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Hello All.

I've been an avid follower of the SGU podcast for a couple of years. I've lurked here occasionally but mainly spend time at the Richard Dawkins forums, which in addition to atheism have an extensive section on debunking the paranormal.

Yesterday the head tech guy, josh, went mad and shut down the whole forum and perma-banned a load of mods, deleting over 30k posts devoted to science and rational thinking, which has understandably got the community up in arms.

If anyone is interested in the death of one of the busiest skeptical forums on the web, here is a mods take on it :

http://realityismyreligion.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/locked-entry-will-open-soon/#more-156

If anyone wants to join in the discussion there is a whole section devoted to it on www.rationality.com


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Sorry to hear your troubles. Did the team consider a black background? I'm sorry that was an inside poke at our mods and frequent posters. Your post again makes me very thankful that our mods are great and put in so much work for so much bitching as compensation. We will love to give you a home.
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I commented about this on facebook, but as a moderator of this forum, I have to say I completely sympathize with the moderators of the Dawkins forum.  Community is important, and I would hate to see our community destroyed simply because it got too big.
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Thanks all

The mods were fantastic over there, but this whole thing was treated in such a terrible way by the guys actually paid to run the website.

They walked all over the dedicated mod team with no warning at all. Fair enough it is their forums, but to ban us from even trying to organize to go elsewhere, to the point of turning off signatures in the locked forum just because some had linked to rationalia as a new meeting point beggars belief.

And then to delete over 30k posts from some of the most scientifically knowledgeable people on the forums for expressing dissent just smacks of spite, plain and simple, they could have just banned them to keep them quiet, no need to delete 3 years of posts before they could archive them.

Anyway, sorry it took drama to get me on here, like I say I'm an avid fan of the SGU Podcast, and once this drama dies down I'll be posting on here more often.


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Community is an important factor here too, and you are encouraged to both advertise the new place for Dawkins expatriates to gather, and to stay here a while and get to know us!
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Wow that really blows man.  Never hung out there, but it sounds like it was a great place.  I have had forums ripped out from under me before, though, and it's never fun.  I can't imagine what they're trying to accomplish by this.  I've heard a lot of BS in the past about forum alternatives that are shiny and better... but it never pans out.  And people leave. 

Well, more posters here maybe.

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Update: 2010-02-22 We had intended to leave the forum fully-funtioning for 30 days, but due to the inappropriate posts by some users and moderators, we have decided to leave the forum in a read-only state. You can still download and archive your posts and private messages, but the ability to enter new posts has been disabled. It's unfortunate that it had to come to this. We know that change can be difficult and sometimes frightening, but we are all very excited about the direction of the website and the future.

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Dear forum members,

We wanted you all to know at the earliest opportunity about our new website currently in development. RichardDawkins.net will have a new look and feel, improved security, and much more. Visits to the site have really grown over the past 3 1/2 years, and this update gives us an opportunity to address several issues. Over the years we've become one of the world's leading resources for breaking rational and scientific news and original content. We are focusing on quality content distribution, and will be bringing more original articles, video and other content as we grow.

The new RichardDawkins.net will have a fully-integrated discussion section. This will be a new feature for the site, similar to the current forum, but not identical. We feel the new system will be much cleaner and easier to use, and hopefully this will encourage participation from a wider variety of users.

We will leave the current forum up for 30 days, giving regular users an opportunity to locally archive any content they value. When the new website goes live, you are welcome to submit these posts as new discussions. The forum will then be taken down from the web. You will not loose your username on the new system.

The new discussion area will not be a new forum. It will be different. We will be using a system of tags to categorize items, instead of sub-forums. Discussions can have multiple tags, such as "Education", "Children", and "Critical Thinking". Starting a new discussion will require approval, so we ask that you only submit new discussions that are truly relevant to reason and science. Subsequent responses on the thread will not need approval—however anything off topic or violating the new terms of service will be removed. The approval process will be there to ensure the quality of posts on the site. This is purely an editorial exercise to help new visitors find quality content quickly. We hope this discussion area will reflect the foundation's goals and values.

We know that this is a big decision. We know some of you will be against this change. We ask that you respect our decision and help make this transition as smooth as possible.

We're confident that these changes will improve the site experience and we look forward to seeing what you do with the new system.

Many thanks again.

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We will love to give you a home.

+1!  We'd be happy to have a new influx of members.
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Careful there.  You don't know what you are saying. 
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Excepting you of course  ;) woo practitioners don't last long. Fact I wish more showed up.
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I came here from the Dawkins forum.  It was over run with woo and religion.

And fucked up moderation.
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I came here from the Dawkins forum.  It was over run with woo and religion.

And fucked up moderation.

Atheists aren't necessarily skeptics.
"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." Lewis Carroll

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I came here from the Dawkins forum.  It was over run with woo and religion.

And fucked up moderation.

Atheists aren't necessarily skeptics.

Or vice versa.

The thing to remember is that this forum is mainly to provide a community for the listeners of the SGU podcast.  People who don't listen to the podcast are welcome, but irrelevant drama such as carrying over a bickerfest from a different forum is not.
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I came here from the Dawkins forum.  It was over run with woo and religion.

And fucked up moderation.

Atheists aren't necessarily skeptics.

Or vice versa.

The thing to remember is that this forum is mainly to provide a community for the listeners of the SGU podcast.  People who don't listen to the podcast are welcome, but irrelevant drama such as carrying over a bickerfest from a different forum is not.

Are you getting nervous?
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Beleth,

That is some sage wisdom.  I'm going to shut my big mouth for a while and go listen to some podcasts.

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