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Quote from: randomv3 on Today at 02:00:12 PM

Hey all,

I was encouraged to join these boards by a member I met recently.

I was raised in Oklahoma and have lived in Texas for the last 5 years.  I've called myself an atheist and a skeptic for 4 years or so but I think the titles fit my whole life, I just didn't know how to label myself.  I'm moderately active with the Houston Atheists which has helps me maintain (at least a little) sanity living in a fairly religious area.  I'm 28, geophysicist, and pretty nerdy in general.  I sit in front of a computer all day for work so forums help pass the slow days

 

You were my prime suspect.

He obviously needs to practice his covert ninja skills a bit more.

You know those Texas guys. They aren't very subtle. 

Now go out and "cause a ruckus" like you promised. 

so.many.emoticons....

Premise one: People want to be treated the way they want to be treated. This is A =A.

Premise two: In order to obey the golden you have to treat people the way you want to be treated.

Conclusion: You need to treat others the way they want to be treated

Premise 1:                    People want to be treated the way they want to be treated.
Premise 1, examples:   Gallant wants fist-bumps.  Goofus wants headbutts.  (Many doctors' offices with Highlights magazines...)
Premise 2:                    In order to obey the Golden Rule, you have to treat people the way you want to be treated.
Premise 2, restated:     In order to obey the Golden Rule, Gallant should treat people the way Gallant wants to be treated.  Goofus should treat people the way Goofus wants to be treated.
Conclusion:                  Gallant should initiate fist-bumps with Goofus.  Goofus should initiate headbutts with Gallant.
Post Conclusion:          Gallant will be left hanging, with a bruised forehead.  Goofus will probably laugh.
False Conclusion 1:      Gallant should initiate headbutts with Goofus.  Goofus should initiate fist-bumps with Gallant.
False Conclusion 2:      Gallant should be willing to accept headbutts from Goofus.  Goofus should be willing to accept fist-bumps from Gallant.


Meta Conclusion 1:      Premises 1 & 2, as stated, does not advocate, explicitly or implicitly, anything about the other person's wants.
Meta Conclusion 2:      Mutually exclusive choices can be painful.


Side Observation:        Spell check recognizes headbutt and Gallant, but not Goofus.

Quote from: Skulker on Today at 02:47:19 PM

Quote from: EhJayArr on Today at 02:32:04 PM

Quote from: randomv3 on Today at 02:00:12 PM

Hey all,

I was encouraged to join these boards by a member I met recently.

I was raised in Oklahoma and have lived in Texas for the last 5 years.  I've called myself an atheist and a skeptic for 4 years or so but I think the titles fit my whole life, I just didn't know how to label myself.  I'm moderately active with the Houston Atheists which has helps me maintain (at least a little) sanity living in a fairly religious area.  I'm 28, geophysicist, and pretty nerdy in general.  I sit in front of a computer all day for work so forums help pass the slow days

 

You were my prime suspect.

He obviously needs to practice his covert ninja skills a bit more.

You know those Texas guys. They aren't very subtle. 

Now go out and "cause a ruckus" like you promised. 

I've read I am one. It like atheist harps on what we don't believe rather than what I do. And while I agree with what they propose it doesn't encompass my moral code.

I don't see how you got that from:

The philosophy or life stance of secular humanism ... embraces human reason, ethics, social justice and philosophical naturalism, while specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience or superstition as the basis of morality and decision making.

It doesn't encompass every little thing that I believe to be true, either, but if you're looking for something that all-encompassing, you're tilting at windmills, bro.

Like, for real, it embraces ethics and human reason! ffs, how much broader can you get?!

The one that's universal is the valid one.

Why?