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Title: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: God Bomb on December 13, 2016, 11:04:26 PM
inspired by the porn chat on latest podcast.

I used to watch a lot of porn, when I was single, i'd spend my evenings getting more and more porn. 

Eventually it got boring, probably due to over-exposure, becoming desensitized etc, but also because the porn industry is just incredibly unoriginal and too low-budget.

The porn feature films all had terrible plots and acting, they were largely replaced by gonzo porn, which if anything is a step backward.  Sure you got more action, but there was no plot at all.  I prefer both.

And for years that's all it has been.  The same scenes but with different actors/actresses.  The only new stuff is certain niches have expanded, and now we have porn parodies.  Besides that, there's zero point in producing new porn, they literally are just carbon copy scenes with different people.

There's only a few things that I found genuinely 'interesting' over the last few years, some of it from Japan, not because they have super weird stuff, but because most JAV productions have some kind of story.  Since there's a limited amount of things people can do to each other sexually, it has to come back to the story or the character.   

Mostly what we have today are just 'models', instead of 'characters'.  That's the first problem.

The second is the lack of innovation in technique, and failing to make the most of a scene.  It's usually one guy with a handheld filming the whole thing.  The scenes lack direction, editing, performances range from unbearably annoying to occasionally brilliant.  They rush everything, some scenes are literally 2 people show up, bang, and done go shower.  A good porn should be like an action film, there should be slow motion and explosions (figurative) etc.

I understand most of this comes back to budget and a lot of people simply aren't willing to buy porn.  But it is what it is.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 14, 2016, 06:34:42 AM
Perhaps give audio porn a try.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: HanEyeAm on December 14, 2016, 08:06:07 AM
What you are describing sounds like erotica with a money shot. P*** certainly takes many forms, and hit our brains in slightly different ways.

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Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: brilligtove on December 14, 2016, 09:57:06 AM
We still look at porn occasionally, but mostly read erotic stories instead.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: daniel1948 on December 14, 2016, 10:19:46 AM
I never watch porn videos, for all the reasons noted above. I do look at pictures, sometimes of people having sex, sometimes of naked models, and sometimes just a pretty face, probably in equal proportions. I use my imagination to create a story.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: nokrizz on December 14, 2016, 01:29:47 PM
The lack of imagination of porn producers makes people turn their back on porn. That's the saddest story I ever heard! Who could imagine that? The matter definitely required more thorough investigation and should be discussed in depth. I can't address all of the problems of the porn industry in this post, but I wanna focus on one specific issue. I've never thought of that, but now you mentioned it and it struck me, the absence of explosions in porn is a real bummer. So what can be done to fix that particular issue? Well, off the top of my head, we can involve Michael Bay. This fella sure can make some quality explosions, but this ain't gonna be cheap. So...

Let's make porn great again and make Mexico pay for it!
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: God Bomb on December 14, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
The lack of imagination of porn producers makes people turn their back on porn. That's the saddest story I ever heard! Who could imagine that? The matter definitely required more thorough investigation and should be discussed in depth. I can't address all of the problems of the porn industry in this post, but I wanna focus on one specific issue. I've never thought of that, but now you mentioned it and it struck me, the absence of explosions in porn is a real bummer. So what can be done to fix that particular issue? Well, off the top of my head, we can involve Michael Bay. This fella sure can make some quality explosions, but this ain't gonna be cheap. So...

Let's make porn great again and make Mexico pay for it!

If Michael Bay made porn it would probably be fucking epic.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: Tassie Dave on December 14, 2016, 10:38:28 PM
If Michael Bay made porn it would probably be fucking epic fucking.

 ;D
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: brilligtove on December 14, 2016, 11:55:21 PM
If Michael Bay made porn it would probably be fucking epic fucking.

 ;D

No no no.

Michael Bay is the king of big explosions and "there was a plot?" already. If he does porn it will be firehouse cumshots and squirts that swamp Seattle.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: God Bomb on December 15, 2016, 12:35:31 AM
A michael-bay-calibre plot and acting would already be like watching Daniel Day Lewis fucking compared to what they have now.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: Gerbig on December 18, 2016, 08:59:37 PM
I usually just watch amateur stuff. Its still put on, and still seems like they are exaggerating for effect, but not nearly to the level that professional porn stars do.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: brilligtove on December 19, 2016, 12:57:51 AM
Yeah acting for cameras requires surprisingly understated and subtle body language. Not at all like acting for the stage.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: Harry Black on December 19, 2016, 04:29:12 AM
I enjoy watching people fuck. So to me, none of the production values or style issues or anything really bother me.
I just like to see people who enjoy sex, having sex. Now granted, that does preclude about 95℅ of all porn, but when I want to find something to enjoy, I usually can.
I tend to focus on individual personalities. I see a girl who seems interesting and check out interviews with her and if she still seems cool then I spend some effort finding her scenes.
The idea of just going to pornhub and hitting a random thumbnail has no appeal to me.

One thing I still enjoy as a holdover from dirty comics as a kid, is reading absurd comedic comicbook porn. Most of that is pretty gross though and again, takes far too long to find something I like.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: MikeHz on December 19, 2016, 09:44:00 AM
I think that if you have enough sex, and enough good sex, then you really don't have much desire to watch pornography. I have no strong objection against porn; or at least, most of it, though I do not at all care for some of the more graphic and extreme stuff (which, at least for me, has the very opposite effect). I do have concern for younger people who, as pointed out on the episode, get a skewed view of sex.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: David "Stubb" Oswald on December 19, 2016, 10:14:46 AM
It is boring. It is repetitive. It does give you an unrealistic expectation about sex. I do think it does objectify woman as women in most porn seem to have a fake orgasm right when they summed on by the man. Some porn does care about the perspective an pleasure of the woman but most porn lives in world where women are only present to satisfy a man's need. Sex is like dancing. I seem to have more fun when my partner and I are concerned about the others enjoyment and we work towards a common goal.

I avoid porn, I do think in most forms it is bad for society. I guess a similar argument would be "I avoid movies because Michael Bay is bad for society".
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: moj on December 19, 2016, 10:28:11 AM
I watch a lot less than when I was single but am a supporter of it as a whole. That doesn’t mean I support or like all the porn, just its right to exist. Like Harry said, I like to watch people bang who like to bang. I don’t like the degrading stuff but is pretty easy to avoid by searching for things I like.  I don’t care at all for plot or story and really don’t want any of it. Porn has gotten super-efficient at cramming as much sex as it can into a scene and prefer it that way. If I’m watching porn I don’t really want to spend hours at it, I’ve got other things to do.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: GodSlayer on December 19, 2016, 07:20:33 PM
I never really watched a lot of 'porn'.
but I can perv on tumblr jpegs/gifs for hours.

the lack of motion and sound make it way less real/arousing. like someone suggested, 'audio porn' is a wonderful thing, especially of a girl you're particularly fond of. I don't know if it's just my senses, but it seems less...removed. like, sight is distant, sound is quite intimate, and touch is obviously very intimate. but is that merely because I've _seen_ well over a million pictures of chicks in my time, but not _heard_ millions of orgasms or brought millions of women to orgasm? are all things equal sensorally, separated only by novelty?
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: 2397 on December 25, 2016, 03:43:32 PM
It is boring. It is repetitive. It does give you an unrealistic expectation about sex. I do think it does objectify woman as women in most porn seem to have a fake orgasm right when they summed on by the man. Some porn does care about the perspective an pleasure of the woman but most porn lives in world where women are only present to satisfy a man's need. Sex is like dancing. I seem to have more fun when my partner and I are concerned about the others enjoyment and we work towards a common goal.

I avoid porn, I do think in most forms it is bad for society. I guess a similar argument would be "I avoid movies because Michael Bay is bad for society".

Yeah, that was my thinking reading through your post. I don't see the unrealistic expectation being about porn, but about lack of knowledge. If people think sex is exactly like in porn, the problem isn't porn. Unrealistic expectations is in all types of entertainment. It's fine to have superhero movies. It's fine to have cartoons with talking plants and sentient inanimate objects. Most people are able to set those apart from what's real, or are able to transfer the meaning to what's real, even if they like to indulge in the fantasy.

If people want to watch porn, maybe it's because of something they're not having realized, but the porn doesn't have to be a substitute for what is realizable. If you don't have your own personal harem, and you like the idea of it, porn might be a useful sensory aid. It doesn't have to impact anything else.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: 2397 on December 25, 2016, 04:02:57 PM
inspired by the porn chat on latest podcast.

I used to watch a lot of porn, when I was single, i'd spend my evenings getting more and more porn. 

Eventually it got boring, probably due to over-exposure, becoming desensitized etc, but also because the porn industry is just incredibly unoriginal and too low-budget.

[...]

I understand most of this comes back to budget and a lot of people simply aren't willing to buy porn.  But it is what it is.

I personally prefer no-budget pornographic material. I sometimes think even non-realistic* drawings are better than looking at paid actors with artificially altered bodies. I guess because it leaves more to the imagination, and makes it more mentally malleable.

*Not in the sense of enormous organs or tentacles and such. But if that is what you're looking for, there's more room for that with drawings and animation, than with low-budget live action content.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: Andrew Clunn on December 25, 2016, 05:32:13 PM
I think the porn industry has a much healthier view of beauty and human bodies than most other TV and entertainment industries.  I think some of the "degrading stuff" are things that people genuinely like and have had enough sexual partners with varied enough tastes to not be so quick to dismiss a particular form of porn as appealing to only one gender.  I feel as though porn is largely practically used to either get in the mood, give people ideas for sex, or as a masturbation aid.  I am entirely shocked by the lack of POV porn where the camera is tracking the woman's line of sight during an encounter and think this could be the next big thing.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: GodSlayer on December 26, 2016, 02:05:27 AM
I am entirely shocked by the lack of POV porn where the camera is tracking the woman's line of sight during an encounter and think this could be the next big thing.

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Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: SnarlPatrick on January 11, 2017, 09:38:08 AM
The proliferation of "tube sites" has led to a number of creative and compelling couples, and small time niche productions which don't suffer from the "industry" tropes you are complaining of.
Title: Re: Why I rarely watch porn anymore
Post by: Gerbig on January 11, 2017, 12:06:23 PM
The proliferation of "tube sites" has led to a number of creative and compelling couples, and small time niche productions which don't suffer from the "industry" tropes you are complaining of.

Yea, you can subscribe to amateur channels like you can with youtube. Finding them is a bit challenging, as im never really sure what I might be into, but once you do you get notified of their new videos etc.