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Gerbig on January 19, 2017, 12:45:07 PM
Thinking about which song is who's shouldn't impact voting.

Hurm, that's to be debated. This is a competition after all.
If you suspect a song to have come from a top contender, one would be motivated to rate it lower to get ahead.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: Zaros on January 19, 2017, 02:56:20 PM
its not that at all clunn...I clearly didnt judge someones song.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 19, 2017, 08:16:34 PM
Round 5 - Open
since we're this close to Friday I'm going to give you a week and half a weekend for scores. Deadline January 28th.

Black Dog - Led Zeppelin
https://youtu.be/F0YoKzsjE-0

Girls Versus Suits Suits Song How I met your mother
https://youtu.be/CiweaZQ8g5U

Living Colour, “Elvis Is Dead”
https://youtu.be/8nvpRkn_R5g

guns N roses- Sweet child of Mine
https://youtu.be/1w7OgIMMRc4

some velvet morning - The Madness of Crowds
https://youtu.be/k-PZEbZOKgc

Band on the Run - Wings
https://youtu.be/KBX2dySWGew

Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues
https://youtu.be/bDktBZzQIiU

POOLCLVB - Always
https://youtu.be/Kw67hN3uIuU

Conjure one - Center of the Sun
https://youtu.be/Gc7ij2hm9I0

Stew-She's Really Daddy Feelgood
https://youtu.be/jb_e_nvE-Fk
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Simon Jester on January 19, 2017, 09:11:12 PM
Well i thought I had a winner but maybe not. Nice round, even a few tracks I like on the initial pass that i had not heard before.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 4 - GIRL BANDS Deadline for Votes 01/14/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 19, 2017, 09:43:34 PM
Thinking about which song is who's shouldn't impact voting.

Hurm, that's to be debated. This is a competition after all.
If you suspect a song to have come from a top contender, one would be motivated to rate it lower to get ahead.

Sure, if you want to be competitive about it. Personally, I'm not even remotely concerned about who "wins". The points system is merely a structure around which we can state our preferences.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: PANTS! on January 20, 2017, 09:41:35 AM
I see a great deal of classic rock on this list.  I am not going to have a good a time judging this round, methinks.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 20, 2017, 10:02:16 AM
Did a first listen-through last night.  This round is nowhere near as strong as last one, though there are a couple of gems.  I was not inspired to create a new playlist with this week's entries.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 20, 2017, 10:49:17 AM
I'm legitimately upset that somebody submitted a song that I hate from a group I love.  I swear [insert group's name here] has better songs than that!  It will say as much in my reviews.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Gerbig on January 20, 2017, 11:04:37 AM
Gonna listen to em today and send the scores in
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 20, 2017, 03:13:40 PM
I'm not gonna say which song it is, but one of them clearly does not fit the theme.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 20, 2017, 08:36:03 PM
I admit that the highest ranked song partially got me due to the synesthesic impact.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 24, 2017, 12:16:17 AM
[ A few comments to tide you over... ]

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 27, 2017, 11:31:43 AM
Deadline is tomorrow, I think I have votes from 3 people. get that ranking done!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Gerbig on January 27, 2017, 02:01:08 PM
Im in! :perry:
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 27, 2017, 06:28:36 PM
Mine are done. I realised that I hadn't let Custard know that this round had been posted, so I have now and his scores will be in... sometime...

I have something to say, but I will wait until all of the scores have been posted before I say it.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 28, 2017, 01:11:54 AM
Sorry folks, I'm late as usual. I meant to do them tonight, but got in later than expected. Work tomorrow, I'll have them done on Sunday!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 28, 2017, 01:29:40 AM
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/incredulous.gif)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Simon Jester on January 28, 2017, 08:44:06 PM
Sorry folks, I'm late as usual. I meant to do them tonight, but got in later than expected. Work tomorrow, I'll have them done on Sunday!

Good, its his fault that I dont have mine in either, late tonight/early morning Sunday as well for me.  >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Simon Jester on January 29, 2017, 09:24:24 PM
Ok now im the asshole and if DI didnt finish his he can blame me now,  If I dont have them in by afternoon tomorrow ill just send a quick list again, Last minute changes in the show forced me to prep all weekend I gotta be up in 6 hours  >:(
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 29, 2017, 11:37:05 PM
Ok now im the asshole and if DI didnt finish his he can blame me now,  If I dont have them in by afternoon tomorrow ill just send a quick list again, Last minute changes in the show forced me to prep all weekend I gotta be up in 6 hours  >:(

Well at least I have that. I thought I'd be home this evening, but I'm only just in, and also up again in 6 hours. Work again tomorrow.

I'm a jerk, sorry!! If you can wait till Tuesday i swear to jebus it will be a top priority--if not, i understand.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Gerbig on January 30, 2017, 12:53:30 AM
Deadlines are pretty much suggestions anyway.

Its useless being salty about people being late. Wont change anything.
Take as much time as you need.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 30, 2017, 01:15:41 AM
Full disclosure: I post impatient gifs as a joke, not serious about it. It's something that you'll all just have to get used to. :p
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 30, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
you guys aren't the only two, we still have that AQB to Zar. problem with deadlines. On the plus side, this has given some people a chance to change up their submissions for Round 6 - Jingles!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on January 30, 2017, 11:39:50 AM
Just realized one of my later submissions is the "radio edit" version.  Must correct that before that round (but not next round, so I have time).
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: AQB24712 on January 30, 2017, 03:54:30 PM
Sorry y'all.  My scores are in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: arthwollipot on January 31, 2017, 02:24:15 AM
I'm not changing my next round. I already have the best advertising jingle there ever was.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: AQB24712 on January 31, 2017, 09:30:29 AM
I'm not changing my next round. I already have the best advertising jingle there ever was.

Nuh-uh, I do!  :laugh:
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 31, 2017, 04:44:39 PM
Currently stationed at a coffee shop with my good headphones and plenty of time to kill. Scores incoming!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Drunken Idaho on January 31, 2017, 05:38:54 PM
It is done.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 31, 2017, 07:03:51 PM
Still waiting on Simon, Zaros, and Custard.

While you're waiting. Judge this on a scale from one to ten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBU0_KF8sW4&feature=youtu.be&t=227

It's ok to judge the scruffiness of the dogs too.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Gerbig on January 31, 2017, 07:06:15 PM
Song alone 3/10

Song with happy doggies 9/10
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: The Latinist on January 31, 2017, 07:18:45 PM
Zero.  I think I've made my feelings about novelty songs known.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on January 31, 2017, 07:28:13 PM
Zero.  I think I've made my feelings about novelty songs known.

It's not a novelty song, it's a heartfelt outpouring of love for bean dip!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: arthwollipot on February 01, 2017, 02:32:29 AM
Custard apologises as he's been very busy recently. He'll most likely have his done by midweek.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: PANTS! on February 02, 2017, 03:36:23 PM
C'MON!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Gerbig on February 02, 2017, 03:37:49 PM
Custard apologises as he's been very busy recently. He'll most likely have his done by midweek.

Mid-week next week?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on February 02, 2017, 05:37:42 PM
Alright, round 6 will be going up on Saturday. If a player has not submitted scores before then, their song will receive all zeros, this will replace the players score, but not move their songs rankings, so there could be two separate zeros given by a player. that seems fair right? or am I missing something?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on February 02, 2017, 05:48:35 PM
Alright, round 6 will be going up on Saturday. If a player has not submitted scores before then, their song will receive all zeros, this will replace the players score, but not move their songs rankings, so there could be two separate zeros given by a player. that seems fair right? or am I missing something?

I'd still show their scores as normal, but just not count this round's score towards their total.  Their scores would obviously look inflated for this round since other people voted for theirs but they didn't vote for other people's songs.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on February 02, 2017, 06:00:15 PM
That does seem like the easier way to go. Get On It!  Or what he ^ said!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on February 03, 2017, 07:47:47 PM
One last bump! I know what you should be doing with your Friday night rather than finishing those PoliSci papers!

Get your votes in. 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Simon Jester on February 03, 2017, 11:09:04 PM
Im in, really sorry everyone!

sorta reminds me of John Lennon
I liked her older stuff better
This wins because…
Was torchered with this song all through the 80s and 90s
you get extra points
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2016!
Post by: lubbarin on February 03, 2017, 11:46:34 PM
, but my music knowledge is way too square for this crowd- and behind the times.
I take it back.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on February 04, 2017, 05:12:15 PM
Custards POOLCLVB took high honors this round, with Johnny *fuckin'* Cash not far behind. Gerbig manages to score below 20 for a second time, even bolstered by historical low scorer Zaros, he couldn't pull it off.

..ArthAQBPantsZarosDrewGerbigDISJLatCustTotal
Arth Conjure one - Center of the Sun#88180320434
AQB Living Colour- Elvis Is Dead8#3004034325
Pants Stew-She's Really Daddy Feelgood110#3321045543
Zarosguns N roses- Sweet child of Mine:231#6104010137
Drewsome velvet morning: The Madness of Crowds66106#11531048
GerbigGirls Versus Suits Suits Song How I met your mother  01281#211016
DI Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues456528#108250
SJBand on the Run - Wings3254536#6842
LatBlack Dog - Led Zeppelin500104556#641
CustPOOLCLVB - Always10442106882#54
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on February 04, 2017, 05:14:55 PM
With Custards showing this round, he's pulled into first, and Pants! and Lat all tied up at second very close behind.

Round:010203040506070809101112Total
Arth47474532340000000205
AQB34552814250000000156
Pants47573549430000000231
Zaros39214950370000000196
Drew42443132480000000197
Gerbig25152852160000000136
DI38302940500000000187
SJ37272843420000000177
Lat36556831410000000231
Cust45394947540000000234
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: arthwollipot on February 04, 2017, 05:18:52 PM
Comments?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on February 04, 2017, 05:19:41 PM
Band on the Run - Wings: I thought I had you beat with this track then somebody had to include the Man in Black FUCK, I just can't win with you people, this was a really decent round

10 Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues: This wins because…

(http://www.johnnycashhasbeeneverywhere.com/finger.png)

8 POOLCLVB - Always: Wow, somebody posted a House track besides me, you get extra points. I imagine there is a much longer version of this somewhere not to mention a dub track. This is classic Chicago big room House with some modern twists, LOVE the xylophone. Hated the cold ending but this is a radio cut.

7 Black Dog - Led Zeppelin: why is this not my top score?  hmmm, I LOVE Zeppelin, this is a great song, its just not in my top 10 Zeppelin list, I could not allow myself to score it higher than Cash and that House track deserved extra credit so its 3rd place guess, other Zeppelin songs might have scored higher, a few may have taken cashes spot but I would have been highly conflicted in doing so.

5 some velvet morning - The Madness of Crowds: sorta reminds me of John Lennon, I liked this
one

4 Stew-She's Really Daddy Feelgood: catchy song, I liked this one too

3 Living Colour, “Elvis Is Dead”  Not horrible

2 Conjure one - Center of the Sun: I liked her older stuff better

1 Girls Versus Suits Suits Song How I met your mother : NPH is the man, but not so much here

0 guns N roses- Sweet child of Mine: I hate GNR, Dislike this song more than the others because they play it so damn much, Was torcherd with this song all through the 80s and 90s at the strip clubs and even weddings “you want to hear what? Really... The Bride likes it, shit”, Fuck Axel Rose! I have no patience for him (see what I did there?)


Sorry im late

6 - Led Zep: Not my kind of music, but you can't hate Led Zep. Still sounds good today.
0 - HIMYM: I don't really like musicals/musical episodes. Don't really like this at all, doesn't help that I havent seen the show much.
3 - Living Colour: It's ok. Sax was cool towards the end. Not sure what else I can say.
1 - Guns n' Roses: Ah. This song. Nothing wrong with it, really. His voice is irritating in my opinion. This was the classic "song that got absolutely flogged to death". Hell, it still gets flogged. It's not that I don't like it, it's that I'm sick of it.
10 - Some Velvet Morning: I like this as a roadtrip song. Sounds like it would be in a sadish montage, but I like songs like that. It is soothing, in a way. Adding this to my playlist for sure.
8 - Wings: Oh yeah, this is my jam. Love the guitar after the intro. Perfect headbop song.
2 - Johnny Cash: I don't like Cash much, sorry. I'm sure this is considered a great song, but I just dont enjoy listening to it.
4 - Conjure One: Reminds me of Amethystium but with vocals. I would fall asleep to this. The vocals don't really match the rest of the music though. Bit dissapointing to an otherwise great song.
5 - Stew: Another one of those "It's ok" songs. It's not my cup of tea, but I can dig it.

The "Good Shit! Will add to playlist!" tier

Stew-She's Really Daddy Feelgood - 10
     Oh man, he's just got one of those voices that would sound good singing any words. I actually loved the (often nonsensical but clever) lyrics in this, but he could have been singing the dictionary and I'd have still liked this a lot. Yes.

POOLCLVB - Always - 8
     Ok, neat ambient vibe going on here. Yeah, I like this! Nice bouncy bass in the chorus, and I like the singer's style--breathy, but not whiny. I'd put this on some of my electronica playlists. Honestly, a little too short! I don't say that very often...

The "pretty... pretty good" tier

Band on the Run - Wings - 6
     Really enjoyed the crescendo of energy, it's a neat compositional form. Plodding, kinda boring intro, but the energy knob is slowly dialed up to a solid 6 or 7, with a pleasant, catchy chorus. (inserts score) ...well that worked out well.

Black Dog - Led Zeppelin - 5
     Good choice for a Zeppelin song, I like this one quite a lot. The mirrored bass+guitar is so effective.

The "pretty good, but..." tier
     
guns N roses- Sweet child of Mine - 4
     Objectively, a good song that I like, but man, I've just heard it SO many times. And Axl's extreme upper register (though impressive) has always kind of annoyed me.

Conjure one - Center of the Sun - 3
     Ok, the vibe is nice... and the harmonics are nice... everything is just kinda nice. Nothing bothers me, but nothing grabs me, either. Screw this, I'm going to go listen to Daddy Feelgood again...

Girls Versus Suits Suits Song How I met your mother - 2
     First of all, I like the thinking outside the box, maximizing the "openness" of the open round. It's fun, and well done, but suffers the same problem that most comedy songs have (with me)--in that they may be fun, but very unlikely to make it onto any of my playlists (my general rating metric). As for this specific song... yeah, it's fun, but it's little more than some well-applied Broadway tropes pasted under some decently clever lyrics. In the show? Awesome. On my headphones? meh.

The "not my bag, baby" tier

some velvet morning - The Madness of Crowds - 1
     Sooooo borrrrrred.... hahah, it's not bad. In fact I quite liked the lyrics, and the bridge *almost* got me into the song... but seriously, so boring.

Living Colour, “Elvis Is Dead” - 0
     I like the combination of genres here, but the song is really just kinda boring. Super repetitive, never really goes anywhere... meh. Most rounds, this wouldn't have received a 0; it wouldn't make it onto my "least favorite songs of SGUForumvision" list, I just liked all the other songs better this round.


I was already familiar with five of the songs submitted for this round, which is a new record.  That doesn’t mean anything.  Nothing here really excited me.  Oh well.


Stew, “She’s Really Daddy Feelgood”  10
I remember hearing of Stew a few years ago with his New York show Passing Strange, but I don’t think I’d heard any of his music.  This is darned catchy, although the lyrics aren’t so feel-good.  It’s the only one of the new-to-me songs of the round that I’d consider buying.

Conjure One, “Center of the Sun”  8
Well, this is lovely, thank you.

Some Velvet Morning, “The Madness of Crowds”  6
Lovely waltz.  Sweet piano.  Subversive lyrics.

Johnny Cash, “Folsom Prison Blues”  5
In contrast to my comments on Wings below, I am always glad to hear this classic.

POOLCLVB, “Always”  4
Dance, damn you!  And then forget this song immediately.  Nice enough, unmemorable.

Guns N’ Roses, “Sweet Child O’Mine”  3
I used to like this song a whole damn lot.  Now I find that Axl’s yowl has worn out its welcome (but gosh, he was pretty then), although the guitar work still sizzles.

Wings, “Band on the Run”  2
Bland, inoffensive lite-rock offering.  If it came on the radio, I’d zone out until it was over.

Neil Patrick Harris, “Girls Versus Suits”  1
Some musical numbers have lasting appeal when removed from context, and of course Neil Patrick Harris is a charming song-and-dance man, but yeah.

Led Zeppelin, “Black Dog”  0
Sorry, whoever submitted this, but I have a deep and abiding loathing for Led Zeppelin. 


Living Colour, “Elvis Is Dead”
This song rocks.  And features a guest appearance by Little Richard.


Led Zeppelin - Black Dog: 5. This is pretty much straight-down-the-line Zep. Sounds pretty much like every other Led Zeppelin song, which is basically its strength. It was an iconic sound, and this is a pretty decent example of it.

Neil Patrick Harris - Girls Versus Suits: 0. Eh. It's basically NPH being NPH. If you're into showtunes, I guess.

Living Colour - Elvis Is Dead: 8. This isn't bad. Nothing to write home about, but not bad. It's fun, and it has a good groove.

Guns 'N Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine: 2. More iconic sound. But I'm taking some points off for posting a billboard top 100 song that everyone already knows. It's an okay song, but I don't play this game to hear music that I can hear in every club and pub or whenever I turn on the radio.

Some Velvet Morning - The Madness of Crowds: 6. Not bad. A little dull musically, but it's okay.

Wings - Band On The Run: 3. See my comments above. I didn't even need to listen to this one, I'm already so very familiar with every note.

Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues: 4. And another one. I'm not that into Cash, but he's always pretty much like this. Isn't this, like, his signature song? Something a bit more unusual next time, eh?

POOLCLVP - Always: 10. Decent light house. It's not bad. But it's not awesome.

Conjure One - Centre of the Sun: Mine. Quality chill.

Stew - She's Really Daddy Feelgood: 1. Dull. This song really has nothing interesting about it. If I heard this on the radio, I wouldn't remember it afterwards.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on February 04, 2017, 05:21:02 PM
0- Conjure one - Center of the Sun: I just felt nothing listening to this song.

1- some velvet morning: The Madness of Crowds- Angsty breathy noise. Did not like.

2- Stew-She's Really Daddy Feelgood: Its alright, but there are songs like this song doing it better.

3- Band on the Run – Wings: Lots of style, not enough substance in this song. Does that make sense? Feels like it makes sense.

4- Living Colour- Elvis Is Dead : Well, what a snappy little song. First time ive ever heard it, like it.

5- Black Dog - Led Zeppelin: I love this song. If its put on in a bar, ill gladly tap my foot along.

6- POOLCLVB – Always: Nice energy, lyrics are meh, but just for casual listening, its great.

8- Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues: I cant rate this song low, impossible.

10- guns N roses- Sweet child of Mine: I had to rate this song the highest. It was the song chosen by my highschool as “our song”. Played at grad and prom.

10 Sweet Child of Mine - A great song, and the guitar work by Slash is stellar, but the lyrics lack depth.  This just edges out Folsom Prison Blues based on musical merit.
8 Folsom Prison Blues - This is a great song, and the lyric "but I shot a man in Reno / just to watch him die" always haunted me.  Like so many of Johnny's songs, this speaks to the senseless waste of potential.
6 Band on The Run - This song is a bit scattered—like McCartney had parts of three songs he couldn't finish that he just decided to string together.  The second stanza always seemed to me to be the strongest, and I wonder if it couldn't have formed the nucleus of a great song.
5 She's Really Daddy Feelgood - An inoffensive song with a couple of really nice moments. 
4 Elvis is Dead - Not my favorite.  In a stronger round it would not have fared as well.
3 The Madness of Crowds - listening to this song I get a feeling that there's something I'm missing—that for a song to take itself so seriously it must have a hidden depth.  But I don't see it.
2 Always - This is one where I see how some people could really like it, but I just can't join them. It's not my cup of tea.
1 Girls vs Suits - Again, a novelty song like this is going to really have to knock it out of the park.  This one didn't.
0 Center of the Sun - Sorry, I couldn't even finish this. (Note: I later forced myself to listen to it.)

Black Dog - Led Zeppelin: 00 - There are some Zepplin songs I would not rate 0.  This is not one of them.  Bit O PANTS! trivia by way of further justification - adding to the overplayedness of this song in the first half of life, I sang it almost every weekend in one of the cover bands I was in for almost a year.  I quit to join a band that played DK cover songs.

guns N roses- Sweet child of Mine: 01 - There's that one bit of this song that always reminds me of Sam Kinison. Oh, Oh, Oh Oh Oh!  Say what you want about GnR, but at their height they were as good as Nirvana.  They just never got perceived as cool as grunge.  Still, this is really an easy mode submission, and as much as I like it, I gotta put one at the bottom, so I mays well dink the massive hit(s).

Girls Versus Suits Suits Song How I met your mother: 02 - Well, its fun, but I always have difficultly squaring Barney's treatment of women with what is funny to me.

Living Colour, “Elvis Is Dead”: 03 - I forgot about this song.  I never knew James Brown was on it!  Makes sense, these guys were always like a low rent metal/punk James Brown.  Pretty good, but Fishbone does it better.  Also stomachs do not crawl - skin does.

POOLCLVB - Always: 04 - Not bad.  Standard electronica.  I liked the xylophone(?) flourishes.

Band on the Run - Wings: 05 - Man, what to do about Macca & Wings.  For some reason many Southern classic rock stations stayed away from the Beatles and Wings, so I don't have the Chemotheraputic associations with their music.  I really fucking love Wings, and this is an emblematic song from them.  How did such a weird song ever become such a big hit.  That said, it not Wing's best, and while interesting, and nostalgic, its not - gulp - that well.....good.

Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues: 06 - It's a classic.  And, I would argue a real punk classic, back when country could be punk.  Still, this is a bit of a gimme association.  On the other hand, I just listened to it 4 times in a row.  That cheer when he boasts about being a casual killer is chilling and thrilling.

Conjure one - Center of the Sun: 08 - She has a haunting voice.

some velvet morning - The Madness of Crowds: 10 - This one grabbed me and didn't let go.

Stew-She's Really Daddy Feelgood: mine - Stew is a latter day Macca!  His lyrics are really fucking witty, and I find his tunes haunting.  They stick in my brain for days.  He's written a great musical, and he did some more accessible stuff with a band called The Negro Problem.  I hasten to add, more accessible musically.....

: overall - Not as great as last round, but as difficult to score.  Save for the classic rock dregs, none of these deserved a low score.  Have I mentioned how much I like playing with you folks?

0 Elvis Is Dead - Living Colour
Living Colour has such better songs!  Why not Cult Of Personality?  That could easily have swept this round.  Don't be turned off to this group based on the weakness of this particular song!

1 Girls Versus Suits - How I Met Your Mother
That girl was not a 10, and neither was this song.

2 Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
I love folk.  I love story songs.  I love deep smoke-tinted voices.  I love the rebel aesthetic.  But for some reason Johnny Cash songs (with a few notable exceptions) just don't do it for me.

3 She's Really Daddy Feelgood - Stew
Decent enough as background music.

4 Black Dog - Led Zeppelin
This begins the triad of classics that I love, but can't give top marks for already being on my regular rotation.

5 Band on the Run - Wings
The inspired experimental introduction is the real strength of this song.

6 Sweet Child of Mine - Guns N Roses
Much better song than November rain.  Yeah I said it.

8 Center of the Sun - Conjure One
Whether to put this song above or below the triad of good, but familiar songs was the only tough part about scoring this round.

10 Always - POOLCLVB
When the synthesized xylophone or chimes came in, that's the moment I went form "Do I like this song?" to "okay, yes, I'm digging this."
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: PANTS! on February 04, 2017, 05:41:09 PM
Memo to myself: fuck the cowbell, needs more xylophone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekL7o8BQkZM
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: arthwollipot on February 04, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Cool. I wasn't last.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: The Latinist on February 04, 2017, 06:28:34 PM
Yeah, Andrew, there's other Zepplin that's better (though I love the play with time signatures in Black Dog), but this is my three-year-old's favorite song, so when it came time to cut I just couldn't do it.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Gerbig on February 04, 2017, 08:56:22 PM
Yea, I went with a novelty song, didnt pan out. Meh, my jingle is fucking awesome

PS: Zaros, you get me
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Zaros on February 04, 2017, 10:03:28 PM
I single handedly doubled Gerbig's song haha. You're welcome friend.

Custard's song won? eww gross
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Zaros on February 04, 2017, 10:06:34 PM
Also just realized Gerbig gave mine a 10
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Gerbig on February 04, 2017, 10:08:32 PM
Also just realized Gerbig gave mine a 10

Yea, you hit me right in the nostalgia bone with that one.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Andrew Clunn on February 04, 2017, 11:33:08 PM
So many people are talking up their ad jingles.  I expect great things.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: Simon Jester on February 05, 2017, 12:05:13 AM
that xylophone really was something special. I cant find the dub mix but there must be one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK-O2Yfajfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sh9PXF11GE
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 5 - OPEN Deadline for Votes 01/28/17
Post by: HighPockets on February 05, 2017, 04:56:27 PM
Hang tight, between broken videos and funeral homes, we've had a slight delay in starting the next round. we'll return you to your regularly scheduled programming ASAP
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 05, 2017, 06:13:15 PM
Round 6 jingles

Golden Grahams

https://youtu.be/iA_VfIKvkJk

Free credit report

https://youtu.be/bnuRLURYqVM

Crossfire

https://youtu.be/rCwn1NTK-50

aeroplane Jelly

https://youtu.be/dJZ2w6Q_Uww

Holidays are coming - Coca-Cola Christmas

https://youtu.be/ogetBqMgau0

Slip Slop Slap:

https://youtu.be/b7nocIenCYg

Crocker Bank "Wedding"

https://youtu.be/TVGmdwHTP1I

Kia Soul

https://youtu.be/qQQkElKi0NQ

“Martha White”

https://youtu.be/ZxgBycCuqVQ

J.G. Wentworth Commercial - Viking Opera

https://youtu.be/pdPM6j1Q4sg
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: The Latinist on February 05, 2017, 07:08:25 PM
Would the players who submitted "We've Only Just Begun" and "Crossfire" care to exchange them for the actual jingles?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Gerbig on February 05, 2017, 07:12:09 PM
Would the players who submitted "We've Only Just Begun" and "Crossfire" care to exchange them for the actual jingles?

I was wondering about this as well.

Is jingle in this contest "a song used in a commercial" or is it a song created specifically for a commercial?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: The Latinist on February 05, 2017, 07:19:56 PM
Well, "We've Only Just Begun" started life as an "anti-jingle" created specifically for a commercial.  But the version here is not that jingle.  And the Crossfire thing seems to be "inspired by" a commercial.  In my book, neither of these meets the theme as submitted.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Andrew Clunn on February 05, 2017, 07:31:58 PM
I admit that I had to look up we've only just begun to understand its context.  Because pretty much everybody else limited themselves to the versions of their songs that were actually used in ads, it would be really unfair to compare them to full versions of songs that happened to have been used in part by a commercial.

Edit -

I think some people thought these were songs made for ads.  Others thought it was versions of songs as they appeared in ads.  Because all but two people went with the second, it does seem like a bit of a consensus has formed.  Not stating that those songs would get automatic bottom for me or anything if not switched out.  I'd have to reflect on it.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 05, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
OK, Flag on the Play, Superbowl Sunday and all. Crossfire has been replaced, and I will replace the carpenters, should the submitter request a substitution. 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 05, 2017, 07:49:07 PM
Boy, you guys can keep a game mod on their toes, ok, subs have been submitted, and the line-up stands corrected. now when you're done watching the superbowl commercials, you can watch and rate some more commercials.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: The Latinist on February 05, 2017, 08:06:39 PM
Looking much better.  Thanks!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Drunken Idaho on February 05, 2017, 11:15:41 PM
Good job, HP, thanks!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: arthwollipot on February 06, 2017, 01:05:07 AM
I'll get to this within the next couple of days.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Andrew Clunn on February 06, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
This is a very odd round.  Not sure what standards I should be using here.  Jingle I know get nostalgia, but then maybe it's about how I feel about the product, or how I'd have felt if I was the target demographic at the time, or just how catchy the song is, and can I really separate them from the commercial?  Gosh this round is hard.  I'm gonna have to give these several listens.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Simon Jester on February 06, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
I think the deal with this round will be to upvote the jingles that stick in my head the most after listening.

There is at least one on there I have trouble considering a "Jingle"
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: The Latinist on February 06, 2017, 02:00:18 PM
Comments from different ends of my list:
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: arthwollipot on February 07, 2017, 02:09:43 AM
Not tonight, sorry. Probably Thursday.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 13, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Oh shit!  Funeral this weekend totally made me forget to remind all of you that votes are due. Come on, these are all short and sweet, so it shouldn't take long. I'm on call this week, which essentially means the coming weekend is going to be horrible. so I'll have to tally stuff before or after. I guess that all depends on when you all get those votes in.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: arthwollipot on February 14, 2017, 05:01:35 AM
Tomorrow for sure.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Simon Jester on February 14, 2017, 11:50:27 PM
this one had me toe tappin
I already forgot about it
I would never purchase this product
I gave it a pass
this sticks in my head
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: arthwollipot on February 15, 2017, 01:41:11 AM
Okay, I'm going to do mine now.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: arthwollipot on February 15, 2017, 02:05:48 AM
And done, and sent.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 17, 2017, 01:35:43 PM
I only have five scores so far. 50% completion rate. you know who you are, don't make me name names.

Jingle all the way!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Andrew Clunn on February 17, 2017, 02:15:33 PM
Oh damn!  Okay, woops.  Running a mafia game get's distracting.  I'm sorry.  Will get those in by end of day.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Drunken Idaho on February 17, 2017, 05:28:37 PM
Mine are in, wooooooo.

That was a fun round, great theme!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Andrew Clunn on February 22, 2017, 10:08:46 AM
Come on people!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: arthwollipot on February 23, 2017, 01:17:36 AM
Yeah, where are we?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 23, 2017, 10:22:51 AM
It would appear that we are still waiting on the classic combo, the alpha and omega, the A to Z continuum the AQB and the ZAR. some people love advertising jingles sooooo much they just can't make up their minds.

I'll score the round tomorrow with or with out their rankings.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: AQB24712 on February 23, 2017, 05:47:52 PM
Ah, goddammit.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Drunken Idaho on February 23, 2017, 08:38:56 PM
I still need to submit my round 7 song, will super get on that tomorrow
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 24, 2017, 12:10:31 PM
Only waiting on one score, AQB did in fact get her's in before Zaros. I'll tally this afternoon/tonight and post round seven once DI get's his in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 24, 2017, 07:12:09 PM
Round six scores!  Wow the only way Crossfire was going to score anything is the pure hatred of another jingle. Andrew takes the Lowest Scorer in a round record!

..ArthAQBPantsZarosDrewGerbigDISJLatCustTot.
ArthSlip Slop Slap #234426411036
AQBMartha White 4#103551055350
PantsCrocker Bank "Wedding" 21#013166121
ZarosKia Soul Hamsters 1081#210003034
DrewCrossfire 0021#1310210
Gerbig JG Wentworth664610#8310457
DI golden grahams cerea358864#104856
SJHolidays are coming 5302882#8541
Latfree credit report.com1106100648#651
CustAeroplane Jelly 845530522#34

Comments and Running totals coming soon!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 24, 2017, 07:14:47 PM
Free Credit Report Dot Com  10
So dorky, but I really enjoyed this whole ad campaign.

Kia Soul  8
Nope, you can’t tell what they’re selling if you don’t have the visuals, but I dig it anyway.

J.G. Wentworth  6
It’s so absurd—opera (or “opera”) being used to sell dubious financial services, but dang derned if it doesn’t stick in your head.

Golden Grahams  5
This commercial always irked me because of the way they say “Gray-ums.”

Aeroplane Jelly  4
Interesting, historic, and vaguely creepy.  I wonder if the brand exists still, and if they ever used an updated version of this jingle.

Coca-Cola Christmas Trucks  3
That “holidays are coming” chant manages to make the anticipation of a festive holiday sound menacing.

Sid the Seagull  2
Memorable—which is good for a jingle—perhaps because of Sid’s annoyingly wet S’s. 

Crocker Bank  1
Interesting because the jingle became a hit song, but I still find it mawkish and icky, not to my taste.  Not a fan of such overt emotional manipulation.

Crossfire  0
Whoa, settle down there, fella.  No need to holler at me so aggressively.


Martha White
It’s legit, and it’s the shit.  Flatt and Scruggs are the real deal.  I’ve wondered if this always-live endorsement was the inspiration for Prairie Home Companion’s Powdermilk Biscuits song.


Late again, sorry. No proper reviews as I was limited on time.

0 - Kia:  There are not enough words to describe how much I hate this ad
1 - Crocker
2 - Crossfire
3 - Martha White
4 - JG Wentworth
5 - Coke
6 - Pirate
8 - Golden Grahams   
10 - Slip Slop Slap


The "Now THAT's a got-damned jingle!" tier.

“Martha White” - 10
     YES! SO AWESOME! I will so buy Martha White flour if that's still a thing, and I'd listen to the jingle by itself because I love folk style.

J.G. Wentworth Commercial - Viking Opera - 8
     Oh man, that's catchy AF! So good. And I cracked up when the basso came in. But early Classical (mid 1700s) European opera musical composition (Gluck, Mozart, etc.) performed with German Romantic (mid to late 1800s), specifically Wagnerian production?? STEREOTYPES ARE HARMFUL, BRA

Slip Slop Slap - 6
     Hell yeah, that's what I'm talkin' bout! Great job, submitter.

The "jingles should be an annoying earworm; NAILED IT" tier

aeroplane Jelly - 5
     Holy shit that was awesome, haha.

Free credit report - 4
     Seriously, nailed it. One of those commercials that was amusing the first time, and very quickly grows tired... but I'll be damned if you don't still get the product name stuck in your head

The "barely a jingle" tier

Crossfire
     CrossFIA! Oh man, major nostalgia credit here. Barely qualifies as a jingle. Barely. The product is certainly placed, but there's not much of a jingle beyond the singing of the product's name.

Holidays are coming - Coca-Cola Christmas
     Same complaint as Crossfire (I'll count singing "always cocacola" as a jingle), but the rest was just some schlocky crap song. 

The "not a jingle" tier

Crocker Bank "Wedding" - 1
     DISQUALIFIED! Song that is associated with a specific commercial or product? Sure. But a jingle has to be about said product, in my book. You'd never know what you were supposed to buy if you heard that on the radio.

Kia Soul - 0
     DISQUALIFIED! Same reason as above. Crocker Bank's song at least contained lyrics thematically associated with convincing you to patronize their product; the Dueling Banjos here have even less to do with cars, however catchy and lovable one finds the song and hamsters.



0 Free credit report - I hated these commercials, in large part because I hated this jingle.

1 Crocker Bank "Wedding" - Maybe this is just too meta.  I don't get it.  Like I get what it's for, but not what they're for, or how this...  Huh...

2 Kia Soul - I listened and was unimpressed with the genre shifting of a simple tune we've all heard before.  So I tried the video and was like, "Hampsters jam session that summons people pied piper style to come see a car?"  Just forgettable.

3 aeroplane Jelly - Okay.  No strong feelings either way here.

4 Slip Slop Slap - Protect your kids by beating them!  Wait, that's not what it's saying?  Oh sunscreen...  Sthhwell lithle adth you goth here.

5 “Martha White” - Ah commissioned work as advertisement attempting to pass itself off as authentic.  Gotta love the balls on people who do that.  Simple and short enough as to not be off-putting.

6 Golden Grahams - Before my time, but has that "before my time false nostalgia" feel to it.

8 Coca-Cola Christmas - So much better than the commercials they run now.  This conveyed upbeat positivity.  Today they just outright state it with beat you over the head with, "We're good people and you will be too if you drink this sugar water!!!"  Am I rating this higher because of how much I hate present day Coca-cola ads?  Perhaps.  But that's as good a reason as any in this category.

10 J.G. Wentworth Commercial (Viking Opera) - A musical ad that works well as an ad because of the music.  Yes.  Exactly.  We have a winner.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 24, 2017, 07:16:08 PM
Golden Grahams: 08 - Homer does it better, but its a pretty good jingle

Free credit report: 06 - It sure does stick in your head

Crossfire: 02 - I mean, I guess someone may like it.

aeroplane Jelly: 05 - I remember this.

Holidays are coming - Coca-Cola Christmas: 00 - Just boring, cutish chanting.

Slip Slop Slap:: 03 - I should like this more, but his voice is squicking me out!

Crocker Bank "Wedding": mine - Written by the great Andy Williams.

Kia Soul: 01 - Creepy AF, and not original

“Martha White”: 10 - I'm a sucker for real music in my jingle (cf my submission)

J.G. Wentworth Commercial - Viking Opera: 04 - Pretty good musically, albiet not my style.

: overall - Weird ass round.

Golden Grahams: 3. Completely generic. However, I do like that they pronounced "Grahams" correctly, with two syllables. Graham, not Gram.

Free Credit Report Dot Com: 1. Uh-huh. Again, completely generic. Not even any pronunciation perks.

Crossfire: 0. I could barely hear this.

Aeroplane Jelly: 8. In America, this stuff would be called "Airplane Jello". And it was an icon. My grandmother used to sing it when she made us jelly.

Coca Cola Christmas Trucks: 5. Again, pretty generic, but mildly enjoyable anyway.

Slip Slop Slap: Mine. This ad literally changed Australia. Before this ad aired, no-one wore hats. After, everyone did. It singlehandedly raised skin cancer to the consciousness of ordinary Australians. I still smile every time I see it.

Crocker Bank: 2. I don't know whether to take a point off this one for being a popular song licensed for use in the advertisement, rather than one that was penned for the purpose. I think I will.

Kia Soul Hamsters: 10. This one ought also to get a point taken off, but it was so well done I'm going to forgive it. I liked how they changed it.

Martha White: 4. This almost wasn't even a jingle at all. I had to really listen carefully to the lyrics to work out what it was advertising. I'm still not completely sure.

J. G. Wentworth: 6. I'll pay this. It doesn't have the gravitas of a true Wagner, but that's okay.


Round 6 jingles

Holidays are coming - Coca-Cola Christmas: my pick and I think the best one, I’m worried some people will hold the christmas theme against me but this is imo one of the best jingles ever produced, it makes me all warm inside and sticks in my head the most.

10. Golden Grahams: great choice, this sticks in my head and reminds me of my childhood

8 Free credit report : great campaign that sends traffic to a site nobody needs (the reports are free without going through the site) brilliant

6 Crocker Bank "Wedding": Paul williams does not ever get enough credit, this one was borderline “jingle” but I gave it a pass since we first heard it in a commercial. I have played the carpenters song about a zillion times at weddings.

5 “Martha White”: this one had me toe tappin, fun Jingle and it sticks in my head

4 Slip Slop Slap: Funny but does not stick in my head

3 J.G. Wentworth Commercial - Viking Opera, does not stick in my head and I’m not fond of this kind of fake opera

2 aeroplane Jelly: this got on my nerves, i would never purchase this product for that reason

1 Crossfire: there is not much to this, I already forgot about it

0 Kia Soul: sorry, great song but not a “jingle” this would have rated high in the film soundtrack category

0- Aeroplane Jelly- The little girl singing it, wasn’t feeling it
1-Crossfire – Dunno, seemed like a lazy paint by numbers 90s song. Not really catchy.
2-Slip Slop Slap – The person singing it ruined it
3- Crocker Bank "Wedding"- I liked it a little
4-Golden Grahams – This song sounds like skipping
5-“Martha White” - Knee slapping good
6-Free credit report- Who knew a song about free credit reports could be catchy?
8-Holidays are coming - Coca-Cola Christmas – Coke sure knows how to advertise.
10- Kia Soul – I cant help myself

10. J G Wentworth - Any jingle that gets stuck in my like this one deserves the top vote.
8. Holidays Are Coming - Other Coca-Cola songs would have scored higher with me—I even considered submitting one myself—but this is pretty good.  I like the train effect.
6. We’ve Only Just Begun - An “anti-jingle” for a bank that wanted to connect to its customers on a real level.  Works for me.
5. Martha White - A radio jingle! And one with musical merit!
4. Golden Grahams - Catchy, but annoying.
3. Share Some Soul - I'm not sure this is really a jingle, although it's enough of one not to be DQ'd as unthematic. I actually kind of liked, it, but it doesn't serve the purpose a jingle needs to of making you remember the brand or product.
2. Aeroplane Jelly - Just can’t stand the voice.  Sorry.
1. Slip Slop Slap - Um…wow.
0. Crossfire - Never liked it, sorry.

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: arthwollipot on February 24, 2017, 07:31:00 PM
I just want to take a moment to re-emphasise that the Slip Slop Slap commercial literally changed the country. It was one of the most important and effective ad campaigns in Australian television history. People who didn't live through it just don't grasp what it was like.

And yes, the correct pronunciation of "graham" is with two syllables. Two vowels = two syllables. Pronouncing it with one is an insult to vowels.

Highpockets, can you confirm that you received the couple of modifications to my list that I sent you?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 24, 2017, 07:43:02 PM
The Latinist kicking butt and taking names. Like that Free Credit Report Pirate.

Round:123456789101112Total
Arth474745323436000000241
AQB345528142550000000206
Pants475735494321000000252
Zaros392149503734000000230
Drew424431324810000000207
Gerbig251528521657000000193
DI383029405056000000243
SJ372728434241000000218
Lat365568314151000000282
Cust453949475434000000268


Round Seven is an open round, I haven't reviewed entries, to see if your submissions are all still available, so I need a little time to review. best case it'll be up tonight, worse case tomorrowish.
 
Arth, I got a replacement for round 12, I don't see one for any other ones, but you've got time if there are other substitutions.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Zaros on February 24, 2017, 08:24:27 PM
Gerbig always giving me those 10's
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Gerbig on February 24, 2017, 08:28:49 PM
Gerbig always giving me those 10's

I got you.

Im still comfortably in the rear. Woot
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Andrew Clunn on February 24, 2017, 10:05:41 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: The Latinist on February 25, 2017, 12:22:12 AM
Arthwollipot: I have to take strong issue will your comments about "We've Only Just Begun"; it was not "a popular song licensed for use in the advertisement."  As was pointed out in the thread, it was commissioned by Crocker Bank for use in that TV spot and only later became a hit single in an expanded version.  You've got the history of that song completely wrong.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: Simon Jester on February 25, 2017, 01:49:45 AM
It was also written by (the great) Paul Williams not Andy

Sent from my Z981 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: arthwollipot on February 25, 2017, 02:34:36 AM
Arthwollipot: I have to take strong issue will your comments about "We've Only Just Begun"; it was not "a popular song licensed for use in the advertisement."  As was pointed out in the thread, it was commissioned by Crocker Bank for use in that TV spot and only later became a hit single in an expanded version.  You've got the history of that song completely wrong.

I did not know that. I was only aware of it as a popular song.

Regardless, it's still a terrible song.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 6 - Favorite Advertising Jingle
Post by: HighPockets on February 26, 2017, 06:23:30 PM
Ok here we go round Seven, some background music for those of you watching the Acadmey Awards. Dead line in a week, or you know...whenever AQB and Zaros get their scores in.

https://youtu.be/K38xNqZvBJI


https://youtu.be/tuK6n2Lkza0


https://youtu.be/jFi2ZM_7FnM


https://youtu.be/QM_rIaUm7ac


https://youtu.be/os7uLjNZKU8


https://youtu.be/Vt-rQPKRI5I


https://youtu.be/B8TjpHcQ8gI


https://youtu.be/5X-Mrc2l1d0


https://youtu.be/uwX0fkGf5rA


https://youtu.be/mXYG1cevvC0
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: arthwollipot on February 27, 2017, 01:54:35 AM
We seem to have Icky Blossoms twice.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on February 27, 2017, 02:15:17 AM
We seem to have Icky Blossoms twice.

And 11 links. Methinks there were no repeats, but one was accidentally posted twice.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on February 27, 2017, 07:12:13 AM
oops, no double scores for you! extraneous entry has been removed.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: The Latinist on February 27, 2017, 09:50:29 AM
Interesting round.  A couple of songs I really like, a couple that I feel like I should like, and at least one that I wanted to dislike, but couldn't. I'm not submitting yet, as I want to listen through a few more times, but a couple of comments:

I think this is the first round in which I will have to give scores of 0 and 1 to songs that I felt really didn't deserve them.  None of these songs is bad, and ultimately it came down to personal preference in a lot of cases.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: PANTS! on February 27, 2017, 02:07:31 PM
Mine are in:

Only one bummer in there, but only one real standout as well, IMHO. 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Andrew Clunn on February 27, 2017, 02:50:54 PM
There's a clear trend with some of this music.  That's all I'm going to say.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 03, 2017, 05:45:56 PM
Hey it's Friday! Enjoy your weekend listening to some great tunes and ranking them in order of who's the BEST!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: arthwollipot on March 03, 2017, 07:41:16 PM
Yeah, I'll do it today. Custard has been informed.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: arthwollipot on March 03, 2017, 09:27:47 PM
And done.

Hotel California was unavailable. But that's okay, because I didn't need it.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: The Latinist on March 03, 2017, 10:10:19 PM
Mine are in, too.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 05, 2017, 07:55:25 PM
Sunday evening! Where did the time go! Oh yeah, listening to great music and rating it from best to worst...















not. (get your scores in)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on March 06, 2017, 01:39:37 AM
By the power of vodka!

Hold on, I have to go kill some Pokemon, then this is getting done.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on March 06, 2017, 12:59:19 PM
Mine are in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Gerbig on March 06, 2017, 03:34:53 PM
Mine are in.

Pretty good round overall, only a couple I didnt care for. Excited for the cover round. Covers and remixes are some of my favorite kinds of music.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Andrew Clunn on March 06, 2017, 10:05:21 PM
Will do mine tomorrow.  Sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Andrew Clunn on March 09, 2017, 02:22:49 PM
Oh gosh.  It's still me.  Sorry, gone through twice with comments but never did the final ranking.  Okay one more listen through then sending them in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 09, 2017, 04:33:07 PM
Still waiting on AQB, Custard, and Zaros.

Andrew, I can see why it took so long, you gave the best song of the round a zero. must have been a very tough decision. :)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Gerbig on March 09, 2017, 10:10:10 PM
I eagerly await next round. Love covers.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Zaros on March 10, 2017, 12:37:29 AM
Yeahhhh yeah
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: arthwollipot on March 10, 2017, 12:43:16 AM
I've sent a reminder to Custard, the little scamp.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: The Latinist on March 10, 2017, 12:58:58 AM
Yeah, let's get this rolling.  The weekend is the best time for listening.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: AQB24712 on March 10, 2017, 11:15:01 AM
Still waiting on AQB, Custard, and Zaros.

Had a li'l listening party with one of my students.  :)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 10, 2017, 11:33:49 AM
I will forever hear the Toreador from Carmen with the lyrics from Gilligan's Island.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXId5jOTxdg
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: The Latinist on March 10, 2017, 11:37:33 AM
I will forever hear the Toreador from Carmen with the lyrics from Gilligan's Island.

Me too!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Simon Jester on March 10, 2017, 12:16:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuABhumm6fY
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 10, 2017, 01:04:31 PM
Jeopardy - Score = 0, Sure Prog rock bands like Yes can get away with a 15 min song, but then they have a history behind them. This goes on and on without ever truly making a statement. I'm on board with the likes of the Bootleg Grateful Dead nooding on FOREVER but seriously this has no imagination what-so-ever. they needed a producer that said "hold the cow bell, and cut this down to like 30 seconds." no one is ever going to listen to this other then the band's mothers. Go back to the garage, put down the synthesizer, and pick up a guitar. 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Simon Jester on March 10, 2017, 01:14:43 PM
the point being that it produces stress which makes you answer questions and play games faster, it does not seem to work on skeptics.  >:D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: arthwollipot on March 10, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
Anyway, it's designed as a background to something else, not as a standalone piece of music intended to be listened to for its own merits.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 10, 2017, 05:58:56 PM
It was a joke you guys.  ::) lighten up it's Friday.

I'll post round eight tomorrow morning. Get those scores in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: The Latinist on March 10, 2017, 09:23:42 PM
Yes, please.  I need something to listen to while doing my bathroom renovation.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 11, 2017, 02:46:10 PM
Sorry for the delay, I gotta get a couple of clarifications on round 8 submissions. I'll get it up as soon as I can.

and scores too.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on March 11, 2017, 03:39:46 PM
I'll get it up as soon as I can.

and scores too.

 :pervert:
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 17, 2017, 07:51:21 PM
DI runs away with it with Gold! and unsurprisingly Gerbig and Zaros traded tens.

..ArthAQBPantsZarosDrewGerbigDISJLatCust
ArthLissie - The Habit #828108011341
AQBIcky Blossoms, "Stark Weather" 3#1430155628
PantsParty at Ground Zero - Fishbone 06#30510103138
ZarosJet - Are You Gonna Be My Girl 155#6103410246
DrewTombstone da Deadman, "My Stand"  2362#3562534
GerbigBowling for Soup, "1985" 443102#636038
DIThe Cat Empire, "Brighter Than Gold" 81010182#88863
SJMJ Rock with you 5046144#4432
LatEagles, "Hotel California" 101055620#1039
CustREMI, "Lose Sleep"  628041820#31


Standings are as follows. Lat still holding onto the lead, but DI's superb round was second to break 300.
Round:123456789101112Total
Arth4747453234364100000282
AQB3455281425502800000234
Pants4757354943213800000290
Zaros3921495037344600000276
Drew4244313248103400000241
Gerbig2515285216573800000231
DI3830294050566300000306
SJ3727284342413200000250
Lat3655683141513900000321
Cust4539494754343100000299

Comments and round 8 - cover songs coming soon.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 17, 2017, 07:59:02 PM
I cranked up this round in my office in the presence of one of my favorite students, Johnny Bravo, a pianist/composer who loves jazz and electronica, and who was happy to contribute his comments.  (We talk about music a lot, even though I can’t understand a lot of what he says; he’s far more knowledgeable than I am.)  That was fun.  :)

I was already familiar with five of the nine tunes, which might be a record for Forumvision…?  Heard some stuff I want to buy, which makes me happy.  That’s what I like best about Forumvision.

The Cat Empire, “Brighter Than Gold”  10
Oh, how I dig this.  I was digging it much and then the horns came in and the deal was sealed.  I do love me some horns.  Party music!  Johnny Bravo was slightly baffled by the slower sections.  This one’s on my “buy” list.

Lissie, “The Habit”  8
Ridiculously catchy song about a devastating subject.  Singing along, or at least humming along, by the second go-round.  On the “buy” list.

Fishbone, “Party at Ground Zero”  6
Dagnabbit, what is that tune they’re quoting right at the very beginning?!  It’s so familiar.  Neither Johnny Bravo nor I could identify it immediately, although he said later, “They’re quoting it, and then, like, expanding on it.”  I don’t know how I’ve managed not to own this song already, because it is all the awesome.  Thanks for reminding me of the glory that is Fishbone, forum goober.  Also, I had to explain to Johnny Bravo that the term “ground zero” far predates September 11, 2001; that was his only reference for it.  Play it, boy wonder!

Jet, “Are You Gonna Be My Girl”  5
Nothing fancy, just some grubby, straightforward rock without sanding off the rough edges.  Gonna buy this too.

Bowling for Soup, “1985”  4
This song is very silly.  That’s not a bad thing.  It’s fun and catchy with a goofy singalong chorus.  It feels like the band was having a whole lot of fun.

Tombstone da Deadman, “My Stand”  3
Johnny Bravo and I really enjoyed the piano.  I did enjoy the rap; there’s just something about the rhythm of most rap that lets my mind wander away from the lyrics…which I think is exactly the wrong response.
AQB:  “Better than the more well-known skeptical rapper.”
Johnny Bravo:  “Who’s that?”
AQB:  “Baba Brinkman.”
Johnny Bravo:  “Not that well-known.”

REMI, “Lose Sleep”  2
Faded into the background quickly…I was bobbing my head but not really paying attention.  Johnny Bravo turned his attention back to his homework.  This wouldn’t make me lose sleep.

Eagles, “Hotel California”  1
A classic.  Overplayed, but a good song that I do like.  However, I don’t need to hear it very often these days.  Skipped over it in the playlist after two listens.  Johnny Bravo didn’t much dig it.

Michael Jackson, “Rock With You”  0
Johnny Bravo was deeply disappointed in me for not liking this song.  As noted over in the Music subforum, I understand and appreciate the impact and importance of Michael Jackson’s solo oeuvre; I just don’t enjoy listening to it.  Sorry, PANTS!
AQB:  “I dunno, this is…soft pop…easy listening.”
Johnny Bravo:  “Oh wow, listen to that synth-flute solo.”


Icky Blossoms, “Stark Weather”
A sweet song about devotion and spree killing; what’s not to love?  Johnny Bravo was slightly alarmed when I started singing along with the rather startling opening line.  Honestly, when I first heard this, I had a similar “wait, what?” reaction.  But it stuck to me.


0 - Party at Ground Zero - Fishbone: If you're going to cover such a well known melody, you need to make it interesting.  I mean... Oh it's just the opening.  Is this some jam fest mash-up... Oh it is.  I hate those.  And this is not proving to be the exception to the rule.  Forcing myself to listen to the whole thing.

1 - Michael Jackson - Rock With You: Disco rock from Michael Jackson!  Okay...  Yeah, this is one of his less popular songs for a reason.  It combines not introducing me to anything new with not being something I particularly like, hence the low score.

2 - Bowling For Soup - 1985: Nostalgia pop-rock about the 80s, but from back before 80s nostalgia was big.  Maybe it started the trend?  Either way, I remember when this song came out, which is ironic since it's so forgettable.

3 - Icky Blossoms - Stark Weather: Well that was dark.

4 - REMI - Lose Sleep: Decent, lyrically deep, but not musically.

5 - Eagles - Hotel California: Overplayed song with decent music, but nonsensical lyrics.  Okay.

6 - Jet - Are You Gonna Be My Girl: Rather than being rock from the late 70s or early 80s (or making direct references to it) this song merely embodies that style.  We sure this wasn't a themed round?  Either way, it's a good song.

8 - The Cat Empire - Brighter Than Gold: My wife has this song on rotation in one of her playlists.  It's a good song, so I understand why, though a tad repetitive.

10 - Lissie - The Habit: Oh yes.  I am typically turned off by a heavy repeating down beat (so over done), but there's enough tempo changes (and even some changes in dynamics, which are sorely lacking in popish music).  Enjoyed this.

Here are the scores for round 7

0- Icky Blossoms
The only song i really didnt like. The energy was too low, the lyrics too strange, and the bass line was a detriment to the song, being more distracting and overbearing than anything

1- Remi- Lose Sleep
I didnt dislike this song, I just felt neutral to it. It seems to be speaking to a different person than me, because I saw no appeal in it.

2- The Cat Empire- Brighter than Gold
Not a bad song, just not as good as the others submitted. The chorus seemed a little muted and holding back

3- Tombstone da Deadman- My stand
Seems to be filled with a lot of passion and justified anger. BUT it seems like someone took a powerpoint and made it into a rap, cant shake that impression.

4- Micheal Jackson- Rock with you
Before my time mebey? Seems like a B-side filler song. Not bad, pretty catchy, just not for me

5- Party at ground Zero- Fishbone
Reminds me of Reel Big Fish type songs, horns, high energy, bouncy lyrics, its like pop-punk california music. Is that a genre?

6- Hotel California
One of the first songs I learned on guitar, nostaliga <3

8- Lissie- The Habit
A nice little rocky toe tapper with a great lead singer. I can imagine boogying to this song while doing housework

10-Jet- Are you going to be my girl     
Despite how basic and uninspired the lyrics are, there is something so gutteral and primal about the song, I just cant help but love it everyime I hear it

I didn't hate any of these songs, so apologies to those I ranked low: they aren't terrible, I just like all the other songs better....


Party at Ground Zero  --  Fishbone  --  10

WHAT OMG SOMEBODY SUBMIT FISHBONE?? YES! I LOVE YOU! Gee, I wonder where Reel Big Fish got their "hit sound" from? YAY I LOVE THIS AND I LOVE YOU, SUBMITTER

REMI  --  Lose Sleep  --  8

Ah. Yeah. Dig it. I like this. My primary concern with rapped lyrics is the voice of the rapper, and I really like his. (further along) Yeah! I like this! There's more than just the voice... a pleasing, catchy harmonic rhythm... some artful lyrics.

Bowling for Soup - 1985  --  6

Oh damn, holy nostalgia! I grew up in the Dallas suburbs in the 90s, and Bowling for Soup (being from the area) was played on the local radio like a motherfucker. I didn't know anybody outside of DFW knew of them! Nice little 90s alt-rock tune here.

Tombstone da Deadman - My Stand  --  5

Oh nice, more rap, and I again really like his voice. Ooooh and it's skeptic-themed! I kinda want to deduct points for pandering, but I won't because it's good. Dammit, this guy needs a producer... I LOVE his voice, and his rhymes and lyrics engage me... but there's just not much there beyond that... like maybe this guy did all this on a casio in his bedroom, which is super cool, but I am left wondering what it could be.

Michael Jackson  --  Rock With You  --  4

Man, playing the King of Pop is almost cheating...  ;)  It's a good song... has some "smooth jazz" motives and colors that bug me a little, but still very entertaining.

Jet  --  Are You Gonna Be My Girl  --  3

Is there a more recent popular cover of this? I have definitely heard the song, but I feel like it wasn't exactly what I'm hearing here... though I do kinda like what I'm hearing here more than my memory of the song.

Eagles  --  Hotel California  --  2
 
My problem with this song is that I like almost every cover I've ever heard more than I like the original. I figure this means that the original song is great, just--for my taste--written for the wrong band. Listening to the original a few times, I still feel this way...

Icky Blossoms - Stark Weather  -- 1

I like the bass line. Everything else--and I mean everything--sounds like it was created by a moderately talented 22 year old with a bunch of weed and some time on their hands.

Lissie  --  The Habit  --  0

Nice voice, but right off the bat, way too much autotune. Autotune is cool as an effect sometimes, but it makes a singer sound like shit when used for pitch correction. Either she's terrible live and needs it, or she doesn't need it and has a terrible producer.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 7 - Open Round! Bring in the funk.
Post by: HighPockets on March 17, 2017, 08:03:26 PM
MJ Rock with you - Ok if I dont score high with this one I dont know what will please you people :)

10 Party at ground zero - I have always loved dancing to this song. Its not my favorite ska track but its certainly in my top 10 Ska pics list

8 The cat empire: Brighter than gold- Love those horns

6 Tombstone da Deadman - My Stand. Wow Cali Compton rap about skepticism wow, its not a great hiphop track but im really impressed with the content, this takes balls in that genre

5 Icky blossoms stark weather.  I like the groove

4 Jet: are you gonna be my girl : strip club track I played a million times, I still like it, lots of energy

3 Bowling for soup 1985- Meh this whole era of music was disappointing to me and if you want to sing about 1985 you should sound like a song from 1985 this is 2000s crap that is annoying to me but still catchy enough to play for the right crowd

2 Remmi lose sleep: still not sure about this one, I need a 3rd listen

1 Lissie habbit - I liked it at first but at with a second listen i think its not so good

0 Hotel California “I hate the fucking eagles, man!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1WJqKWqUHQ

ROUND 7

Bowling for Soup - 1985: 4. Meh. It's okay, but it's basically the same song as Stacey's Mom. I think that's Stacey's Mom on the car, too.

Jet - Are You Gonna Be My Girl: 1. I've never much liked this song. And I hear it a lot. I don't really need to hear it again to give it a score.

Eagles - Hotel California: 10. This video is unavailable. But again, I know this song well enough that I don't need to hear it to give it a score. This has a huge stack of nostalgia value for me.

The Cat Empire - Brighter Than Gold: 8. This was okay. I enjoyed it more than I thought I was going to at the beginning. The chorus didn't seem to fit in with the verse, but they made it work.

Icky Blossoms - Stark Weather: 3. Not that great. If you're going to drone, you really need to at least try to make it interesting.

Lissie - The Habit: Mine. I found this one on Pandora. I like its beat and I like her voice.

REMI - Lose Sleep: 6. I don't know why hip hop artists need to randomly vocalise before the song actually starts. I guess it's a genre thing. This wasn't bad. I'm not the biggest fan of hip hop though.

Michael Jackson - Rock With You: 5. Again, this song is so well-known that I don't even need to listen to it. I'm not a fan of his earlier work - the soul/funk/motown sound does not go well with me.

Fishbone - Party At Ground Zero: 0. I tried to like this. I really did. I even listened to the whole thing. But no. Sorry. It was awful.

Tombstone da Deadman - My Stand: 2. Pandering.


10 - Are You Gonna Be My Girl - That's what I'm talking about.
8 - Brighter Than Gold - I quite liked the verses, but the chorus was jarringly bright and did not work well with it.
6 - 1985 - I don’t know why I like it so much, but I do.
5 - Stark Weather - I did not want to like this song, but I couldn't turn away.
4  - Rock with You - Objectively good, but not my favorite of his.  His earlier or later work would have scored better.
3 - Party at Ground Zero - I liked parts of it, but as a whole it felt like a mashup of three songs that didn't quite mesh.  I have a feeling that a really good 3-minute song could have been extracted from it by a good producer.
2 - My Stand - a little on the nose for my taste.
1 - The Habit - It's not bad, really, just...boring.  It's a shame, because I quite like the singer's voice.
0 - Lose Sleep - The beat is annoying, rhymes mediocre.

As I said in the thread before, there are no bad songs in this group, and I wish I could give all of them at least a 3.

"The Eagles - Hotel California: 00 - Sorry, but I can't. There are deeper cuts from them that are 1k x better in their sleep.

"
"Lissie - The Habit: 02 - Interesting, but that verse melody is ripped from ""I only wanna be with you"", and that was distracting as fuck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5x2vIdCBSA

"
"Bowling For Soup - 1985: 03 - Not bad, but several iterations through the photocopy machine to be something amazing.

"
"Icky Blossoms - Stark Weather: 01 - Interesting, but kinda bland.

"
"Michael Jackson - Rock With You: 04 - Not his best, and probably the worst of his best album.  Still it's a great song.  But overplayed.  Deserves a spot in the pantheon, get middle marks because I have a bias for original songs.

"
"Jet - Are You Gonna Be My Girl: 05 - It's a rippin tune.  It was a minor hit - so -pts for that.

"
"Tombstone da Deadman - My Stand: 06 - I like his flow.  Even tho it was herky jerky and off beat.  It seemed to fit the message - not marching to the standard rhythm.  I would have like some more variety in the background music tho.  He just sampled the one riff.

"
"REMI - Lose Sleep: 08 - Generic ""Rap then sing"" Neo Soul.  But very competent.  I enjoy rap when it is witty, deft (has flow), or referential (which really combines the former, maybe).  But this song may have opened up a new avenue of appreciation - he told a compelling story from a perspective I had not experienced.

"
"The Cat Empire - Brighter Than Gold: 10 - That was hoppin'.  Loved the horn, and the polyrhythms.  Hadn't heard it before either so plusses there from me.

"
"Party at Ground Zero - Fishbone: Mine - Fishbone are something else - this heady mix of punk, ska, and dirty funk. If you appreciate their irreverence watch the culture clash with Don Cornelius here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20-QoFoP1SI

"
: overall - Only one bummer in there, but only one real standout as well, IMHO. 
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: HighPockets on March 17, 2017, 08:39:57 PM

https://youtu.be/HB8WHA3WWz0

https://youtu.be/6ar2VHW1i2w

https://youtu.be/tnZtVY6Lu5U

https://youtu.be/X9jXnZS3ouU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDDaqNgdIXM&t=8s

https://youtu.be/h19GyB11UNI

https://youtu.be/eRtDImn9fLc

https://youtu.be/Jsc9mUOyK8c

https://youtu.be/vt1Pwfnh5pc

https://youtu.be/SdjE_A7wb7E
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: The Latinist on March 17, 2017, 09:10:01 PM
Wait...we don't get the original versions for comparison's sake?  I don't think I can judge a cover without knowing the original, and I have no idea what most of these are covering.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: PANTS! on March 17, 2017, 09:26:57 PM
Nevermind

EDIT:Its been fixed.  Thanks Mod.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: PANTS! on March 17, 2017, 09:49:07 PM
Wait...we don't get the original versions for comparison's sake?  I don't think I can judge a cover without knowing the original, and I have no idea what most of these are covering.

In order (This is off the top of my head, so I might be wrong)

The Kinks
Al Green
David Bowie
Suicidal Tendancies
The Disney movie Hercules
Arcade Fire
Greatful Dead
Howard Jones
Nine Inch Nails
Coldplay
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: HighPockets on March 17, 2017, 10:03:32 PM
Thanks Pants!

I will say that not everybody sent in the actual original they were referencing. But I think it's fair to say that, even if you were referencing a covering of a cover, or covering an original that had been covered already you can rate the song on it's own merit. The source of the submission is that it's a cover song, the song itself is what is being evaluated.

I'm sure not everyone necessarily saw it that way but it might be the best path for this round.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Andrew Clunn on March 17, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
God damn.  This is an awesome round.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Zaros on March 18, 2017, 03:29:16 AM
i like how gerbig and i not only traded 10's but also gave the song that won it's lowest scores.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Gerbig on March 18, 2017, 07:07:11 AM
This is getting spooky Zaros 😅
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: The Latinist on March 18, 2017, 07:28:39 AM
It's my understanding, HighPockets, that the criteria on which we judge a song are entirely up to us.   For me, the merit of a cover rests in large part in its ability to transform a song into something new.  A note-for-note reproduction of another artist's song does not, in my opinion, possess significant merit of its own.  Others can, of course, judge by their own criteria.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Andrew Clunn on March 18, 2017, 01:22:40 PM
(http://s3.crackedcdn.com/articleimages/ob/coversIIC.jpg)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on March 18, 2017, 01:33:49 PM
It's my understanding, HighPockets, that the criteria on which we judge a song are entirely up to us.   For me, the merit of a cover rests in large part in its ability to transform a song into something new.  A note-for-note reproduction of another artist's song does not, in my opinion, possess significant merit of its own.  Others can, of course, judge by their own criteria.

I love that we're all judging by our own metrics: seeing what people value in their musical tastes is a large part of the fun for me.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Andrew Clunn on March 20, 2017, 04:17:14 PM
I will be shocked if a particular song does not win.  It should win, and anyone other than the person who submitted it who does not give it a 10 score has horrible taste.  I am not referring to my submission.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: The Latinist on March 20, 2017, 07:11:15 PM
I have to relisten to them all, but I have to say that this is a strong round.  Only one clunker, though there are several that I didn't think did anything interesting.  I'm a sucker for genre-bending in a cover, I realize.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Gerbig on March 20, 2017, 07:30:43 PM
That willie nelson song was so touching.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Morvis13 on March 20, 2017, 09:18:11 PM
Here this is for Zaros. He must listen to the whole thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqa-HYihaZo
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Zaros on March 20, 2017, 09:19:11 PM
why tho
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: arthwollipot on March 20, 2017, 10:18:51 PM
It's my understanding, HighPockets, that the criteria on which we judge a song are entirely up to us.   For me, the merit of a cover rests in large part in its ability to transform a song into something new.  A note-for-note reproduction of another artist's song does not, in my opinion, possess significant merit of its own.  Others can, of course, judge by their own criteria.

It is certainly the case that you are free to judge a song according to your own criteria, and what I'm about to say should in no way be taken as criticism.

I wouldn't want to do it your way. Tying a cover to its original pre-loads me with expectations that may be unwarranted. If I already know the original, I can't avoid this. But if I don't, then I'll be approaching the cover as an entirely new song and judging it on its merits alone. I don't expect that a piece of art will require knowledge of other pieces of art before it can be appreciated for itself. Of course I recognise that this goes on all the time, but I try to ignore it as best I can.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: The Latinist on March 20, 2017, 10:53:13 PM
There are, in my experience, two diametrically opposed schools of thought in art appreciation.  One school holds that a piece of art is best appreciated by understanding as much as possible about the social, artistic, political, etc. context in which that art work was created.  For this school the intention of the artist is paramount.  The other school believes that a work of art is best appreciated almost de novo, without regard to such matters and indeed often completely rejecting such matters as unimportant.  For this latter school, the subjective experience of the observer is paramount.

In my experience, members of each school invariably believe that their way of appreciating art is the only valid way of doing so, and believe that members of the other school are wholly lacking in the ability truly to appreciate any work of art.  Between these two schools there can be no agreement because they are fundamentally opposed.  In my experience, it is best to agree to disagree.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: arthwollipot on March 20, 2017, 11:30:39 PM
Indeed. Though I doubt pithy classification schemes that pigeonhole a person into only one of two binary categories, I largely agree with you, and hereby publicly identify myself as belonging to the latter of your two schools of thought. However, I do have to take minor exception with your last statement - that the two schools "invariably" believe that the other is worthless. At least, as far as it pertains to me and my comment above. Again, this should be taken as exploration and elaboration of your stated premise rather than disagreement with it.

The people who belong to the former school - the "scholars", if you will - are those who have deliberately expended some time and effort in learning the social, artistic, political, etc. context in which the art was created. You're not born with that knowledge. Those who have not deliberately chosen to expend that time and effort fall into the latter school - the "appreciators" - by default. They approach the art naked, unencumbered. But also without the tools to appreciate some of the deeper aspects of art. Naturally they will miss some of the nuance that is available to the scholars.

For me, there is just too much art for me to have ever studied much of it in detail. Especially music. Having been a jazz musician in my youth, I have a quite deep understanding about the theory and practice of jazz, for example. But I do not have the same depth of knowledge of metal, because I have never spent much time studying it. I can't study everything. No-one can.

So when I listen to new music, I try to react on a purely aesthetic level at first. Sometimes, my enjoyment of a thing will warrant my deciding to spend some more effort understanding it in context. If I think it's good enough to trigger some intellectual motivation. Otherwise, I've got other things to spend my intellectual capital on.

Certainly there are people whom your statement does describe, and I in no way want to dispute that. But I thought it might be helpful to put some of my thoughts on the subject into the open.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: HighPockets on March 21, 2017, 11:03:29 AM
why tho

Clearly, Morvis is unhappy that he didn't sign up to play this game, and is only sunday morning quarterbacking from the sidelines.

I will be shocked if a particular song does not win.  It should win, and anyone other than the person who submitted it who does not give it a 10 score has horrible taste.  I am not referring to my submission.

Calling Gerbig and Zaros Please come to the voting station, Your attention is needed in a serious matter.

...
...

I love it that you guys can discuss the merits of a cover song with such passion. (are you high?)

I remember hearing "Spirit in the sky" by Doctor and the Medics at a dance club in college and thinking that it was just an awesome song, it was probably three years later that I found out that it was a cover of Norman Greenbaum. The fact that the original was released in 1969 fell perfectly into a realm of music that I would have no reference to for many years. I just appreciated the song for what it was. And all things considered I like the doctors version better to thins day. It would have been my submission this round.
I can't remember the song, but a guy across the hall from me in the dorm was playing a song and he was going on about the great drum beat, he thought it was so cool, and after if was over I asked him if he had hear this tune, and I put on Bow Wow Wow's "I want candy" the look on his face was priceless, the "wait this isn't original? look. DI is right, we all come to a specific song with our own personal experiences and that is why we have such a great time discussing this music.

Don't forget to get your votes in. :)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Simon Jester on March 21, 2017, 12:23:21 PM
I will be shocked if a particular song does not win.  It should win, and anyone other than the person who submitted it who does not give it a 10 score has horrible taste.  I am not referring to my submission.

This is interesting to me because I think this could be my submission although there is one another submission that could equally fit the bill and probably the one you are talking about but for my own reasons would not win above my selection. Then there is yet another submission that means so much to me personally that I cant help but put it above my own even though it is not as good musically as the other two. I almost submitted it myself but didn't because i think the rest of you will score it low. Whomever did submit the one I like personally wins the game as far as I am concerned.

There are, in my experience, two diametrically opposed schools of thought in art appreciation.  One school holds that a piece of art is best appreciated by understanding as much as possible about the social, artistic, political, etc. context in which that art work was created.  For this school the intention of the artist is paramount.  The other school believes that a work of art is best appreciated almost de novo, without regard to such matters and indeed often completely rejecting such matters as unimportant.  For this latter school, the subjective experience of the observer is paramount.

In my experience, members of each school invariably believe that their way of appreciating art is the only valid way of doing so, and believe that members of the other school are wholly lacking in the ability truly to appreciate any work of art.  Between these two schools there can be no agreement because they are fundamentally opposed.  In my experience, it is best to agree to disagree.

I think when referring to music there is a third school of thought. I am a DJ and music is a tool, the way that I play it and the order in which I play it effects a room full of people regardless of how artistically good a song is. I Usually (not always) judge music based on how it will effect OTHER people. Im not sure if this applies to all art (perhaps an art dealer or museum curator?) I dont know.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on March 21, 2017, 12:40:17 PM
There are, in my experience, two diametrically opposed schools of thought in art appreciation.  One school holds that a piece of art is best appreciated by understanding as much as possible about the social, artistic, political, etc. context in which that art work was created.  For this school the intention of the artist is paramount.  The other school believes that a work of art is best appreciated almost de novo, without regard to such matters and indeed often completely rejecting such matters as unimportant.  For this latter school, the subjective experience of the observer is paramount.

In my experience, members of each school invariably believe that their way of appreciating art is the only valid way of doing so, and believe that members of the other school are wholly lacking in the ability truly to appreciate any work of art.  Between these two schools there can be no agreement because they are fundamentally opposed.  In my experience, it is best to agree to disagree.

In my experience, anybody who says either extreme is true is a fool. Each instance of art is unique, and can be appreciated and understood in many ways--including both the ways in which the artist intended, as well as those in which they did not. Saying that the context and intention of the art is irrelevant is just as wrong as saying that the context and intention is paramount; either may be true, both may be false, and I'd guess that usually there exists a balance between the two.

Professing that there exists "the valid way" to consume art is nothing more than egoism.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: The Latinist on March 21, 2017, 12:59:37 PM
There is one cover in here that is absolutely beautiful, but which changes the lyric in a subtle but incredibly important way which may not have seemed important to the covering artist but which I think betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the song.  I will note that I suspected the lyric had been changed before I listened to the original because the lyric just didn't make sense as it was.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Andrew Clunn on March 21, 2017, 01:14:16 PM
There is one cover in here that is absolutely beautiful, but which changes the lyric in a subtle but incredibly important way which may not have seemed important to the covering artist but which I think betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the song.  I will note that I suspected the lyric had been changed before I listened to the original because the lyric just didn't make sense as it was.

I so want to respond to this, but I don't want to discuss any of these songs specifically pre judgement.  I actually wouldn't mind a brief delay between the end of this round and the posting of the next.  I absolutely loved some of these and really enjoyed this round.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: The Latinist on March 21, 2017, 02:55:45 PM
I realize that my last post could sound like lyrical purism, so I wanted to say that I am not opposed to lyrical changes in covers in principle, only to specific changes that I feel are changes for the worse.  I don't find the changes to the lyrics of Institutionalized, for example, a major issue despite their being much more extensive than the song I wrote about.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Andrew Clunn on March 21, 2017, 03:02:51 PM
A few of the songs changed the tone of the songs they covered.  I'm not opposed to that so long as they weren't clearly attempting to recreate the feeling of the previous... god damn it, I can't discuss this well in a abstract way that doesn't touch on examples...
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on March 21, 2017, 03:37:43 PM
Yeah, this should be a fun discussion once the scores come out.

I intend to have mine in tonight, depending on how well this date goes.

In early tonight: went badly
In late tonight: went well
Not in tonight:  :pervert:
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: HighPockets on March 21, 2017, 05:26:35 PM
Start hounding Zaros right now, and I'll give you all some time to discuss after the votes are in.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Gerbig on March 21, 2017, 06:34:38 PM
Didnt i send my votes in already?
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: HighPockets on March 21, 2017, 07:17:45 PM
Didnt i send my votes in already?

Yeah, you did. I'm just saying that Zaros is ALLWAYS last to submit scores. So if you start hounding him now he might actually get them in before AQB this time.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: The Latinist on March 21, 2017, 07:26:06 PM
I'm going to need a couple of days.  This is a tough round and requires additional listening.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Gerbig on March 21, 2017, 07:32:47 PM
Thats something that would be really useful on this forum. The ability to tag someone and have them get a notification to go to the tagged post.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Zaros on March 21, 2017, 08:05:36 PM
dont tempt me to continue to be last
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Morvis13 on March 21, 2017, 09:49:44 PM
Oops wrong thread. ignore me like i do this thread.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on March 22, 2017, 01:35:50 AM
Went regular well.  :-*

I'm gonna drink some four loko, kill some pokemon, then snobbishly rate your musical choices.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on March 22, 2017, 01:41:42 AM
After preliminary listen through:

Nothing I hated, I agree with those above--strong round!

One song that I would have said didn't need to be covered, and yet am really glad it did.

Two covers which I've always thought were the originals.

One song that I would have said shouldn't be covered by the artist who did, and yet I'm really glad they did.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: arthwollipot on March 22, 2017, 03:12:24 AM
I think when referring to music there is a third school of thought. I am a DJ and music is a tool, the way that I play it and the order in which I play it effects a room full of people regardless of how artistically good a song is. I Usually (not always) judge music based on how it will effect OTHER people. Im not sure if this applies to all art (perhaps an art dealer or museum curator?) I dont know.

I think that's a really good point, and one that I haven't thought about in a very long time. All performers have this approach to a certain extent - otherwise they're not likely to be good performers.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: arthwollipot on March 22, 2017, 04:17:28 AM
I'll try to get to this tomorrow if I can. I just had to do another round over at The Other Place, and it was pretty soul-destroyingly bad, so I need to take a few minutes.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: HighPockets on March 26, 2017, 11:05:30 AM
I've only got five sets of votes in. Ya all know who you are.



Zaros.


(FTR, AQB already has hers in. congrats!)
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: The Latinist on March 26, 2017, 11:18:12 AM
I'll get mine in soon.  I've been very busy with renovations and haven't had time to write them up.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: HighPockets on March 26, 2017, 11:35:10 AM
There's no better thing than listening to cover songs while installing a wax ring and toilet bowl. Just wash your hands before voting. ew.  ;D
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: The Latinist on March 26, 2017, 01:06:57 PM
Listening isn't the problem.  I've been listening.  It's writing them up.  That said, I should be able to finish it up tonight.
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: Drunken Idaho on March 26, 2017, 02:40:49 PM
Mine were in early for once!
Title: Re: SGU Forumvision 2017! Round 8 - Covers, songs the way they were meant to be.
Post by: arthwollipot on March 26, 2017, 11:04:47 PM
I'll try to get to this tomorrow if I can. I just had to do another round over at The Other Place, and it was pretty soul-destroyingly bad, so I need to take a few minutes.

I didn't get to it tomorrow, but I did get to it today.

Interesting and fun round. I enjoyed most of the tracks except for one which I just couldn't listen to (sorry, had to skip it) and two that were so completely uninteresting that I couldn't tell you anything about them. All the others were great, and I had a great deal of trouble putting them into their proper order.