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Title: SGU 24
Post by: Jay on June 10, 2011, 01:26:48 PM
Guys,  We have a live 24 hour SGU event happening on September 23-24.  It will have audio and video live streaming.  We are in early production right now with tons of ideas in the mix.  Mixed in with the typical SGU content there will be a story-line that plays itself out over the course of the show.  I cant reveal too much of the details of the story-line but there is so much time to fill I'd love to hear any ideas or comments you have.

http://theness.com/roguesgallery/index.php/events/announcement-sgu-24-show/ (http://theness.com/roguesgallery/index.php/events/announcement-sgu-24-show/)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on June 10, 2011, 01:47:39 PM
A sleep deprived math quiz show: at random times after the 18th hour throw out simple math problems and see who can answer it the fastest.
Coffee drinking contest: which Rogue can consume the most caffeine without side effects.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: amysrevenge on June 10, 2011, 02:45:02 PM
Nothing specific, but I advise to have some material held in reserve to fill dead zones.

I listen to a podcast in a different genre, and they did a 24-hour (ended up being 28 hours) show last summer.  There is something they ended up calling "The Black Hour" in the middle where things went WAAAAAAY off-course for a time.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Moloch on June 12, 2011, 05:56:35 AM
How awesome would it be if you ran quick RPG session, perhaps DnD or Star Trek!? Even if you guys are rusty on the DnD rules I'm sure you must have a friend who still plays that could help out (although I always imagined Steve DM'ing). I would love to see Rebecca playing DnD, hilarity would be guaranteed. My dream would be Phil Plait as DM for a Star Trek roleplaying game session.

Just a quick pre-written module or maybe the DM could whip up a game with a skeptical bent, the heroic 'Rogues' fighting the disgusting monster "Salivier Brown?"

please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please  please please please please  :D
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Sordid on June 12, 2011, 06:15:35 AM
Phil Plait as DM for a Star Trek roleplaying game session.

Oh hell yes. Especially if he injects some actual science into this purported science fiction.

"No, you can't do that... Space doesn't work that way... Saturn's rings don't have a magnetic field... Due to relativistic time dilation your quick trip to the nearest planet to sell your loot took seven hundred years..."
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Karyn on June 12, 2011, 12:45:31 PM
Perhaps you should have a doctor on hand, a neurologist perhaps, just to make sure none of you suffer brain damage.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DRmeg378 on June 12, 2011, 02:37:48 PM
I would have a series of clips ready to go in case of emergency, or when you guys need to take a break. In fact, there should be buttons with pre-recorded messages, and when one of you leaves to do whatever, you can still be part of the conversation (Bob's should say "we should invest millions and millions on that").
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on June 12, 2011, 02:44:54 PM
I would have a series of clips ready to go in case of emergency, or when you guys need to take a break. In fact, there should be buttons with pre-recorded messages, and when one of you leaves to do whatever, you can still be part of the conversation (Bob's should say "we should invest millions and millions on that").

Billions!!!

Turn in your nerd badge!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DRmeg378 on June 12, 2011, 02:48:11 PM
I would have a series of clips ready to go in case of emergency, or when you guys need to take a break. In fact, there should be buttons with pre-recorded messages, and when one of you leaves to do whatever, you can still be part of the conversation (Bob's should say "we should invest millions and millions on that").

Billions!!!

Turn in your nerd badge!

 :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Silly Llama on June 12, 2011, 09:52:27 PM
An impromptu five minute interview with a randomly selected listener/viewer could be funny.  Have people who want to be considered and have the technology to participate submit their names then choose 3-5 of them at random and call them during the show.  People would have to be ready with Skype logged on and wouldn't know who was getting called until it started ringing.

A less serious but potentially hilarious activity would be to prank call various pseudoscience and woo organizations.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: David E. on June 12, 2011, 10:48:33 PM
So which of you will die at Rebecca's hands first?

My bet is Bob.  I know Jay seems the likeliest target, but I think come hour oh 16, Bob will make some high end Astronomy reference mixed with a really bad Star Trek joke and out comes the Meat Cleaver. 



Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on June 12, 2011, 11:18:18 PM
There's only one thing I know which can get you guys through this: extended RPGing!!! GMed by listeners! By which I mean me! Call of Cthulhu! Loud noises!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: amysrevenge on June 13, 2011, 11:50:41 AM
I think people are mostly joking, but I've watched live RPGing before and when you're not participating it is DULL.

Cropped and edited RPGing would definitely be enjoyable, but real-time?  Ugh.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Belgarath on June 13, 2011, 12:16:39 PM
I absolutely think you should do some short interviews with your forum members.

I'll happily come on sometime and talk about airplanes if you want.  There are tons of people who have interesting jobs, or other areas of expertise.

Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Silly Llama on June 13, 2011, 03:05:10 PM
I absolutely think you should do some short interviews with your forum members.

I'll happily come on sometime and talk about airplanes if you want.  There are tons of people who have interesting jobs, or other areas of expertise.

Targeted interviews would be more interesting, random would be more amusing (IMHO).  I guess it depends on what you're going for, which might depend on the hour.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: filip on June 15, 2011, 01:26:06 PM
How about a segment where they open letters from the fans.
Who knows what amazing crap they might find in there.  :D
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on June 15, 2011, 01:47:09 PM
I think people are mostly joking, but I've watched live RPGing before and when you're not participating it is DULL.
Dull....ly awesome!!!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: barocon on June 16, 2011, 09:46:08 AM
Some suggestions:

- I have tried XSplit (http://www.xsplit.com/) and it's a nice and somewhat easy software for streaming. You can use it to stream to all popular stream providers. As for the stream providers, one of my favorites is Justin.tv (http://www.justin.tv) since it allows viewers to choose the quality of the stream.

- If someone installs Minecraft on the streaming computer then perhaps the Rogues could stream a tour of the SGU server.

- Skype is probably the easiest way to handle interviews. Perhaps you could get some celebrity skeptics to join Skype briefly.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Gerbig on June 16, 2011, 05:06:45 PM
Firstly, I think all of the rouges should take a hefty dose of homeopathic sleeping pills on a regular basis, ya know, to keep them awake

second, A round of scientific trivia at the top of every hour, with the loser of these rounds being humiliated in some fashion at the end of the 24

third, A seance should be held, invite a true believer to conduct it, along with astrological readings, fung shue experts etc, and debate them about the legitimacy of their practice
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Stovetop32 on June 17, 2011, 09:15:13 AM
second, A round of scientific trivia at the top of every hour, with the loser of these rounds being humiliated in some fashion at the end of the 24


I was thinking something along these lines.  There should be some sort of repeated test (sequential memory game or the like) to monitor the panel members' alertness.  Could be funny to see things slide.

How about a test/comparison of popular stimulants or wives-tale methods for staying awake?  Each panelist could try a different method, and one could serve as a control.  (Not really scientific, but it could be fun.)  Maybe this could just be a topic for discussion if the whole guinea pig angle doesn't pan out  ;)



Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: filip on June 17, 2011, 10:50:29 AM
I think brownies need to be involved.  :P
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: lukebourassa on June 17, 2011, 11:35:58 AM
I suggest locking one Rogue in a small room after administering mescaline, and check-in on him/her every 2 hours.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Unlimited on June 17, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
Cliche! But you could read some interesting (ie hilarious) blogs and tweets by some not so skeptical people. I'm sure there are plenty of celebs gawking at the gills to find a few funny things.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: superdave on June 17, 2011, 11:57:27 AM
Read any post on age of autism outloud and see who can go the longest before uttering an expletive.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Straws Pulled At Random on June 17, 2011, 10:35:48 PM
A less serious but potentially hilarious activity would be to prank call various pseudoscience and woo organizations.

Yes! They can use my Richard Dawkins soundboard and prank various religious institutions.

http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,35919.0.html (http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,35919.0.html)

Also, I think there should be a rule that Jay has to lick Steven's face every time Steven says the word "absolutely".
Title: Name of SGU 24
Post by: marcparis on June 20, 2011, 06:47:00 AM
My suggestion for name:
"The Skeptics' Guide to Steve's Rumpus Room"
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: RKN on June 20, 2011, 02:55:39 PM
Your 24 hours of live streaming sounds awesome, still you can't beat Norwegian televisions 134 hours live broadcast from the Hurtigruten boat (ongoing now!):
 
http://www.visitnorway.com/en/External-content/Hurtigruten-minute-by-minute/ (http://www.visitnorway.com/en/External-content/Hurtigruten-minute-by-minute/)

Nice and relaxing, and kind of addictive (even if it is rather boring).
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: uolj on June 20, 2011, 05:55:16 PM
If you do science or fiction in the early part of the show you should do it again 20 hours later with the same three or four topics and tiny changes made to each (or no changes depending on how tired everybody is).

Then again, it would work better if only Steve was aware that it was going to happen that way, so I might have just ruined it by tipping off Jay and any other rogue reading this. Doh!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: filip on June 20, 2011, 06:22:56 PM
How about a skeptical sound or quote every time the hand strikes 12.


Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Sordid on June 20, 2011, 06:29:33 PM
If you do science or fiction in the early part of the show you should do it again 20 hours later with the same three or four topics and tiny changes made to each (or no changes depending on how tired everybody is).

Then again, it would work better if only Steve was aware that it was going to happen that way, so I might have just ruined it by tipping off Jay and any other rogue reading this. Doh!

More generally, some kind of task to demonstrate the effects of tiredness on mental ability would definitely be interesting.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: amysrevenge on June 20, 2011, 07:04:53 PM
If you do science or fiction in the early part of the show you should do it again 20 hours later with the same three or four topics and tiny changes made to each (or no changes depending on how tired everybody is).

Then again, it would work better if only Steve was aware that it was going to happen that way, so I might have just ruined it by tipping off Jay and any other rogue reading this. Doh!

I suppose, if it was possible, it would be nice to have all of the regular segments (WTN, SoF, etc.) recurring at semi-regular intervals.

Real-time WTN guessing could be interesting for instance.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DeanMorrison on June 21, 2011, 12:20:30 PM
Bringing back some old segments like the Skeptical Puzzle would be good, with some real time guessing from the panellists and/or the viewing audience.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DRmeg378 on June 21, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
I think a short greeting or interview with a listener from each time zone could be fun. Or also, have listeners record short clips to be played at the top of every hour.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on June 21, 2011, 02:20:11 PM
I think reading and answering listener emails as they come in would be neat and potentially funny.  Just keep it anonymous to be safe.  I also like Meg's idea about listener sound-bites.  Perhaps set up and announce a Google Voice number that people can call into and leave voicemails on.  That way you'd get transcripts and could screen easily for troublemakers.

Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on June 23, 2011, 11:16:34 AM
I'll add some more thoughts I had:

How about a skeptic chat roulette where fans of the show could log on and you would randomly select someone to introduce themselves?

I think a live on-the-fly version of Science or Fiction would be interesting.  Not sure of the setup there and how easy it would be to sequester Steve from the others, but I’m sure there’s a creative way to make it work.

There, without a doubt, needs to be some kind of skeptical drinking game between two or more of you.  Everyone has to do a shot anytime Bob says “Nano” etc. (on second thought, scrap that specific example.  Alcohol poisoning is not fun).
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Scybert on June 23, 2011, 03:19:53 PM
How is this being funded?  Is it a fund-raiser itself?  I'm guessing the panel is volunteering, but there are travel and bandwidth expenses.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Skeptic on June 23, 2011, 03:27:41 PM
I'll add some more thoughts I had:

How about a skeptic chat roulette where fans of the show could log on and you would randomly select someone to introduce themselves?

Yeah I think this would be a good way to have chats with the fans.  If we can somehow show that we are forum members by  providing our voice chat details you can see who it is and determine if we are reliable.  It's likely the forum users will be reasonable.  We enter the voice chat room and you choose to speak to us or not.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Mozart321 on June 29, 2011, 08:21:12 AM
I think it would be good to get every member of the team to come up with a Science or Fiction.  It would be interesting to hear Steve answering.  It doesn't happen often enough.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on June 29, 2011, 01:29:07 PM
I think it would be good to get every member of the team to come up with a Science or Fiction.  It would be interesting to hear Steve answering.  It doesn't happen often enough.

+1, with the last round having the theme of sleep deprivation.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Henning on June 29, 2011, 03:09:32 PM
Secret words!
Each rogue keeps a list of three, springs the word on the rest of the group when the first person says it, a shot of whiskey is administered... by the end of the show, potentially 15 forbidden words the skeptics must remember not to say.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on June 29, 2011, 05:46:48 PM
Try to get everybody listening to donate $24.  ;)

Also, are times already set? As of right now, I'm considering trying to listen to the whole thing live, though I'm not too confident about my ability to ward off sleep.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: SQ the ΣΛ/IGMд on June 29, 2011, 06:52:57 PM
Do a seance at midnight, the so-called "dead-time"

Watch in amazement as nothing happens.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: filip on June 29, 2011, 08:43:31 PM
How about at any time during the 24 hours they bust out a secret hand shake. O
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on July 01, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
I think it'd be interesting to be scouring the news while taping, find a science story, and take us through the process of how it gets from there to a segment on the show.  It could literally include you guys discussing it at the end as if it were a regular episode.  In the same vein as that, I think any other behind-the-scenes  glimpses we got would be welcome too.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: filip on July 01, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
I want a fight to the death between Jay and Bob.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: SQ the ΣΛ/IGMд on July 02, 2011, 09:42:35 AM
I want a fight to the death between Jay and Bob.

cage match
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: filip on July 03, 2011, 12:02:03 AM
I want a fight to the death between Jay and Bob.

cage match

Set to this theme:
Star Trek - Spock vs Kirk Battle Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AphxyjrH4SE#)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lion_Tamarin on July 03, 2011, 12:56:49 AM
How am I supposed actually watch the entire thing live?  Are people really planning to sit there for 24 hours watching it?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DeanMorrison on July 06, 2011, 02:28:35 PM
I think it'd be interesting to be scouring the news while taping, find a science story, and take us through the process of how it gets from there to a segment on the show.  It could literally include you guys discussing it at the end as if it were a regular episode.  In the same vein as that, I think any other behind-the-scenes  glimpses we got would be welcome too.

I second the motion! I'd love to see the research process behind the segments, how things are varified, etc.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: beans on July 09, 2011, 03:26:43 AM
well this is what Australian comedian got up to on his recent 24 hr radio show- http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/media/s3214839.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/media/s3214839.htm)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Soodal on July 09, 2011, 11:57:18 AM
How about getting listeners/viewers from around the world involved at certain times. It might be hard to have people phone up and join in live, and I guess there will be no chance to edit out abusive callers, but you could have people send in stories of sceptical success or magical nonsense from their countries and then you could read them out as the clock strikes a designated hour in each time zone, or you could have people send in commonly believed ghostly/mysterious tales from their countries and have them read out at midnight for each time zone.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on July 09, 2011, 11:02:15 PM
Well, I still say that doing a pen and paper RPG would be a silly way to kill 4-5 of those hours if done right. I STAND BY MY EARLIER POINT AND HAVE DICE IN HAND
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Stovetop32 on July 26, 2011, 09:10:09 PM
How about getting listeners/viewers from around the world involved at certain times. It might be hard to have people phone up and join in live, and I guess there will be no chance to edit out abusive callers, but you could have people send in stories of sceptical success or magical nonsense from their countries and then you could read them out as the clock strikes a designated hour in each time zone, or you could have people send in commonly believed ghostly/mysterious tales from their countries and have them read out at midnight for each time zone.

Along these lines, how about having Evan announce the hour, at the top of the hour, in a language spoken in a new time zone.  So, announce that it is 8:00 pm (or whatever) each time, but do it in a new language as 8:00 sweeps the globe.  People can tune in and feel like it's tailored just for their time zone ;)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DeanMorrison on July 27, 2011, 04:13:35 PM
Is this officially named SGU 24? 'Cause I liked Bob's idea of "Skeptipolooza!"

Or maybe, "Skept-O-Rama!" or "Skeptravaganza!" or "Skeptival"
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: David E. on July 29, 2011, 09:38:55 AM
So how much of this fishbowl will you all actually watch? 
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: mezzoforte11 on July 30, 2011, 04:18:36 PM
I've just had a terrible realisation that I'll be away when this is going on. Will it be recorded for posterity and released in full or in episodes? Sorry if this has been answered already, I've been through this thread and can't find the info, and panic demands that I post! Either way, it'll be one less realtime solo listener bumming around in PJs for you, tragic :/
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on July 31, 2011, 09:32:20 PM
I'll see the entire thing live, after all I'm a 25-year-old university student and if there's one thing I'm good at it's having completely messed up sleeping cycles. I'd love to call in as well.

Bummer I'll probably be only tho. Anyone in central Germany up for a listening party? :D
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: ?Didgya! on August 03, 2011, 09:10:50 PM
Have some of the Rouges run social experiments (on one or all the others) through the show and reveal the results at the end.  Have the Rouges make predictions (about each others mental state at the end of the show) then, at the end, see who does the best.   
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on August 06, 2011, 06:20:59 AM
I'll see the entire thing live, after all I'm a 25-year-old university student and if there's one thing I'm good at it's having completely messed up sleeping cycles. I'd love to call in as well.

Bummer I'll probably be only tho. Anyone in central Germany up for a listening party? :D

Jena is a bit far - make it up to the Ostsee and we'll talk. ;)

Actually my wife and I were just around the corner in the Harz last week. Great hiking.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: fnx on August 16, 2011, 03:55:58 PM
You should have ten pounds of bacon and then have Jay eat it all in the 24 hours.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on August 16, 2011, 03:58:49 PM
How about having joke auditions for a 4th Novella on the show.  Bring by some of the other siblings and let us see how the chemisty works.  BTW, just how many Novellas are there?  I thought Bob said he has a twin, but I thought there were others too.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Nene on August 18, 2011, 06:26:45 AM
I've just had a terrible realisation that I'll be away when this is going on. Will it be recorded for posterity and released in full or in episodes? Sorry if this has been answered already, I've been through this thread and can't find the info, and panic demands that I post! Either way, it'll be one less realtime solo listener bumming around in PJs for you, tragic :/

I second that, a) I have a really crappy internet connection at home and can't watch/listen to live-streaming and b) my boss is sending me to a conference, I will be on a stupid plane when this is going on.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: gs on August 18, 2011, 10:48:52 AM
a mini pony!  that jay rides around
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Earl_of_Edmonds on August 18, 2011, 04:13:14 PM
Is this officially named SGU 24? 'Cause I liked Bob's idea of "Skeptipolooza!"

Or maybe, "Skept-O-Rama!" or "Skeptravaganza!" or "Skeptival"
Why not Skept-a-thon??

it is a pledge drive correct??
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Jay on August 24, 2011, 11:12:48 AM
If you get the mini-pony to the set I will ride that fucker!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: gs on August 29, 2011, 03:15:23 PM
If you get the mini-pony to the set I will ride that fucker!

I wonder how much it costs to fly a small pony from california to the east coast? *runs to google*

btw, on 'www.theskepticsguide.org/sgu24 (http://www.theskepticsguide.org/sgu24)', the number of hours remaining left to sponsor doesnt work properly.  You may wanna check your code.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: BadPseudonym on September 06, 2011, 11:11:49 AM
Hi all,

I'm getting married next week and thought that sponsoring an hour of the SGU 24 would be a belated extra surprise for my soon-to-be-wife, along with a bit of an apology from the rogues for my extreme geekiness. However, we'll be on our honeymoon while the live show is happening. Is it going to be turned into podcasts? If so, it's worth me doing, because then I can put it on in the car when we're back and go through the usual 'oh you're such a science geek' conversation before she hears my message read out. If not, however, she'll never know I did it, and so I'll just give the SGU a slightly smaller donation.

Please someone help me figure this one out!!

Thanks folks,


Dan
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Anders on September 07, 2011, 12:16:13 PM
Well, I still say that doing a pen and paper RPG would be a silly way to kill 4-5 of those hours if done right. I STAND BY MY EARLIER POINT AND HAVE DICE IN HAND

I think Rebecca would be a kick-ass GM. She has that touch of sadism necessary.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: gs on September 09, 2011, 11:15:04 AM
Hi all,

I'm getting married next week and thought that sponsoring an hour of the SGU 24 would be a belated extra surprise for my soon-to-be-wife, along with a bit of an apology from the rogues for my extreme geekiness. However, we'll be on our honeymoon while the live show is happening. Is it going to be turned into podcasts? If so, it's worth me doing, because then I can put it on in the car when we're back and go through the usual 'oh you're such a science geek' conversation before she hears my message read out. If not, however, she'll never know I did it, and so I'll just give the SGU a slightly smaller donation.

Please someone help me figure this one out!!

Thanks folks,


Dan

Grats on getting maried, Dan! :)


on a completely unrelated note, grats SGU for selling out all sponsorship slots!
Quote from: SGU24 page
You did it! We have completely sold out of sponsorship slots.
I guess we should have charged more ;)

A huge thanks to all of our sponsors.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: russau on September 12, 2011, 09:13:56 AM
Random idea for the 24 hour show.  Keep one panelist away from any clocks/watches/time displays - and regularly ask him/her how many hours have lapsed.

In the same vein as some of the experiments by this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Siffre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Siffre)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 12, 2011, 09:26:18 AM
Random idea for the 24 hour show.  Keep one panelist away from any clocks/watches/time displays - and regularly ask him/her how many hours have lapsed.

In the same vein as some of the experiments by this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Siffre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Siffre)

That's a really cool idea!  I think they should try a couple of different amateur experiments regarding sleep deprivation.  Perhaps something testing memory, reaction times, and even other perceptions.  They could even use fans or the people dropping in who are not sleep deprived as controls.

ETA:
Your idea distracted me and I didn't post what I came here to post :).  I was thinking people should make suggestions in this thread for sound clips for the rogues to have ala DragonCon's buttons.  I vote Jay get a clip of Bob saying "Heeellllooooooo."
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Caution on September 12, 2011, 09:56:48 AM
Question:  Will there be any particular software required to watch the stream?  Flash? Something else?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 12, 2011, 10:20:57 AM
Question:  Will there be any particular software required to watch the stream?  Flash? Something else?

Dunno. I haven't heard the SGU say how or where they will stream it but the Skeptrack at Dragon*con was streamed here: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/16983592 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/16983592)

If they stream it from USTREAM and that website works for you then you'll be all set.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Choyles on September 13, 2011, 08:42:27 AM
I think it would be awesome if you could get Kineto to perform the intro song at the beginning of the show!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: gs on September 13, 2011, 10:44:11 AM
I think it would be awesome if you could get Kineto to perform the intro song at the beginning of the show!

+1
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Kathilliana on September 14, 2011, 09:43:58 AM
I'm really excited about SGU  24! (Does this make me a nerd?) My husband isn't even all wonky about it.... he understands. :-)

I'm loving some of the ideas in this thread. My two favorites are getting some insight in how a story goes from discovery to on-air and a few interviews with some of your more serious forum posters.

I hope you guys have fun with it!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: gs on September 14, 2011, 05:23:38 PM
i hope all the males on the show wear the much ballyhooed batman-esque skeptical toolbelt!

i would love you guys so much and it would be extra fun watching Rebecca wish she had one but not being able to admit to it.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Jay on September 15, 2011, 10:49:11 PM
Thanks for all these ideas.  We went through all these and got good ideas.  Any more ideas would be appreciated  ;D
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 16, 2011, 09:46:22 AM
Your request for commands gave me an evil idea  >:D.  I think you've already stated you're going to have buttons which play sound clips.  What if instead of using pre-recorded audio clips, you make it so the button force SGU panelists to say a phrase/noise or perform an action?  These things could be user submitted and could change periodically throughout the 24 hours, or if it seems too much, you could do it for only an hour of the segment. 

Another idea I had is that you guys could have a means for polling your viewers on different questions thoughout the day.  You might even use it for live Science or Fiction segments if you do them.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 16, 2011, 09:52:56 AM
Don't forget to tell people how they will be getting this content.  Someone was on IRC last night asking how the streaming was going to be happening, and if a 24 hour long podcast was going to be released later.

^ This reminded me; if you are still up in the air on how to provide this content after the event is over, perhaps you could release 24 1-hour video podcasts, or even just audio.  If not over iTunes etc, maybe you could post them to your youtube channel.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Kathilliana on September 16, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
What if each of you had someone close to you sit in for a short segment (20 minutes or so,) and give us some outsider/insider perspective into all of you? You could use this time wisely, like bathroom break or scarf down a sandwich.

Hilarity may ensue!

Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 16, 2011, 01:43:11 PM
How about screwing with viewers by starting the show dressed in Stargate uniforms in front of a green screen displaying sets from Stargate: Universe?   ;D
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Miisanthrope on September 16, 2011, 03:12:10 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before, but is the countdown clock actually synced to 8 pm EST? I just can't get the math to work, it appears to be three hours behind.

Not that it matters to me as such, as I calculated it should start at 3 am my time the night before a full work day, won't help much even if it starts already at my midnight.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 16, 2011, 03:23:37 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before, but is the countdown clock actually synced to 8 pm EST? I just can't get the math to work, it appears to be three hours behind.

Not that it matters to me as such, as I calculated it should start at 3 am my time the night before a full work day, won't help much even if it starts already at my midnight.

They have the countdown timer set to 24 Sep midnight. And Eastern is 4 hours ahead of UTC.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Miisanthrope on September 16, 2011, 03:31:37 PM
Ah, so it it set to countdown to everyone's own midnight? Makes sense, as it seems to be counting down to 26 or 27 hours before it starts.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 16, 2011, 03:38:10 PM
Ah, so it it set to countdown to everyone's own midnight? Makes sense, as it seems to be counting down to 26 or 27 hours before it starts.

I'm sorry, I was off by a day. It's set to midnight on 23 Sep.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Miisanthrope on September 16, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
Mine is showing 6 days, 1 hour and 17 minutes, putting it at (my) midnight between the 22nd and 23rd.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: ralius on September 17, 2011, 04:14:52 PM
Hi there, I'm just wondering what time zone you guys are in as I am going to listen to the SGU 24 podcast and I want to know what time it will start in my country. Also, where are you streaming the audio and video?  And yes I am watching the rugby world cup.
Thanks
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: WC on September 18, 2011, 06:33:19 PM
I'm getting a really bad feeling that some folks are gonna try to crash the event, they've already derailed Steve's blog post announcing SGU24 over at Skepticblog (http://www.skepticblog.org/2011/09/12/24-hours-of-skeptical-activism/). I don't know if this is the appropriate place to express concern or make a suggestion about it... I foresee a situation where agitators+sleep deprivation+hot tempers will grind everything down into a mess. Please don't let the haters take anything off topic and drive the event into the ground, please don't go there with them.

Really excited about SGU24! WOOT! (now, to try to figure out how to access it, hmm... I'm sure someone will explain it to me.)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 18, 2011, 08:35:29 PM
You mean crash "virtually"?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: WC on September 18, 2011, 10:14:03 PM
Yeah, I guess I mean "virtually", as in barging in and making a lot of noise and trying to derail everything. Not as in "computer crash".
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: zalty on September 18, 2011, 10:26:04 PM
I'm getting a really bad feeling that some folks are gonna try to crash the event, they've already derailed Steve's blog post announcing SGU24 over at Skepticblog (http://www.skepticblog.org/2011/09/12/24-hours-of-skeptical-activism/). I don't know if this is the appropriate place to express concern or make a suggestion about it... I foresee a situation where agitators+sleep deprivation+hot tempers will grind everything down into a mess. Please don't let the haters take anything off topic and drive the event into the ground, please don't go there with them.

I'm concerned that a single individual constantly trying to shove her political and religious opinions into the show will have free reign and without editing, this will be an embarassment to the SGU. Which I suppose is why they haven't answered questions about whether the show will be recorded and available for download. (I suspect the answer is yes, but a thoroughly edited edition).

I have a very unpredictable schedule which may include travelling on the 23rd. But if I'm home and not busy I will do my best to record the show and put it online. Hopefully this will serve as enough of a motivator to keep said individual honest.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on September 18, 2011, 11:31:32 PM
Hmm. Rebecca Watson is part of the show. I don't think she's going to be leaving any time soon. I'd go so far as to say that her continued presence implies tacit approval by the rest of the panel of her expression of said political and religious views. Which raises the point: why are you listening to the podcast at all if Rebecca scares/annoys/embarrasses you so much? And, to take things a step further, if you don't listen to it, why are you still here?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: zalty on September 19, 2011, 12:26:25 AM
...her continued presence implies tacit approval by the rest of the panel of her expression of said political and religious views.

Steve's scrupulous editing implies the reverse.

Which raises the point: why are you listening to the podcast at all if Rebecca scares/annoys/embarrasses you so much?

Firstly, the biggest issue I have is the fact that most people that I convinced to listen to the podcast, cited her as the main reason they soon quit.

Secondly, I disagree with your premise. I believe that people should read, listen and watch people that they disagree with even more than those they agree with. Besides, I enjoy listening to Steve and the others.

...if you don't listen to it, why are you still here?

I've already answered that, but I disagree with your premise here too.

P.S. I was really just responding to say that I intended to record it if I could. I don't want to take this thread in that direction.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: WC on September 19, 2011, 12:32:44 AM
I really regret mentioning it at all now. Can we move this to a more appropriate thread? I wish I could go back in time... Damn it, I should not have brought this up. Please don't flame.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on September 19, 2011, 12:48:17 AM
...her continued presence implies tacit approval by the rest of the panel of her expression of said political and religious views.

Steve's scrupulous editing implies the reverse.
And you've listened to the unedited podcasts then?

(http://shortwavepirate.info/WBNY/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/attentionwhore.jpg)

Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: zalty on September 19, 2011, 02:04:28 AM
...her continued presence implies tacit approval by the rest of the panel of her expression of said political and religious views.

Steve's scrupulous editing implies the reverse.
And you've listened to the unedited podcasts then?

There's another false premise.

\End of discussion
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 19, 2011, 09:08:14 AM
...her continued presence implies tacit approval by the rest of the panel of her expression of said political and religious views.

Steve's scrupulous editing implies the reverse.
And you've listened to the unedited podcasts then?

There's another false premise.

\End of discussion

You don't get to make up lies and declare an end to the discussion.

Which unedited podcasts have you listened to?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Belgarath on September 19, 2011, 11:21:51 AM
Yea, I'm curious how you know that the podcast is scrupulously edited without hearing the pieces edited out.....
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 19, 2011, 11:24:05 AM
Yea, I'm curious how you know that the podcast is scrupulously edited without hearing the pieces edited out.....

Didn't you hear?  That's a false premise.  Duh...
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Belgarath on September 19, 2011, 11:56:43 AM
Yea, I'm curious how you know that the podcast is scrupulously edited without hearing the pieces edited out.....

Didn't you hear?  That's a false premise.  Duh...

Ok, then which rogue did he talk to who told him that one of the rogue's comments are scrupulously edited out?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 19, 2011, 11:58:59 AM
Yea, I'm curious how you know that the podcast is scrupulously edited without hearing the pieces edited out.....

Didn't you hear?  That's a false premise.  Duh...

Ok, then which rogue did he talk to who told him that one of the rogue's comments are scrupulously edited out?

Stop false premising dude; you're making it hard for zalty to make his/her point.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Belgarath on September 19, 2011, 12:04:42 PM
Yea, I'm curious how you know that the podcast is scrupulously edited without hearing the pieces edited out.....

Didn't you hear?  That's a false premise.  Duh...

Ok, then which rogue did he talk to who told him that one of the rogue's comments are scrupulously edited out?

Stop false premising dude; you're making it hard for zalty to make his/her point.

Ok, then what did Sylvia Browne tell him and when did she tell him?

Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: zalty on September 19, 2011, 12:11:39 PM
Yea, I'm curious how you know that the podcast is scrupulously edited without hearing the pieces edited out.....

Didn't you hear?  That's a false premise.  Duh...

Ok, then which rogue did he talk to who told him that one of the rogue's comments are scrupulously edited out?

You're getting warmer...
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Belgarath on September 19, 2011, 12:23:07 PM
It must be Sylvia Browne then......
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on September 19, 2011, 01:02:38 PM
It must be Sylvia Browne then......

Wait... Sylvia Browne is one of the rogues now? How could I have missed that? Guess I need access to those unedited shows...
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 19, 2011, 01:02:59 PM
zalty's saying Steve has previously mentioned he has to edit out some comments made by some of the rogues but since zalty has never heard the edited comments made by Rebecca his premise is unsupported.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on September 19, 2011, 04:38:42 PM
Yea, I'm curious how you know that the podcast is scrupulously edited without hearing the pieces edited out.....

Didn't you hear?  That's a false premise.  Duh...

Ok, then which rogue did he talk to who told him that one of the rogue's comments are scrupulously edited out?

You're getting warmer...
If you have a point to make, why don't you actually make it? Or is asking you to do that also a false premise?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on September 19, 2011, 04:40:53 PM
zalty's saying Steve has previously mentioned he has to edit out some comments made by some of the rogues but since zalty has never heard the edited comments made by Rebecca his premise is unsupported.
No, he's not saying that either. He is saying... nothing. He has vague, unsupported claims because, I am guessing, if he has no support and therefore his specific unsupported claims would be shot down quicker than something that gets shot down very quickly.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Choyles on September 19, 2011, 06:18:50 PM
Maybe they should have Neal Adams on. Then we'll see how much one rogues' political and religious opinions matter!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TheIrreverend on September 19, 2011, 09:23:05 PM
May I suggest that at least one of the rogues be logged in to the chat room for the duration; that will allow some "audience participation" on the show for those of us who aren't going to be in groups and/or have commitments, etc.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: werecow on September 22, 2011, 08:22:37 AM
So... A couple of people have been asking where we will be able to find the stream... Is it supposed to be a surprise, or did I/we miss the announcement? }|:o.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Moloch on September 22, 2011, 08:29:15 AM
So... A couple of people have been asking where we will be able to find the stream... Is it supposed to be a surprise, or did I/we miss the announcement? }|:o.

Nope, we're all waiting....
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: uolj on September 22, 2011, 10:30:08 AM
I thought it was going to be streaming from the SGU24 site:

http://www.theskepticsguide.org/24HourShow.aspx (http://www.theskepticsguide.org/24HourShow.aspx)

?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: rlquinn1980 on September 23, 2011, 01:04:57 PM
So... A couple of people have been asking where we will be able to find the stream... Is it supposed to be a surprise, or did I/we miss the announcement? }|:o.

Nope, we're all waiting....

That was going to be my question, too.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Pscheptyck on September 23, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
I may have missed this bit, but has the SGU ever said whether the full 24 hrs will be "released" as a podcast?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: gs on September 23, 2011, 01:34:00 PM
i assume they will be putting it up on their youtube channel instead.  Would itunes allow the SGU to do just one video podcast and the rest audio? i have no idea how itunes works.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Nene on September 23, 2011, 01:36:35 PM
Just so you know, I hate you all. In 8 hours my research group leaves for its annual camping trip. I am not even sure we will have cell phone coverage.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 23, 2011, 02:18:33 PM
O.k. now, I have chips and coke and an entire vanilla minecraft map to fill. Just 5 hours...
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on September 23, 2011, 04:12:40 PM
Trying to decide if I should go to bed for four hours now until it starts or not. I'm with Jay on this one, you guys should have started this morning - it's going to be 2 am when it starts here.  :P
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: werecow on September 23, 2011, 04:20:28 PM
O.k. now, I have chips and coke and an entire vanilla minecraft map to fill. Just 5 hours...
My desktop suddenly died yesterday, so I've been getting my old laptop up and running all day so that I can watch. I hope it'll work. The SGU crew will be featured on my beamer! I've built my own little skeptilair. Wires are everywhere. Also soda, beer, chips, pizza, and other snacks. I think I'm ready.

Trying to decide if I should go to bed for four hours now until it starts or not. I'm with Jay on this one, you guys should have started this morning - it's going to be 2 am when it starts here.  :P

Are you a Dutchie too?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Gerbig on September 23, 2011, 04:22:25 PM
Is there any program that can record live streams into video files in real time? Does such a thing exist?

Also, Popcorn, coffee, jube jube candies.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on September 23, 2011, 04:38:12 PM
O.k. now, I have chips and coke and an entire vanilla minecraft map to fill. Just 5 hours...
My desktop suddenly died yesterday, so I've been getting my old laptop up and running all day so that I can watch. I hope it'll work. The SGU crew will be featured on my beamer! I've built my own little skeptilair. Wires are everywhere. Also soda, beer, chips, pizza, and other snacks. I think I'm ready.

Trying to decide if I should go to bed for four hours now until it starts or not. I'm with Jay on this one, you guys should have started this morning - it's going to be 2 am when it starts here.  :P

Are you a Dutchie too?

Deutschie. ;)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: werecow on September 23, 2011, 04:42:22 PM

Are you a Dutchie too?

Deutschie. ;)

Ah... Howdy neighbor! }|:o)\-<
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DeanMorrison on September 23, 2011, 04:43:12 PM
Anyone going to be recording the stream?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: uolj on September 23, 2011, 05:06:06 PM
So... A couple of people have been asking where we will be able to find the stream...

From Steven Novella's blog (http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/sgu-24-streaming-live/):

Quote
As I write this we are T-5 hours 24 minutes (8pm Eastern US time) for the SGU24 live audio and video streaming event. We have tons of content and guests ready to go.

You can view the show here: http://www.theskepticsguide.org/24HourShow.aspx (http://www.theskepticsguide.org/24HourShow.aspx)
This will include a chat window we will be monitoring.

For those who wish to participate via Twitter, the hash is #sgu24.

For those watching the show in a group who want to chat us by Skype, or even Skype into the event, the public Skype name is TheSkepticsGuide.

See you online.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 06:06:34 PM
Only 2 hours and 10 minutes to go. I will more than likely be able to catch the first 9 hours.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: rlquinn1980 on September 23, 2011, 06:48:56 PM
HELP

My hubby and I got Skype so we could see each other while he's overseas, but aside from knowing how to contact him, I'm dumb as doornails when it comes to really using the program. A Google search for help got me nowhere. Can anyone here answer my question?

How do you join a Skype Public Chatroom? If it makes a difference, I'm on a Mac with Leopard, and my Skype is version 5.2.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Sordid on September 23, 2011, 07:23:50 PM
Doesn't work. :( All I get is a black screen with "Audio broadcast station" written on it and underneath it in what I assume to be a chat window, a "could not connect to remote server" error.
Yeah, well done with this thing, guys. Isn't bugged at all.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Belgarath on September 23, 2011, 07:25:16 PM
Doesn't work. :( All I get is a black screen with "Audio broadcast station" written on it and underneath it in what I assume to be a chat window, a "could not connect to remote server" error.
Yeah, well done with this thing, guys. Isn't bugged at all.


Yea, sarcasm even before it starts!  Love it!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: rlquinn1980 on September 23, 2011, 07:25:54 PM
Doesn't work. :( All I get is a black screen with "Audio broadcast station" written on it and underneath it in what I assume to be a chat window, a "could not connect to remote server" error.
Yeah, well done with this thing, guys. Isn't bugged at all.

I don't think it starts for another 35 minutes. It may be temporarily disconnected while they're finishing up last minute to-do's at location.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Sordid on September 23, 2011, 07:33:43 PM
Doesn't work. :( All I get is a black screen with "Audio broadcast station" written on it and underneath it in what I assume to be a chat window, a "could not connect to remote server" error.
Yeah, well done with this thing, guys. Isn't bugged at all.


Yea, sarcasm even before it starts!  Love it!

Says on the front page that it's already started.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: uolj on September 23, 2011, 07:34:49 PM
The chat window isn't working but if you go to irc.thinstack.net channel #sgu24 you can join the chat with your favorite irc client. (Not that I know anything about this.)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 23, 2011, 07:41:01 PM
can't connect with mIRC - is there a port number?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Gerbig on September 23, 2011, 07:42:20 PM
How can i make this work?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 07:42:43 PM
AAAAH! Jay is looking right at me!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: uolj on September 23, 2011, 07:43:09 PM
can't connect with mIRC - is there a port number?

I didn't use one... but I am no expert. I just did:

/attach irc.thinstack.net

then joined #sgu24.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
The audio isn't working for me yet. I'm sure it will eventually if I keep refreshing. Anyone else have that problem?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DRmeg378 on September 23, 2011, 07:45:16 PM
The audio isn't working for me yet. I'm sure it will eventually if I keep refreshing. Anyone else have that problem?

you have an image? I don't.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 07:46:50 PM
I see now that I was watching a short vid from a few hours ago. No, the live stream isn't working yet after all.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 23, 2011, 07:49:12 PM
Hm I installed chatzilla, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere... When I type in "/attach irc.thinstack.net" it looks that term up in Google. Using Firefox 4.0

Edit: Nevermind, found a 100 KB IRC client that works :D weird how mIRC doesn't work with this.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: uolj on September 23, 2011, 07:51:21 PM
Hm I installed chatzilla, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere... When I type in "/attach irc.thinstack.net" it looks that term up in Google. Using Firefox 4.0

I had that problem in FF 6.0. I right-clicked the toolbar and selected customize. One of the buttons was a ChatZilla button, so I added it to the toolbar. Then I clicked it and ChatZilla opened.

I updated my nickname in the Preferences, then typed the /attach line and it worked (after some failures).
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Sordid on September 23, 2011, 07:52:00 PM
The chat window isn't working but if you go to irc.thinstack.net channel #sgu24 you can join the chat with your favorite irc client. (Not that I know anything about this.)

And that's the same chat as the one under the live broadcast, is it?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Jay_One on September 23, 2011, 07:53:47 PM
Webchat available right here:

http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5 (http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5)

http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5 (http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5)

http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5 (http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 23, 2011, 08:03:47 PM
I think the video is working because when you click on the window it takes you to Justin.tv and the title is SGU 24 Test.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: explodingalice on September 23, 2011, 08:07:48 PM
Twitter feed says up in 5 minutes!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 08:09:21 PM
That test vid is from a few hours ago I think. I saw it earlier and thought it had started, but looks like the live stream will start in a few minutes.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Henning on September 23, 2011, 08:13:17 PM
Wow. Mine said 1403 live... and climbing, but still no picture or sound besides "Audio broadcast station"
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 23, 2011, 08:14:38 PM
I"ve got video... and Bob's naked ass.  No audio though
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 08:15:06 PM
I've been able to see the picture for a couple minutes now. I saw the little intro vid (including Bob's naked butt), but no sound.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: explodingalice on September 23, 2011, 08:16:11 PM
Sigh. So busy trying to figure out sound that I missed the booty.  :P
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 23, 2011, 08:17:12 PM
If you click to watch the stream on Justin.tv there's a chat window there too.  Everyone says the same thing.  No sound
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Cybrmynd on September 23, 2011, 08:18:37 PM
I've got my speakers almost on full blast, so I'm pretty much waiting for the sound to arrive.

I guess its just like the other bros said, Bob is pretty buff. :laugh:
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 23, 2011, 08:20:50 PM
It all came back, and they were clearly trying to figure out the audio problems.  Then it went away.  So no worries everyone, it's not just you.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 08:25:00 PM
I have audio!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DCLimey on September 23, 2011, 08:32:12 PM
Got sound. Picture sucks and keeps getting interrupted by ads though!

Plus no iPad feed!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Beep Boop Boop on September 23, 2011, 08:37:08 PM
So how do I join the skype chat?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: uolj on September 23, 2011, 08:38:18 PM
Got sound. Picture sucks and keeps getting interrupted by ads though!

I haven't seen any ads from the main SGU24 site: http://www.theskepticsguide.org/24HourShow.aspx (http://www.theskepticsguide.org/24HourShow.aspx)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 08:38:47 PM
Got sound. Picture sucks and keeps getting interrupted by ads though!

Plus no iPad feed!

I am using adblock with Firefox and I don't see any ads.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DCLimey on September 23, 2011, 08:40:23 PM
It's all good now, though!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DCLimey on September 23, 2011, 08:41:29 PM
Skype Chat name is TheSkepticsGuide
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Beep Boop Boop on September 23, 2011, 08:43:06 PM
Skype Chat name is TheSkepticsGuide
That isn't helping. 
EDIT:
Its not a chat.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DCLimey on September 23, 2011, 08:46:54 PM
Yep. Realized that at the same time as you!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 23, 2011, 08:51:40 PM
I think I'm out. The stream pauses and everything gets white exactly every 60 seconds, I have to hit F5 to get the stream going again. Looks like an ad that fails to load or something. Happens with both Firefox and Chrome.

Since I seem to be the only one with that problem it shouldn't be a big deal. I'll hope someone will upload the thing on youtube some day.

Happy watching everyone :)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Plain Simple on September 23, 2011, 08:57:49 PM
Any word on how to join the Skype Chat?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Beep Boop Boop on September 23, 2011, 08:59:38 PM
Any word on how to join the Skype Chat?
Its not a skype chat.  Its just a contact info so you could sent them messages.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Plain Simple on September 23, 2011, 09:03:31 PM
Any word on how to join the Skype Chat?
Its not a skype chat.  Its just a contact info so you could sent them messages.

Thanks!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 09:03:40 PM
For anyone who isn't aware, there is a chat (not referring to skype, just regular chat) on the same page as the stream and I think that is the one they are monitoring from what they said earlier.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: EmergentSystem on September 23, 2011, 09:08:44 PM
I think I'm out. The stream pauses and everything gets white exactly every 60 seconds, I have to hit F5 to get the stream going again. Looks like an ad that fails to load or something. Happens with both Firefox and Chrome.

Since I seem to be the only one with that problem it shouldn't be a big deal. I'll hope someone will upload the thing on youtube some day.

Happy watching everyone :)
I got the exact same problem. Every minute the stream stops, refresh and it works again, but then stops again after the same amount of time.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 23, 2011, 09:11:33 PM
I think I'm out. The stream pauses and everything gets white exactly every 60 seconds, I have to hit F5 to get the stream going again. Looks like an ad that fails to load or something. Happens with both Firefox and Chrome.

Since I seem to be the only one with that problem it shouldn't be a big deal. I'll hope someone will upload the thing on youtube some day.

Happy watching everyone :)
I got the exact same problem. Every minute the stream stops, refresh and it works again, but then stops again after the same amount of time.

Now there are a lot of people reporting this as well in the chat. They all seem to be in Europe - are you in Europe as well?

Edit: Ah yes, just seen your profile page.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 23, 2011, 09:15:45 PM
I wonder why they don't switch to BlogTV or even have that as a backup-plan.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Beep Boop Boop on September 23, 2011, 09:16:52 PM
I wonder why they don't switch to BlogTV or even have that as a backup-plan.
Because JustinTv isn't the problem. 
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
The technical difficulties are no big deal. These things are bound to happen and for a number of reasons. I will stick around and continue watching. I've enjoyed it so far.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 23, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
I wonder why they don't switch to BlogTV or even have that as a backup-plan.
Because JustinTv isn't the problem. 

Well it seems to be for at least some of the issues that they are having.

There are also some people getting error messages with "Your country has exceeded the maximum number of streams for justintv, please purchase a premium account to continue".


Sorry, I'm just pissed. I've been looking forward to this for weeks, and now nothing works. I suggest they cancel the show now, do a few days of testing and then restart it next weekend.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: EmergentSystem on September 23, 2011, 09:24:13 PM
They seem to have fixed it. I'm no longer freezing up.  :)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Mr Scumbag on September 23, 2011, 09:28:42 PM
The Justin TV chat is pretty terrible. Basically a constant stream of people trying (and failing miserably) to be funny. Disappointing. :(

Is there any more constructive SGU24 chats going on anywhere?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 23, 2011, 09:30:10 PM
the IRC chat is still on. The people there are much nicer.

http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5 (http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Mr Scumbag on September 23, 2011, 09:34:50 PM
the IRC chat is still on. The people there are much nicer.

http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5 (http://qchat.rizon.net/?nick=sgufan.&channels=sgu24&prompt=1&uio=OD10cnVla5)

Thanks. :) This chat looks waaaay better.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 09:36:47 PM
Yeah, it's more constructive. I don't know if any of the rogues are monitoring it though. I imagine someone there has it open.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Mr Scumbag on September 23, 2011, 09:38:42 PM
Yeah, it's more constructive. I don't know if any of the rogues are monitoring it though. I imagine someone there has it open.

They really should. It moves a lot slower and they may be able to glean some useful information out of it without all the caps and terrible jokes the Jtv chat is plagued with.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 23, 2011, 09:39:38 PM
Rebecca said the only chat they are monitoring is the one on the SGU24 page.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 09:44:31 PM
OK, thanks for confirming. I thought I heard one of them mention that at one point.

I don't seem to be able to post in the IRC chat now for some reason anyway. But I can still read what people are saying.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 23, 2011, 09:45:50 PM
Well, the chat on the SGU24 page IS the irc chat... they are the same thing.

Unless she was talking about the justintv page. That one is different.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Moloch on September 23, 2011, 10:23:16 PM
The show is still down right? I haven't seen anything in almost an hour.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 10:24:18 PM
Yeah, still down. But maybe not for long. From Rebecca's twitter a few minutes ago: "Things are starting to look promising for #sgu24! Hold pls"
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Belgarath on September 23, 2011, 10:27:18 PM
Yeah, still down. But maybe not for long. From Rebecca's twitter a few minutes ago: "Things are starting to look promising for #sgu24! Hold pls"

And from it just now:

Quote
Aaaaand our Internet just went down again. #SGU24

Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 10:29:07 PM
Yeah, I just saw that. :(

She mentioned that there is something going on with the ISP earlier: "ISP has capsized our #sgu24 ship. Angry calls being made. Thanks for being cool!"

So maybe it's nothing technical on the Rogues' end. Maybe it has something to do with the ISP not liking the amount of traffic? I dunno.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Mr Scumbag on September 23, 2011, 10:41:25 PM
I've heard something about maintenance downtime but no idea how true that is.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: IrishJazz on September 23, 2011, 10:48:48 PM
When I first heard about this I thought it was a great bad idea.  So far I am half right. 

Admire the ambition, but this is as frustrating an experience as I have had.  Kudos to whoever ponied up $500 to get called and asked about monkeys and birds. 
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: seaotter on September 23, 2011, 10:54:30 PM
 SkepticsGuide SkepticsGuide
#sgu24 - back up any second now
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

 SkepticsGuide SkepticsGuide
#sgu24 - 2 minutes
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 23, 2011, 10:56:02 PM
They're back.  :)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Avarice on September 23, 2011, 10:59:23 PM
Hooray! It's a good thing I prayed for the feed to start working again! It clearly worked!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: IrishJazz on September 23, 2011, 11:17:28 PM
Now on... still not convinced this is a good idea for the entire time, but rocking right now.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Sordid on September 23, 2011, 11:19:23 PM
Well it doesn't work for me. It worked fine at first, but now the video freezes literally every two minutes and I have to press pause and play to make it start again. I have no idea what the fuck they did, but that's the last straw, this is not fucking worth it. I'm off to bed.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: seaotter on September 23, 2011, 11:42:22 PM
Now on... still not convinced this is a good idea for the entire time, but rocking right now.

Awesome
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on September 24, 2011, 04:09:47 AM
My video stream stops playing about every 30 seconds and needs to be restarted. I've restarted my computer, the router, deleted cookies, disabled ad-block, gone to sleep for three hours, and tried again - It's still happening and I'm done trying to fix it. Too bad.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: MagnusM on September 24, 2011, 04:13:53 AM
I'm in Norway. The streaming on justintv was fine when the show began, but now the video freezes every few minutes. Has anyone contacted the hosts about this? Is there already a workaround available?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: ben_german on September 24, 2011, 04:19:55 AM
I'm in Norway. The streaming on justintv was fine when the show began, but now the video freezes every few minutes. Has anyone contacted the hosts about this? Is there already a workaround available?

Same happens to me over in Germany
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 24, 2011, 04:22:32 AM
That sucks, guys.  :(  Luckily, I haven't experienced that issue here in Arizona. I don't know if the browser makes a difference, but I'm using a PC with Firefox.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on September 24, 2011, 04:30:16 AM
I got a connection when the stream first started, and it worked great, until I lost my internet connection while switching from cable to wifi. After refreshing the page, this problem started. I've switched back to the cable, but it looks like this train has sailed, to mix a metaphor.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: MagnusM on September 24, 2011, 04:31:09 AM
I'm on a mac. I've tried Safari and Firefox. I doubt there is any way to fix it at my end. It seems to be a common problem in Europe. Is there any good way of contacting the crew about technical problems? The chat channels are completely flooded.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on September 24, 2011, 05:21:42 AM
I think tweeting or just chatting are the only ways to get ahold of them right now. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure the problem lies with justin.tv, so there's probably nothing they could do about it even if they were made aware of the problem. This sucks.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lzrd on September 24, 2011, 05:23:48 AM
Googling led me to the vague answer of "it's justin.tv's server stress handling". Couldn't find any elaborating details though.

Built-in denial of service functionality sounds like an awesome idea to me though.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on September 24, 2011, 05:24:59 AM
Especially when it makes your site unusuable during high traffic. :P
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: fnx on September 24, 2011, 06:48:55 AM
Happens to me too. Its kinda annoying having to pause and resume all the time :(
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Sordid on September 24, 2011, 06:59:20 AM
Yeah, that's why I just went "oh fuck it". First it's twenty minutes late, then it dies for an hour, and when it finally comes back it only runs for two minutes at a time? I understand it's the first time they do something like this and it's free and everything, but come on, that's a fucking joke. I was really looking forward to this and I must say I was bitterly disappointed.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: fnx on September 24, 2011, 07:06:12 AM
Yeah it doesn't seem to be a very common issue. I have a feeling justin.tv prefers american connections so maybe it gets better if more of them go to sleep ;)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: meisteh on September 24, 2011, 07:19:53 AM
I'm having the same problem :/ (in Germany)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: The God Delusion on September 24, 2011, 07:37:48 AM
How deeply disappointing is this? I waited the whole week, i cancelled all my other plans and i have hardly watched 10 minutes worth of footage, JustinTV is a huge let down :(
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Miisanthrope on September 24, 2011, 07:43:23 AM
Is there a streaming audio version anywhere? I'd be fine with that for now.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 24, 2011, 09:01:57 AM
Yeah the stream is basically not available in Europe.

People have been saying that in the chats as early as 30 minutes into the show, I've also tweeted them about it, but there really isn't much they could do except for switching the host.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: smithkhome on September 24, 2011, 09:21:45 AM
Is there a streaming audio version anywhere? I'd be fine with that for now.

Good question.  An audio-only stream would be a good option for those with limited bandwidth.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Trinoc on September 24, 2011, 09:59:01 AM
I'm getting the video fine in the UK, but the sound level is all over the place. When I first tuned in I had to connect my highest gain speakers to be able to hear it at all. Lately it's mostly still at that level but every few minutes the level goes up to normal and tries to shake the speakers apart.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: David E. on September 24, 2011, 10:21:40 AM
The ads are annoying. 
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: DRmeg378 on September 24, 2011, 10:23:32 AM
I haven't seen any ads. Perhaps Firefox blocks them...
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 24, 2011, 11:02:20 AM
I haven't seen any ads. Perhaps Firefox blocks them...

That's been my experience.  Ad-Blocker on Firefox works very well apparently.  I tried watching it on my phone and got ads.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Moloch on September 24, 2011, 11:27:57 AM
Haven't seen any ads on Chrome and have had uninterrupted streaming since the early hiccups.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on September 24, 2011, 01:19:16 PM
The IRC desperately needs a mod...
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Henning on September 24, 2011, 01:58:34 PM
Wow, I'm glad I popped on just in time for Joshie. He served breakfast with Bob's adorable daughter and then proceeded to take over the show for an hour! That guy needs to be more involved in SGU.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on September 24, 2011, 02:47:27 PM
I DEMAND CREDIT FOR THIS SEGMENT  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: AQB24712 on September 24, 2011, 02:49:53 PM
 :rock:  Dude.

This whole enterprise is just goony, but I can't seem to tear myself away.  I'm even watching baseball with the TV muted.

I left my laptop downstairs last night with the sound turned up, and went to bed during the technical difficulties. When the sound came on sometime during the night, it scared the crap out of me! Who's talking in my living room?

My poor cat finds this all quite puzzling.  Earlier today he had finally managed to tune out the conversation and fall asleep, only to be rudely awakened by the Caucasian Drum Circle.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: fnx on September 24, 2011, 04:27:04 PM
It's working for me now too :) I got in soon after the crash before it had many viewers so i think thats why it works. Finally i can enjoy the rogues on my 101" screen
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 24, 2011, 05:18:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/H9GU3.png)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Frank on September 24, 2011, 05:56:04 PM
Close to the same image.
(http://i.imgur.com/ricFM.jpg)

Been listening in through the day. Had to duck out for sleep/work from about 5am (British) 'til 7pm, more or less, but it's been grand dipping in at other points.

And in honour of what was just mentioned as I was typing the above:

(V) (;,,;) (V)




(Zoidberg!)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Dionysus on September 24, 2011, 08:01:43 PM
Said this in the chat, but much respect to the SGU for pulling off a 24 hour show. I stayed up for most of the show and enjoyed myself. :cheers:
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 24, 2011, 08:01:55 PM
Awesome show, guys. Thank you so much.

Do it again soon please.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 24, 2011, 08:05:37 PM
That was fun. I really enjoyed it.

Jay mentioned that he would be up for some 6-hour shows in the future, but another 24 doesn't sound likely.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: AQB24712 on September 24, 2011, 08:12:51 PM
I'm such a dork, I applauded. 

That was fun!  Thanks to all involved.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Caffiene on September 24, 2011, 08:14:14 PM
Yeah. Thanks and well done guys!

I dont know that another 24 isnt likely despite what Jay said... Theyre tired at the moment and it only just happened. 6 months down the track you tend to forget the bad parts and just remember the fun. At that point, who knows?


Im thinking Id love to see if we can get the raw recordings here on the forums and help out. Maybe do up transcripts or something.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Frank on September 24, 2011, 08:23:25 PM
I'm such a dork, I applauded. 

Haha, I did too. Felt very appropriate though.

Awesome show, guys. Cheers for taking the time to discuss the Monkey/Bird question in the last two hours; warmed a humble listener's heart! (Though, strictly speaking, so too did the whole show.)

'Til next time!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on September 24, 2011, 09:02:55 PM
Thanks for the show all!  Wish I could have seen more.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: toxibunny on September 24, 2011, 09:15:21 PM
Well, after technical issues on both ends (first tuned in during the big blackout at the start, and then my PC graphics card blew up (!), android browser wouldn't play it, neither would the PS3, or the Wii, FFFFFFUUUUUUUU!), and after a bit of a sleep to think about things, got it figured out in the morning in time to catch Phil Plait. Dipped in and out during the day, saw a bit of george hrab (much calmer than usual), the manga lady, some hunky chef guy serving up piles and piles of meat, more phil plait, did some tweeting, scary glowing Randi poster on the wall, a Tom Cruise head and a Spock Science Station, Jay in a hat, Jay without a hat, loads more stuff and eventually I must have started hallucinating because I thought I saw Bob's naked buttocks. Good fun!

Regrets that I missed Tim minchin and the monkey/bird talk... C'est la vie.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: WC on September 24, 2011, 09:17:09 PM
Yay! Totally worth staying up all night :) Missed the last three hours though.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Moloch on September 24, 2011, 09:17:16 PM
Thanks so much for the show! I watched the first 17 hours and tried to wake up for the end but missed it  ???

I enjoyed it so so much, had a really nice, friendly, charming vibe to it. I actually feel sad now it's over, and seeing as how I missed the end.

I say you turn 5x5 into '5 hours with 5 skeptics', and do a monthly broadcast  :D

I know you guys said you'll never do another 24 hours show but I hope you'll reconsider in a month or so once the good memories rise to the surface.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: JuniorSpaceman on September 24, 2011, 09:28:12 PM
Thanks so much to the SGU team for doing this - I only (!) managed to take in about five hours of it, but would love a DVD of it. Well, I did see the very beginning and very end. Pappa Novella was awesome.

I was thinking, during some of the tech problems, that SGU 24 was its own prototype, like the LHC, so it was understandable there would be problems.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: werecow on September 24, 2011, 09:45:10 PM
It was great, guys. Definitely worthy of a repeat sometime, if you're up for it. Cheers! }|:o)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: chionactis on September 24, 2011, 09:58:44 PM
Pappa Novella was awesome.

That was one of my favorite parts. I thought DJ cutting out just as he was about to announce the winner was funny. I also always find Joshie engaging. I like hearing his perspective.

The D&D game was fun too.

I really liked the laid-back conversational vibe, and being able to read everyone's comments as it was happening helped me to feel like I was part of the community. It might sound cheesy, but it's true.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 24, 2011, 10:00:51 PM
They could have gone without the Skeptimeter tho'.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Moloch on September 24, 2011, 10:05:08 PM
The D&D game was fun too.

Oh my god! They did a D&D game!? I think I was the first one to suggest they do that and I didn't even see it  :'(

They even answered a D&D related question of mine about 6 hours in.

Sounds like the left some of the best content for near the end, which makes me sad.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Crystal on September 24, 2011, 10:09:48 PM
That was epic.

Have you considered doing a one-hour video podcast now and then?

I want to see all of your manga drawings, if you ever finished them.

I hope you guys release a video with the highlights.  I wasn't able to take 24 hours out of my life to watch the whole thing, unfortunately.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 24, 2011, 10:40:47 PM
I feel like a spoiled kid who missed Christmas :( :(

I tried connecting to the stream about 50 times during the 24 hours on several different computers. No use. Always freezes after a minute.

Someone dug up technical stuff and apparently justinTV has a very limited bandwith to Europe, and with all that overload the server assumed a DDoS attack and automatically went into defense mode by shutting down the stream every 60 seconds. Apparentley some people in the UK and Scandinavia were able to connect from time to time, but no one from Central Europe to my knowledge.

I guess it's not a big deal since they're called the New England skeptical society and Europe is only a small part of their listener base, but please find a different host for the next show or at least mark it "U.S. only" or something.

Still very disappointed and sad,
Lyk.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Moloch on September 24, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
or at least mark it "U.S. only" or something.

There are other places in the world besides Europe and the U.S.  ;)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Sordid on September 24, 2011, 11:55:14 PM
I guess it's not a big deal

It is to me. I planned to stay up for the whole 24 hours and everything, really looked forward to it, and then this. I wouldn't mind the delays and the technical problems, that's perfectly fine, but the fact that the stream only went for a minute at a time, that was... well like I said, a fucking joke.
If the SGU actually paid for this streaming service, I would recommend that they ask for their money back, becuase that was really shoddy.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: amysrevenge on September 25, 2011, 12:02:51 AM
I got to see the second hour, the second-last hour, and about 6 hours in the middle (exactly as I predicted I would).  I could have seen more, but my brother unexpectedly stopped by for a visit and, while podcasts are good, family is family.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: meisteh on September 25, 2011, 02:29:36 AM
It appears a lot of the footage is available for viewing on the Justin.tv Skeptic's Guide channel, in 3 parts (probably broken up by when their connection went down):

1. http://www.justin.tv/skepticsguide/b/295810261
2. http://www.justin.tv/skepticsguide/b/295824229
3. http://www.justin.tv/skepticsguide/b/295883220

The latter 2 videos are broken down into 2 hour segments, with Part 1, Part 2, etc. listed to the right of the video.

The intro with sound is replayed at about 1:01:15 in this clip (2nd video, Part5):
- http://www.justin.tv/skepticsguide/b/295847379

(Sorry for the lack of embedding or even hyperlinks. The forum keeps screwing them up.)
Title: Re: SGU 24 - footage index
Post by: ttguy on September 25, 2011, 03:08:38 AM
I have started to create a Wiki to go through and index the footage available on Justin TV.

It can be found  here (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/)
I am most interested in Richard Saunders at the momement so I am indexing  Part 3 (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-3) and this has the most filled in example.

I want to crowd source this job. So if you want - connect to http://sgu24index.wikidot.com (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com) and start adding data.

If I see people contributing I will expand what I have started. If people think it is a crap idea or there is already this project started else where then let me know and I will stop.

keywords: SGU24, footage index, justin.tv,24hr show archive footage
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Miisanthrope on September 25, 2011, 03:58:16 AM
Apparentley some people in the UK and Scandinavia were able to connect from time to time, but no one from Central Europe to my knowledge.

I had the same experience as you with the connection, but only tried about a dozen times as I was working all day (company bandwidth is I think intentionally terrible) and then at home my computer stated acting up, so I called it a day. At least compforting to know it wasn't just me.

Just hope it will all be available in smaller chunks to watch or even just listen to later on.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Cybrmynd on September 25, 2011, 05:49:08 AM
I saw sixteen hours of the entire stream and loved all of it. Some of it got mundane, which I had kind of expected considering that it was 24 hours, but it was still great. Cheers SGU.
Title: Re: SGU 24 - footage index
Post by: nine on September 25, 2011, 07:06:05 AM
I have started to create a Wiki to go thought and index the footage available on Justin TV.

It can be found  here (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/)
I am most interested in Richard Saunders at the momement so I am indexing  Part 3 (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-3) and this has the most filled in example.

I want to crowd source this job. So if you want - connect to http://sgu24index.wikidot.com (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com) and start adding data.

If I see people contributing I will expand what I have started. If people think it is a crap idea or there is already this project started else where then let me know and I will stop.

keywords: SGU24, footage index, justin.tv,24hr show archive footage

thanks!  I'm one of those in the '60 seconds stream zone'. Ill be watching soon, uninterrupted.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: TalkingBook on September 25, 2011, 09:06:10 AM
I actually watched almost two hours long while refreshing every 30-60 seconds. Luckily the stream crashed at some point around the 18 hour mark and I got back in while there were only about 200 viewers. Apparently justin .tv only starts handing out those broken connections to non-US viewers trying to connect while there are already a certain amount of total viewers present. Unfortunately I fell asleep for the last two hours.

All in all, the parts I saw were great; the D&D game was hilarious. Thanks to the SGU for a great show, can't wait for next year's SGU48!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Trinoc on September 25, 2011, 09:41:14 AM
I had no problems getting video in the UK, and before the breakdown the quality was very good. Someone on IRC who turns out to live a couple of miles away (in N London) was having problems, though. So, clearly no UK-wide problem with justin.tv, but maybe some ISPs handling the traffic better than others. At a few hundred MB per hour, maybe the big UK ISPs (who are mostly in the pocket of the Copyright MAFIAA) possibly interpreted it as torrenting and throttled down the speed.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: yashichi on September 25, 2011, 09:45:31 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed the SGU24 show. I got away with a small 2-hour nap somewhere in the wee hours, but missed Brian Dunning. :(

Congratulations and thanks to the Rogues and all who helped put it together.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: werecow on September 25, 2011, 10:25:51 AM
Pappa Novella was awesome.

That was one of my favorite parts. I thought DJ cutting out just as he was about to announce the winner was funny. I also always find Joshie engaging. I like hearing his perspective.

The D&D game was fun too.

I really liked the laid-back conversational vibe, and being able to read everyone's comments as it was happening helped me to feel like I was part of the community. It might sound cheesy, but it's true.
I second all of this.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: The God Delusion on September 25, 2011, 10:30:11 AM
What? LOL, how did all of you watch anything? I literally couldn't see anything, it kept freezing every 20 seconds, except when Phil Plait came in i think it lasted for about 30 seconds before freezing again :(
Is there going to be any videos on Youtube?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Moloch on September 25, 2011, 10:33:51 AM
Is there going to be any videos on Youtube?

It's all linked a few posts above (thought not hot-linked). I'm watching the D&D part now  ;D Still sad I missed it.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Moloch on September 25, 2011, 10:43:58 AM
How awesome would it be if you ran quick RPG session, perhaps DnD or Star Trek!? Even if you guys are rusty on the DnD rules I'm sure you must have a friend who still plays that could help out (although I always imagined Steve DM'ing). I would love to see Rebecca playing DnD, hilarity would be guaranteed. My dream would be Phil Plait as DM for a Star Trek roleplaying game session.

Just a quick pre-written module or maybe the DM could whip up a game with a skeptical bent, the heroic 'Rogues' fighting the disgusting monster "Salivier Brown?"

This was my post from the first page  ;D

Not taking credit for the idea but I'm pretty happy they ran it. They even included the 'Salivier Brown!'
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Skeptic on September 25, 2011, 12:09:26 PM
I was in the UK and had no real stream problems.

I hope this is done again but I think a smaller time frame that allows people from around the world to at least catch a good portion before or after the small hours.  12 or 9 hours.  I think tired people presenting and watching diminishes the experience.  I don't want our rogues to suffer particularly.

But this exploration of a new format is worthwhile.  I think it's fair enough also that if you don't have to have a podcast available at the weekend of a live event.  Surely the live event is enough for you guys.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Lyk on September 25, 2011, 12:22:10 PM
What? LOL, how did all of you watch anything? I literally couldn't see anything, it kept freezing every 20 seconds, except when Phil Plait came in i think it lasted for about 30 seconds before freezing again :(
Is there going to be any videos on Youtube?

Again, that issue only affected Europe as far as it seems. The recorded stuff is available on justintv, and runs stable.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Henning on September 25, 2011, 12:55:08 PM
How awesome would it be if you ran quick RPG session, perhaps DnD or Star Trek!? Even if you guys are rusty on the DnD rules I'm sure you must have a friend who still plays that could help out (although I always imagined Steve DM'ing). I would love to see Rebecca playing DnD, hilarity would be guaranteed. My dream would be Phil Plait as DM for a Star Trek roleplaying game session.

Just a quick pre-written module or maybe the DM could whip up a game with a skeptical bent, the heroic 'Rogues' fighting the disgusting monster "Salivier Brown?"

This was my post from the first page  ;D

Not taking credit for the idea but I'm pretty happy they ran it. They even included the 'Salivier Brown!'

That bit was really great. And I do give you and doug massive props.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Johnny Slick on September 25, 2011, 01:07:32 PM
How awesome would it be if you ran quick RPG session, perhaps DnD or Star Trek!? Even if you guys are rusty on the DnD rules I'm sure you must have a friend who still plays that could help out (although I always imagined Steve DM'ing). I would love to see Rebecca playing DnD, hilarity would be guaranteed. My dream would be Phil Plait as DM for a Star Trek roleplaying game session.

Just a quick pre-written module or maybe the DM could whip up a game with a skeptical bent, the heroic 'Rogues' fighting the disgusting monster "Salivier Brown?"

This was my post from the first page  ;D

Not taking credit for the idea but I'm pretty happy they ran it. They even included the 'Salivier Brown!'
Oh! Well... I DEMAND THAT MOLOCH TAKE CREDIT FOR THIS!!!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: mamalujo on September 25, 2011, 01:38:10 PM
What? LOL, how did all of you watch anything? I literally couldn't see anything, it kept freezing every 20 seconds, except when Phil Plait came in i think it lasted for about 30 seconds before freezing again :(
Is there going to be any videos on Youtube?

Again, that issue only affected Europe as far as it seems. The recorded stuff is available on justintv, and runs stable.

I had the issue too (in Europe), but didn't find it terrible - losing a few seconds on a reload every minute or so usually didn't involve missing anything relevant; the show wasn't that information dense. And just hitting F5 when it (repeatedly) goes blank was trivial.


How awesome would it be if you ran quick RPG session, perhaps DnD or Star Trek!? Even if you guys are rusty on the DnD rules I'm sure you must have a friend who still plays that could help out (although I always imagined Steve DM'ing). I would love to see Rebecca playing DnD, hilarity would be guaranteed. My dream would be Phil Plait as DM for a Star Trek roleplaying game session.

Just a quick pre-written module or maybe the DM could whip up a game with a skeptical bent, the heroic 'Rogues' fighting the disgusting monster "Salivier Brown?"

This was my post from the first page :D

Not taking credit for the idea but I'm pretty happy they ran it. They even included the 'Salivier Brown!'

it was an amazingly good game! They MUST, absolutely MUST put those rules/spells they used online!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: thelaughingdog on September 25, 2011, 01:44:06 PM
It appears a lot of the footage is available for viewing on the Justin.tv Skeptic's Guide channel, in 3 parts (probably broken up by when their connection went down):

1. http://www.justin.tv/skepticsguide/b/295810261
2. http://www.justin.tv/skepticsguide/b/295824229
3. http://www.justin.tv/skepticsguide/b/295883220

The latter 2 videos are broken down into 2 hour segments, with Part 1, Part 2, etc. listed to the right of the video.

The intro with sound is replayed at about 1:01:15 in this clip (2nd video, Part5):
- http://www.justin.tv/skepticsguide/b/295847379

(Sorry for the lack of embedding or even hyperlinks. The forum keeps screwing them up.)

What a fabulous idea!  I'm happy to help.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: WC on September 25, 2011, 02:49:38 PM
I missed the much hyped intro  :( Anyone know if it's on the tubes?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Skeptic on September 25, 2011, 03:00:41 PM
Oh yeah I got a small thrill when they laughed about me accusing them of being like the hippies in Star Trek as they played George's instruments infront of that background console. What is nice is that they didn't all eat poisoned fruit at the end of it.  Those space apples probably have too much arsenic in them.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: ttguy on September 25, 2011, 06:15:10 PM

What a fabulous idea!  I'm happy to help.


Are you volunteering for the SGU 24 index project ?  If so you can just go do it. I have opened up editing to anoymous users at http://sgu24index.wikidot.com (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com)


ekmo has done part 5.
I have done part 3 and am working on part 4

And there are 12 parts to index.

So go go go :-)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Shadow Of A Doubt on September 25, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Hi

I just registered to congratulate the rogues cos that was fairly epic! I've listened to the show for a few years and really appreciate all the effort you/they put in.

I missed the reveal of the first science or fiction because of the technical issues does anyone remember which was the fiction?

Also, i was glad that steve's servant in the intro video turned out to actually be his daughter otherwise that would have been a bit weird!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: The God Delusion on September 25, 2011, 07:10:09 PM
What? LOL, how did all of you watch anything? I literally couldn't see anything, it kept freezing every 20 seconds, except when Phil Plait came in i think it lasted for about 30 seconds before freezing again :(
Is there going to be any videos on Youtube?

Again, that issue only affected Europe as far as it seems. The recorded stuff is available on justintv, and runs stable.

I am not from Europe, other continents were affected too, i hope the videos come up on Youtube.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: AQB24712 on September 25, 2011, 08:43:01 PM
I missed the much hyped intro  :( Anyone know if it's on the tubes?

They said several times that it would be posted on YouTube.  Worth seeing, for sure.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on September 25, 2011, 08:53:46 PM
Here's (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSkepticsGuide) the SGU's YouTube channel. Nothing has been uploaded to it in quite a while.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: The Latinist on September 25, 2011, 10:39:36 PM
So was the 24-hr show recorded and archived for posterity?  And will those of us who had to work and take care of sick children on Saturday/Sunday get to see it?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: WC on September 25, 2011, 10:46:17 PM
So was the 24-hr show recorded and archived for posterity?  And will those of us who had to work and take care of sick children on Saturday/Sunday get to see it?
http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/ (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/)

*EDIT- changed link to something that works :) Thanks meisteh.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chef Fincher on September 26, 2011, 12:44:54 AM
I had so much fun during this event.  It was really a great idea.  Thanks again so much for everyone who helped put it together.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: meisteh on September 26, 2011, 06:06:53 AM
I missed the much hyped intro  :( Anyone know if it's on the tubes?

Try here: http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-5 (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-5) at 01:01:30

(as posted previously by ttguy)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: meisteh on September 26, 2011, 06:10:26 AM
So was the 24-hr show recorded and archived for posterity?  And will those of us who had to work and take care of sick children on Saturday/Sunday get to see it?

(archives to segments after the jump)

(click to show/hide)

Check your link/video. That's the same problem I had embedding and including links, it changes them to the general skepticsguide channel :/

The best place to check out the footage is the newly created wiki:

I have started to create a Wiki to go through and index the footage available on Justin TV.

It can be found  here (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: WC on September 26, 2011, 12:01:33 PM
So was the 24-hr show recorded and archived for posterity?  And will those of us who had to work and take care of sick children on Saturday/Sunday get to see it?

(archives to segments after the jump)

(click to show/hide)

Check your link/video. That's the same problem I had embedding and including links, it changes them to the general skepticsguide channel :/

The best place to check out the footage is the newly created wiki:

I have started to create a Wiki to go through and index the footage available on Justin TV.

It can be found  here (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/)
Ah. I see, thanks :)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: The God Delusion on September 28, 2011, 12:59:56 AM
Thank you so much to the person that linked the index, i can finally watch the show  :) :) :)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: ttguy on September 29, 2011, 05:27:40 AM
I hope people are finding the  Wiki (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com) indexing the 24hr show useful. 

But I must say this crowd sourcing thing is not as good as I hoped  :(. It has just been me and greenbeans doing any indexing work - apart from a handful of anonymous edits. 

So if you are watching on a page that does not have much indexing - consider adding to the data !!  :)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: WC on September 29, 2011, 10:51:22 AM
Would love to help, but don't know how to.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Skeptic on September 29, 2011, 02:50:22 PM
I hope people are finding the  Wiki (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com) indexing the 24hr show useful. 

But I must say this crowd sourcing thing is not as good as I hoped  :(. It has just been me and greenbeans doing any indexing work - apart from a handful of anonymous edits. 

So if you are watching on a page that does not have much indexing - consider adding to the data !!  :)

I'll be watching the bits I slept through and will be updating.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: ttguy on September 30, 2011, 09:46:49 AM
Would love to help, but don't know how to.
Pretty easy
Go to the page
Hit the edit link
Copy one row of the table
Paste the row
Edit the row
save the page
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: ttguy on October 01, 2011, 08:33:08 PM
At 0:33:00 in http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-0 (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-0) Steve does a Science or Fiction. And says they will do the answers after Adam Savage has appeared on the show. Then half way through Adam's bit the feed crashes.  And so far I don't know where they actually do the answers for Steves science or fiction.  Does anybody know if they did do the answers for science or fiction? If so at what time?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on October 01, 2011, 08:40:31 PM
At 0:33:00 in http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-0 (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-0) Steve does a Science or Fiction. And says they will do the answers after Adam Savage has appeared on the show. Then half way through Adam's bit the feed crashes.  And so far I don't know where they actually do the answers for Steves science or fiction.  Does anybody know if they did do the answers for science or fiction? If so at what time?

They did reveal the answers but I don't know when. But I do remember is was very shortly after they got back their internet connection.

Steve Rebecca did that SoF.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: The God Delusion on October 01, 2011, 10:39:21 PM
A little out of topic, but does anyone know when will the TAM 2011 amazing meeting DVD be out?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Shadow Of A Doubt on October 02, 2011, 07:12:08 AM
At 0:33:00 in http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-0 (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/part-0) Steve does a Science or Fiction. And says they will do the answers after Adam Savage has appeared on the show. Then half way through Adam's bit the feed crashes.  And so far I don't know where they actually do the answers for Steves science or fiction.  Does anybody know if they did do the answers for science or fiction? If so at what time?

They did reveal the answers but I don't know when. But I do remember is was very shortly after they got back their internet connection.

Steve Rebecca did that SoF.

Wasn't that the SoF they used on the latest podcast? So they must have revealed the answers on the show.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: rlquinn1980 on October 20, 2011, 05:03:37 AM
Anyone have a copy of the intro? Or was it ever displayed with working audio?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on October 20, 2011, 09:46:05 AM
Here: http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,36115.msg9074881.html#msg9074881 (http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,36115.msg9074881.html#msg9074881)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: cshorey on October 24, 2011, 10:10:08 PM
If you get the mini-pony to the set I will ride that fucker!
Just wanted to quote it.  That's all.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: rlquinn1980 on November 12, 2011, 05:20:59 PM
Here: http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,36115.msg9074881.html#msg9074881 (http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,36115.msg9074881.html#msg9074881)

Thank you!

edit: Oh, goody. It's not working. :(
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on November 12, 2011, 05:27:20 PM
Here: http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,36115.msg9074881.html#msg9074881 (http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,36115.msg9074881.html#msg9074881)

Thank you!

edit: Oh, goody. It's not working. :(

It works for me.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: rlquinn1980 on November 12, 2011, 08:09:44 PM
It works for me.

Um, good for you, but it doesn't help me much. :( Any idea what I'm missing on my end? Is justin.tv browser picky? The advert loaded fine. My pop ups are not turned off (I don't even have any addons/widgets running at the moment). Past the ad, it won't play.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Chew on November 12, 2011, 08:17:51 PM
It works for me.

Um, good for you, but it doesn't help me much. :( Any idea what I'm missing on my end? Is justin.tv browser picky? The advert loaded fine. My pop ups are not turned off (I don't even have any addons/widgets running at the moment). Past the ad, it won't play.

It works in Firefox and I use adblock in Firefox. Works in IE, too.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Kay-Ole on April 09, 2015, 01:51:35 AM
Justin.TV is no more. Any chance the vidoes from SGU24 will ever come back online somewhere? Im going through all of the episodes from before I descovered SGU, and am quickly coming up to september 2011, in wich the SGU24-show is mentioned time and time again. I would love to see it!
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Raxabaka on April 10, 2015, 12:35:26 PM
Adding my request to Kay-Ole. I only discovered SGU last year and I'm now past the point of them mentioning SGU 24 but I could not find a copy of the videos online. Does anyone have a copy that they can stick up on a fileshare somewhere?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Eternally Learning on April 10, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
I seem to recall several requests for being able to find this online afterwards and not having much luck.  When it aired, it was plagued (at least initially from what I remember) with technical issues making it impossible to catch the opening among other parts so a lot of people were clamoring it for it.  I don't know why they don't just update it to Youtube or something, but unfortunately I think they've chosen not to make it available.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: werecow on April 10, 2015, 07:16:40 PM
I did record an mp3 of that show. It should have most of it. It's a rough recording though, no editing (I think I lost the connection once or twice, and there was no audio at the beginning because of aforementioned technical issues), and obviously no video. But I'd be willing to upload that somewhere if the rogues don't object. Just not sure where.
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: snowy on May 02, 2015, 12:25:47 AM
I have all 13 videos that were hosted at http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/ (http://sgu24index.wikidot.com/) (5.2GB of FLV files). Could upload them to Mega next week, or some other place that doesn't require a paid account if anyone has any suggestions.

BTW, where's the SGU10 thread? That's what I was searching for when I landed here...
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: werecow on May 02, 2015, 11:36:34 AM
Don't know about the thread. but the show will be here it seems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cejz0ioUs0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cejz0ioUs0&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: Raxabaka on June 29, 2015, 04:59:48 PM
Hey Snowy

If you could upload those somewhere, that would be fantastic. Not sure if the Rogues would have an issue with it. Still waiting for more than Part 1 of SGU10 to come out
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: rwh on August 04, 2015, 03:03:12 AM
I also have the original FLV files and I've just given a copy to Jay, who is going to put them up on the SGU YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSkepticsGuide).  In the meantime, here's my YouTube playlist (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoVgWnyCw0BPBRciJbU6IPTYf7jGknEtE).  There's also links to audio and stuff on the SGUTranscripts page (http://www.sgutranscripts.org/wiki/SGU_24hr).
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: ReliefTwitcher on August 09, 2015, 04:14:39 PM
Perhaps you should have a doctor on hand, a neurologist perhaps, just to make sure none of you suffer brain damage.

And a Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy chamber, in case you do!

By the way, I have been hearing very professional-sounding ads lately on my local radio station touting all the ailments that can be treated by HBOT, including autism.  Perhaps you could devote some time to the topic of ethics in the advertising of pseudo-scientific treatments.  I have not heard any disclaimers in these ads that would indicate that this treatment is anything other than standard conventional medicine.  How does the fact that HBOT does have some legitimate uses factor into the equation?
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: ReliefTwitcher on August 10, 2015, 08:42:46 PM
Perhaps you should have a doctor on hand, a neurologist perhaps, just to make sure none of you suffer brain damage.

And a Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy chamber, in case you do!

By the way, I have been hearing very professional-sounding ads lately on my local radio station touting all the ailments that can be treated by HBOT, including autism.  Perhaps you could devote some time to the topic of ethics in the advertising of pseudo-scientific treatments.  I have not heard any disclaimers in these ads that would indicate that this treatment is anything other than standard conventional medicine.  How does the fact that HBOT does have some legitimate uses factor into the equation?

Son of a...I read the original post and got all excited about another 24-hour marathon coming up in September!  I just now noticed the 2011 time stamp.   ::)  I'm not stupid, just a little slow.  lol
Title: Re: SGU 24
Post by: UnicornPoop on August 22, 2015, 07:19:20 PM



Son of a...I read the original post and got all excited about another 24-hour marathon coming up in September!  I just now noticed the 2011 time stamp.   ::)  I'm not stupid, just a little slow.  lol


I just did the same. Was ready to post "I'm there!! Need any help?"




-UPC