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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #885 on: March 29, 2020, 11:51:19 AM »

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If the contract had said as soon as it's ripe, then yes. But it just said when it's ripe, and that could mean anytime after it's first ripe and before it goes to seed.
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Emphasis mine. "Going to seed" is what you want the wheat crop to do, since it's the seeds that you harvest. You cannot harvest the wheat before it goes to seed, unless you're just harvesting the grass (wheat is a grass) for hay. I've never heard of anyone harvesting wheat for hay.

Not exactly. When a crop has gone to seed that means the grains are dropping from the plant to be seeds.

Nope. That's not what it means. Some plants are harvested for their leaves or stalks, which are not usable or are not desirable after the plant begins to produce seeds. Going to seed means that the plant has begun that process.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #886 on: March 29, 2020, 12:02:01 PM »

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If the contract had said as soon as it's ripe, then yes. But it just said when it's ripe, and that could mean anytime after it's first ripe and before it goes to seed.
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Emphasis mine. "Going to seed" is what you want the wheat crop to do, since it's the seeds that you harvest. You cannot harvest the wheat before it goes to seed, unless you're just harvesting the grass (wheat is a grass) for hay. I've never heard of anyone harvesting wheat for hay.

Not exactly. When a crop has gone to seed that means the grains are dropping from the plant to be seeds.

Nope. That's not what it means. Some plants are harvested for their leaves or stalks, which are not usable or are not desirable after the plant begins to produce seeds. Going to seed means that the plant has begun that process.
First definition from google: ”gone to seed" refers to the stage in gardening in which the flowers are not blooming and the leaves have fallen off the trees, like during the winter.”

In Colorado where I worked on farms and ranches, gone to seed meant the crop had stood too long. Seeds were literally falling to the ground.

But, even if the term gone to seed isn’t correct for North Dakota wheat, the point is to harvest while it is still harvestable. 


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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #887 on: March 29, 2020, 12:13:47 PM »
My understanding of "gone to seed" is that it refers to the period when the plant switches from leaf and flower production to the production of seeds.  For some non-grain crops, that means that it is past time to harvest (once certain herbs go to seed, the weed is useless); for grain crops, though, that means that it will soon be time to harvest. I do not think that for grain crops "go to seed" means be past the time of harvest. At least that was my experience growing up in Vermont.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #888 on: March 29, 2020, 06:37:18 PM »
My understanding of "gone to seed" is that it refers to the period when the plant switches from leaf and flower production to the production of seeds.  For some non-grain crops, that means that it is past time to harvest (once certain herbs go to seed, the weed is useless); for grain crops, though, that means that it will soon be time to harvest. I do not think that for grain crops "go to seed" means be past the time of harvest. At least that was my experience growing up in Vermont.

Fair enough. I didn't think that was a technical term, but rather a general description of when something has gone beyond the point of being harvestable.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #889 on: March 29, 2020, 09:25:59 PM »
I wish we could let small miss steps go on this BB.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #890 on: March 29, 2020, 09:26:34 PM »
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #891 on: March 29, 2020, 09:28:06 PM »
My understanding of "gone to seed" is that it refers to the period when the plant switches from leaf and flower production to the production of seeds.  For some non-grain crops, that means that it is past time to harvest (once certain herbs go to seed, the weed is useless); for grain crops, though, that means that it will soon be time to harvest. I do not think that for grain crops "go to seed" means be past the time of harvest. At least that was my experience growing up in Vermont.

Fair enough. I didn't think that was a technical term, but rather a general description of when something has gone beyond the point of being harvestable.

Nope. It means that the plant has started to produce seeds, which renders some plants undesirable. The expression "gone to seed" is not used for crops where the seeds are what's harvested. In those crops you's say that it's starting to produce. And after that, ripening. And finally ripe.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #892 on: March 29, 2020, 09:40:29 PM »
My understanding of "gone to seed" is that it refers to the period when the plant switches from leaf and flower production to the production of seeds.  For some non-grain crops, that means that it is past time to harvest (once certain herbs go to seed, the weed is useless); for grain crops, though, that means that it will soon be time to harvest. I do not think that for grain crops "go to seed" means be past the time of harvest. At least that was my experience growing up in Vermont.

Fair enough. I didn't think that was a technical term, but rather a general description of when something has gone beyond the point of being harvestable.

Nope. It means that the plant has started to produce seeds, which renders some plants undesirable. The expression "gone to seed" is not used for crops where the seeds are what's harvested. In those crops you's say that it's starting to produce. And after that, ripening. And finally ripe.
Ok post a link to a definition and We can move on. Actually we can move on anyway.


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« Reply #893 on: March 29, 2020, 09:42:26 PM »
I wish we could let small miss steps go on this BB.
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Re: Opening Arguments #TTTBE
« Reply #894 on: March 30, 2020, 07:10:12 AM »
I wish we could let small miss steps go on this BB.
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